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boo
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Icon 1 posted November 06, 2006 16:23      Profile for boo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Most of the geeks I know are underweight, if anything, but for any chubby geeks out there wanting to take off some pounds, you might want to check out a program hosted by Dr.'s Mehmet Oz and Michael Roizen on the Discovery Health Channel. It's called, You on a Diet and will air again on the 17th and 19th of this month.

Their philosophy is remarkably like that of Dr. Mark Hayman, author of Ultrametabolism.

In a nutshell, the recommendations are:

* Steer clear of food containing hydrogenated oils.
* Steer clear of foods containing high fructose corn syrup.

(That alone is a trick. If you're a label reader like me, you'll know how hard it is to find foods with out one or the other. Many contain both. It's no wonder Americans are so fat.)

* Avoid packaged foods that contain more than 4 grams of sugars or 4 grams of fats per serving.

* Walk 10,000 or more steps per day.

* Do a total of 60 minutes per week of strength training. According to them, this doesn't have to be lifting weights, you can use the weight of your own body to do the simple exercises. You can also break it into 3 - 20 minute segments.

Another point they advocate is to be very routine in your eating habits, having the same things for breakfast and lunch each day. The reasoning is that you will think less about food and that variety spawns overindulgence.

Being one of those people who loves to work out and does so far more than they suggest, their requirements seem quite reasonable, even for those not very interested in exercise. Oh, and of course, drink water.

http://health.discovery.com/

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Sad thing is that the one day i decided to see what was on Oprah that dr. oz is the dude they had on explaining all the medical jumbo.

I'n my opinion i say screw it all. I'm not overweight as a matter of fact i'm more underweight then anything. But if you are going tell us exactly what we need to eat then whats the point in eating. As long as you don't eat more then once or twice a week at a fast food resteraunt and as long as your diet dosn't consist mostly of sugar you should be fine.

Every week the medical community comes out with a new study showing eating so much of a food is going to benefit you in such a way that it will change your life. But the truth is that you can be the person who does exactly what the medical community tells you to do and die at the age of 30 or you could live to be a 100. But you could also be the guy who doesn't follow the medical community's advice and still live to be a 100 or he could be dead at 30.

Everyone's different and i find this stuff just bs.

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quote:
Originally posted by boo:

Another point they advocate is to be very routine in your eating habits, having the same things for breakfast and lunch each day. The reasoning is that you will think less about food and that variety spawns overindulgence.

That is probably the worst recommendation I've ever heard for a healthy diet. I don't know about you but if I have the same thing for dinner a few nights in a row I think of nothing but food and other things I could be eating instead of this thing I'm completely sick of. It's having too many things in front of you at once that make you go nuts and overeat, not eating a variety of foods over the week. You're likely to become deficient in some key nutrients if you stick to the same stuff everyday too.

The rest of the advice you posted though is quite sound and great for anyone to do. I know what you mean about avoiding HFCS and hydrogenated oil. I can hardly find something as simple as a loaf of bread without either of them. And one thing I would add; avoid packaged food altogether if you can. Making your own food from fresh ingredients is a lot more fun and a lot more healthful.

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What Peebs said.

Eating a variety of foods is especially important for those of us who've ventured off the beaten path diet-wise. I'm a vegetarian, and if I don't work to keep variety in my diet I'm liable to end up with any number of deficiencies, be it iron, protein, or B vitamins. I could take supplements, but experimenting with new recipes is more fun and I really like vegetables. In fact, I'm craving vegetables right now...

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Right, we all look like Gomer Pyle, our diet consists of nothing but Bud Light and pizza, and all we do is sit on the couch and watch ESPN 24/7 [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
In fact, I'm craving vegetables right now...

Me too. The Glacier Brewing Company makes a true stout called Slurry Bomber - Excellent and totally vegetarian, MMMMmmmmmmmm!

Bud Light? Ewwwwwwwwww...yuk.

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quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
Excellent and totally vegetarian, MMMMmmmmmmmm!

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't know of any alcoholic beverage that's made using animals or their byproducts, so aren't all alcoholic beverages vegetarian? (Well, except for tequila. Although I wonder if vegetarians can drink tequila if they just don't eat the worm?)

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quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't know of any alcoholic beverage that's made using animals or their byproducts, so aren't all alcoholic beverages vegetarian?

Sorry Rhonnie, I know you (and many other GCers) would probably have been happier living in ignorance of this, but the geek in me cannot resist the urge to tell you of .... Kumyss

quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
Bud Light? Ewwwwwwwwww...yuk.

The US makers of Budweiser recently lost a European court case, they're not allowed to call their product 'Budweiser' in Europe, (real Budweiser comes from the Czech republic) but they can still use the 'Bud' trademark.

Still no word on why they're allowed to call it 'beer'.

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quote:
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't know of any alcoholic beverage that's made using animals or their byproducts, so aren't all alcoholic beverages vegetarian?
Lots of wines use insinglass (made of fish) to remove cloudiness, though most of the vegetarians I know ignore this, because it is very hard to find certified vegetarian wine.
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Just a thought, but if the advice about being routine in your eating habits means having regular proper meals at specific times, rather than grazing throughout the day, he may have a point, as its is easier to control the amount you eat that way. I completely accept the point that overly restrictive diets drive you mad while you are on them, and lead almost inevitably to serious bingeing after you quit.

I just love food, both making and eating it (and perhaps lack the willpower!), so find diets do not tend to work well for me, but if I do enough physical work during the day, the mechanism that controls my appetite tends to work better.

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Wow, a topic good enough to make me unlurk [Wink] (Hi to everyone who knows me)

But then I'm a slightly overweight geek who knows his beer. Finings used to clarify cask ales and other products are generally not vegetarian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finings

Edit: sorry, Littlefish pointed this out already! d'oh!

I'm sure the Vegetarian Society / Vegan Society web pages will list some if not all those which are produced without animal by-products

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quote:
Originally posted by Allan:
Wow, a topic good enough to make me unlurk [Wink] (Hi to everyone who knows me)

But then I'm a slightly overweight geek who knows his beer.

Hi Allan. It has been a while.

If you checked the link I posted, you might take a glance at the Dunkel Hefeweisen. OMG! I'd never sampled a dark Hefeweisen before. Wonderful! Unfortunately I cannot enjoy it as a beverage due to some issues with wheat, but the taste and body and mouthfeel are tremendous.

(From one beer lover to another. Not Stroh's)

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quote:
Originally posted by boo:
you might want to check out a program hosted by Dr.'s Mehmet Oz and Michael Roizen on the Discovery Health Channel.

Seriously boo, who's paying you? Seems like you do a good deal of advertising on this board. (Napster, Discovery Health, questions that seem like advertising group profiling all over the Guys forum)...that, coupled with the fact that I've never seen a post from you with any substance makes me wonder.

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quote:
originally posted by littlefish:
Lots of wines use insinglass (made of fish) to remove cloudiness, though most of the vegetarians I know ignore this, because it is very hard to find certified vegetarian wine.

I am vegetarian, and I agree that lots of veggies do ignore the isinglass issue, but I'm not sure that it is because veggie/vegan wines are hard to find.

I think the real reasons are:

1) Plenty of people are too lazy to make a small detour on the way home from their usual supermarket and call in at the local tree-huggers store. An example of a very high-quality tree-huggers store in my area is Unicorn and I would recommend it highly to any GCers who find themselves in that area and in the mood for a bit of ethical shopping.

2) Plenty of people are too snobby or self-concious to turn up at a dinner party with a bottle of wine from the Co-op. In spite of the fact that most veggies know that the Co-op is your best bet for veggie booze of all descriptions.

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quote:
Originally posted by Allan:
Wow, a topic good enough to make me unlurk [Wink] (Hi to everyone who knows me)

But then I'm a slightly overweight geek who knows his beer. Finings used to clarify cask ales and other products are generally not vegetarian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finings

Edit: sorry, Littlefish pointed this out already! d'oh!

I'm sure the Vegetarian Society / Vegan Society web pages will list some if not all those which are produced without animal by-products

I had no idea that animal by products wher added to beer. Not that I am a vegitarian.

If you want to make sure there are no animal by-products in your beer, I am quite partial to beers brewed under the Reinheitsgebot (Bavarian purity laws). The only allowed ingredients are water hops and Barley. (yeast also). I like this unfiltered. This is really liquid bread to fill ones belly.

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quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
quote:
Originally posted by boo:

Another point they advocate is to be very routine in your eating habits, having the same things for breakfast and lunch each day. The reasoning is that you will think less about food and that variety spawns overindulgence.

That is probably the worst recommendation I've ever heard for a healthy diet. I don't know about you but if I have the same thing for dinner a few nights in a row I think of nothing but food and other things I could be eating instead of this thing I'm completely sick of. It's having too many things in front of you at once that make you go nuts and overeat, not eating a variety of foods over the week. You're likely to become deficient in some key nutrients if you stick to the same stuff everyday too.


That's a good point. I can't specifically remember if they suggested taking a mulitivitamin, but that would seem prudent.

I think their reasoning was to pick something you like a lot (they used cheerios and steel cut oatmeal .. whatever that is, as examples) and just eat that most of the time for breakfast. Same for lunch, having essentially the same thing every day. Dinner is where you get your variety. It seemed to me what they were suggesting was that if someone takes the thinking out of it, rather than wonder, do I have an egg McMuffin, do I eat pancakes, should I toast some eggo's, what about bacon and eggs .. etc. etc. it will be easier for them to make consistently healthy choices. And, be less tempted by bad choices.

It's sort of like the eat to live rather than live to eat approach, which I guess is a trap some overweight people fall in to. The adovate just getting your cheerio's, eating them and getting on with your life. Spending too much time thinking about it might send some people off track.

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Yes boo it's nice to hear your opinion but.....

Do you work for guerilla pr ?

Are you doing this as part of your paid employment?

Just answer the questions sweetie, a simple yes or no will do.

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quote:
Originally posted by boo:
. . . cheerio's . . .

AAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH! GROCER'S APO'STROPHE!
[Mad]

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quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
Just answer the questions sweetie, a simple yes or no will do.

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quote:
Originally posted by Black Widow:
quote:
Originally posted by boo:
. . . cheerio's . . .

AAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH! GROCER'S APO'STROPHE!
[Mad]

[Big Grin]

*hands BW a prozac*

I'll go edit the post, just for you.

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quote:
Originally posted by boo:
*hands BW a prozac*

Prozac? I think you mean Valium, but I think the best treatment we could give our beloved Widow is for you to GTFO. [Big Grin]
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Classy. [thumbsup]
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quote:
Originally posted by Demosthenes:
quote:
Originally posted by boo:
*hands BW a prozac*

Prozac? I think you mean Valium, but I think the best treatment we could give our beloved Widow is for you to GTFO. [Big Grin]
Thanks Demosthenes. [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by boo:
Classy.

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quote:
Originally posted by boo:
Classy. [thumbsup]

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