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Icon 1 posted July 20, 2007 21:27      Profile for maximile   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I have two questions. One is bigger than the other. Here comes question one.

What can I drink instead of Coke? I've decided I drink too much Coke. I'm not sure why I do, so I'm not sure how best to find something that would replace it in my life. Does anyone have any suggestions for a drink that's nice and cold and easy and maybe fizzy and a bit more healthy than Coke? I already drink a lot of water and orange juice, but I think that I need something else as well. Maybe I should get back into tea.

And here comes the smaller, second question:

Can anyone here give me a bit of advice about database architecture and maybe implementing it in MySQL? I want to get listgames running on a database, and I think I need a bit of advice because I'm not getting too far with tutorials on the web. I was going to ask for help here, but I thought I'd better check if there's anyone here who's in a position to help first. If there is, I'll ask some more specific questions.

Thanks. [Smile]

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Diet coke [Razz]
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1) This is the finest soft drink in the world....ever.

2) errrr.... [Frown]

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1. Beer. Naked.

2. No.

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Can you be more specific on #2?
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1 - I am partial to ginger ale, but you mentioned "more healthy", so I'll rather suggest carbonated water (the unsugared type), to which you can add the artificial flavour made for bottled water. Personnaly, I find that they taste much too sweet, so I put less than they say, but it's up to you. Try a few, do some mixes, see what works for you. Or you could just add some lemon/lime juice (to taste) to add some flavour, without sugar. It's bitter, but very nice on hot days.

2 - I'm with Metasquare. I can do database modeling, but a good database is one where the needs were properly analysed in order to get a coherent set of tables and relationships. I take that you know how to program; so a starter would be to take a look at the data you will be using, see how you would manipulate them with variables, and see wich ones will mostly be treated together and which are mostly unrelated. (OOP is very nice for that; if you can create good objects, they can almost always be translated into good tables.) But I can't really tell more without knowlege of exactly what you want to do.

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Since you already drink orange juice and want something fizzy, here's a cocktail that I absolutely LOVE:

Fill a glass 3/4 full with orange juice (with pulp is best). Top off the rest with ginger ale or Sprite/7-UP. It's fun mixing in some flavored ginger ale. The raspberry stuff with a scoop of rainbow sherbet added to orange juice is especially refreshing.

It's enough spritzy to be fun, and enough orange juice to be healthy. I give it two [thumbsup] .

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I'm surprised nobody has suggested Kool-aid. You can mix flavors, use low/no Calorie sweeteners, adjust the amount sweetener to suit your tastes, adjust the amount of water added to make the flavors stronger/weaker and add carbonated water to make it fizzy. It's quite the customisable beverage option.

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Thank you guys very much for your replies. I am about to go shopping; I'll see what I can pick up. I've never seen Kool-aid sold here, but maybe there's an equivalent.

I've started another thread with the database questions; I hope it makes sense: http://www.geekculture.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=002356;p=1#000000

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If you can't find an equivalent, Kool-aid can be ordered online pretty cheaply. As a one time thing, I'd also be willing to ship a big pile of it to you to try.

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1. UMMM PEPSI ??? but more seriously what about ice tea?

2. No clue

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quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
If you can't find an equivalent, Kool-aid can be ordered online pretty cheaply. As a one time thing, I'd also be willing to ship a big pile of it to you to try.

Hey, thanks! I'll have a quick look round for it here first though; there are some shops I know that specialise in importing cool foods.
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Fruit spritzers will rock your uvula. They're... sorta... fruit, they're fizzy and they make people feel healthy. On the downside, they may empty your wallet.

Here's one: The Switch

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quote:
Originally posted by maximile:

What can I drink instead of Coke? I've decided I drink too much Coke. I'm not sure why I do, so I'm not sure how best to find something that would replace it in my life. Does anyone have any suggestions for a drink that's nice and cold and easy and maybe fizzy and a bit more healthy than Coke? I already drink a lot of water and orange juice, but I think that I need something else as well. Maybe I should get back into tea.

For something cold, my favorites are iced coffee (the NY Times had a good cold-brewed iced coffee recipe, I saved it if you want it and can't find it), carbonated water with a slice of lime, and unsweetened iced tea.

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More great advice. At the moment I'm surviving very nicely on orange juice and lemonade (ty Rhon) and the elderflower cordial Grummash linked to (ty Grum). I intend to try all the suggestions out over time.
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If you like a bit of bite you could give a diet "Indian Tonic Water" a go - and of course you can add pretty much anything you want to that - from the obvious Gin, through Lemon, Lime, Orange, Cranberry, Elderflower cordial, etc etc.

Don't go buying a big brand name Tonic (like "schhhh you know who") get a supermarket budget generic... Asda "Smart Price" or Co-op "Everyday Value" or some such. Personally I avoid the "touch of [whatever]" ones as they are usually way stronger than a touch and horridly sweetened with aspartame or the like. If you want a touch of something add it yourself... it is better and cheaper.

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I'm not an authority on carbonated beverages, as I currently drink Diet Mountain Dew (yikes!). [crazy]

However, I use a flavor powder in a 32oz. bottle of water. It's called Propel, and they sell the bottles of flavored water as well, but I don't know if they carry it in the UK. It's more pricey than KoolAid.

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Tonight, on my way to training, I stopped for some grocery shopping, and took a look. Kool-Aid has a lot of Calories compared to the other two main "add flavour to water" brands: 30 vs. 5-6 per 500 ml. Now, the two other brands are Nestle's and Crystal light; the first has 100 mg of sodium per portion, while the second has 0 to 20 depending on the flavour. So I ended up buying three different flavour of Crystal Light; lower Calories, lower salt, still nicer than water on a heavy DDR session. Yay! [Big Grin]

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No safe haven: Diet sodas linked with health risks

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quote:
He said people who drink soda, whether diet or sugar-sweetened, tend to have similar dietary patterns.

"On average, soda drinkers tend to eat more calories, consume more saturated fat and trans fat, eat less fiber, exercise less and be more sedentary," Vasan said in a telephone interview.

I think we might find that to be the crucial point - correlation is not proof of causation - one must beware creating what are in fact "inverse links". Particularly in studies like this it is important to be aware of the complexity of the interactions.

That is not to say that it's not an interesting fact. Actually it is a very interesting correlation that probably deserves a lot deeper examination...

Nice find fs.

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Well, regular soda is seen as an unhealthy thing. Diet soda sweeteners are surrounded by warnings and scare-mongering (look up "aspartame warnings" for a laugh at a level of logic usually reserved for conspiracy theories).

It shouldn't come as a big surprise that people who eat healthier drink less soda than people who eat unhealthily.

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