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CommanderShroom
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Icon 1 posted August 10, 2006 16:31      Profile for CommanderShroom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I thought that I should post a link to a terror alert meter.

Here it is.

And today's current level is...

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I am not sure why they ever bothered with green and blue. What are they for, making it "futureproof"?

"Green, blue: These values are reserved for future expansion". Yeah right...

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These values reserved for POTUS v0.44
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heh :)
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We're getting closer and closer to the days of flying n3kk1d...

That's an altogether horrific and pleasant thought mixed together.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
We're getting closer and closer to the days of flying n3kk1d...

That's an altogether horrific and pleasant thought mixed together.

Someone on LJ already proposed that. I usually bring a bottle of water with me on flights as I get extremely dehydrated. Since I will be on a 13 hour flight tonight, I'm considering bringing an empty bottle and asking one of the stewards/esses to fill it up for me. So retarded.

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I usually bring a partial change of clothes and a small toiletry kit with me in my carry-on. For domestic flights it's so I'm not screwed if my luggage gets lost, I get stranded, or I end up sleeping on the floor in the terminal. For international flights it's so I can freshen up a bit. I always feel like a zombie after an overnight flight, getting at least a little bit cleaned up makes me feel better and probably makes life more pleasant for whoever's sitting next to me on the next leg of the journey (a snoring American is better than a smelly, snoring American [Razz] ). But now I can't carry on my toothpaste. And I'm flying to Belgrade by way of London next month. I'm going to show up in Serbia with bad breath! [Frown]

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What kind of a war is this?

Hopefully it will get back to normal fairly quickly.

EDIT: Also just found this pic.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
We're getting closer and closer to the days of flying n3kk1d...

That's an altogether horrific and pleasant thought mixed together.

If you had to fly naked the terrorists would would just implant bombs inside themselves. You have to make people not want to blow you up. (i.e. don't kill thier relatives) We are to big. There will always be a vulnerability that can be exploited. The "flying naked"is not so much to protect us from the terrorists as it is to protect us from our own fears. Just like the rest of the laws against terrorists.

Anyways hopefully this will be a boon to the Eurotunnel as it has hit some hard times. With security nowdays it is much faster to take a train to London.

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I'm frequently a fan of actually stopping at a supermarket, drug store, or hotel shop and purchasing travel sizes at my destination. Saves worrying if they are going to burst in transit or leak or whatever. I don't imagine that this is going to carry on for very long, especially with items like toothpaste and deoderant being banned. I imagine those things will be allowed in carry ons again shortly since a lot of people try to avoid checking luggage, especially on short trips. (I mean, I managed to go to Sweden for 3 weeks without having to check a bag...)

I do think the idea of not being able to buy the stuff on the other side of the security checkpoint and take it on the plane is a bit idiotic though.

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fs_______ You're right, this is only a "short-term fix" for the problem, I quoted that from an interview I caught on BBC news 24, from an aeronautical security specialist, he also said "there are ways of detecting such explosives (i.e liquid bombs) but these measures are far to expensive, and the machinary used to detect such substances is to large for practical use. We must instead use this, *points to head* in order to combat these attacks, simply using common sense, and using gut instinct is far more powerfull than any means of detection equiptment"

I feel that this is a very fair, and valid point, and who cares if you insult a few people in the process, at least the general consensus will be that England id becoming more vigilant.

I also heard a speech by Bush yesterday, claiming this to be linked up with al qaeda, british correspondents also note that on the scale of which these attacks were being planned, that alone would leave us to believe al qaeda would be involed also.

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Ashitaka: Yes, I'm aware of the stupidity of the argument - it's just one that keeps coming up...

Personally, I'm rather miffed at all this - it's utter nonsense, and it's going to seriously suck. I'm not fond of airplane food, and I usually like to take something with me. Bloody 'ell - last time I flew out of Heathrow, I had a sandwich and something to drink...and almost even brought coffee on the plane. (Oh no! W_M_Caffeination) I think I had to check my main luggage, as their weight limit is quite low (and I had some kind of heavy books inside) - but I still had toothpaste and shampoo in my suitcase. If I had to throw that out, I'd be quite annoyed. (I'll be damned if I'm going to throw out an 80% full tube because of 'security' - that's wasteful, and I'd want a credit.)

The ________s have already won...look at the stupidity of what we have to go through today...

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:

The ________s have already won...look at the stupidity of what we have to go through today...

Bingo.
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I think it's fair to ban those things, seeing as how they barely cost anything to replace. If they didn't find those explosives people would be dead, right? I don't think it's as much of a big deal as people are making it out to seem. All they ask is not to bring drugs, sharp objects, liquids, and to check if electronics work as they should.

As for brushing your teeth during long flights/waiting times, they have those disposable things you can put on your finger to freshen up. No reason to take those away.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Ashitaka: Yes, I'm aware of the stupidity of the argument - it's just one that keeps coming up...

Personally, I'm rather miffed at all this - it's utter nonsense, and it's going to seriously suck. I'm not fond of airplane food, and I usually like to take something with me. Bloody 'ell - last time I flew out of Heathrow, I had a sandwich and something to drink...and almost even brought coffee on the plane. (Oh no! W_M_Caffeination) I think I had to check my main luggage, as their weight limit is quite low (and I had some kind of heavy books inside) - but I still had toothpaste and shampoo in my suitcase. If I had to throw that out, I'd be quite annoyed. (I'll be damned if I'm going to throw out an 80% full tube because of 'security' - that's wasteful, and I'd want a credit.)

The ________s have already won...look at the stupidity of what we have to go through today...

The last time I flew form Chicago to Zurich I brought an entire racked of ribs with me bought the day before at smokey joes. These flights are just becoming worse and worse. With the exception of transcontinental flights, there are other options for customers to take. The next time I go to England, I'll take the TGV or the city night line. Sure it's a few more hours but I think that it is coming to a point where it's not worth the hassle of flying anymore. People will say , "well then YOU let the terrorists win." I tell them, it's not the terrorists keeping me off these planes.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mel:
I think it's fair to ban those things, seeing as how they barely cost anything to replace. If they didn't find those explosives people would be dead, right? I don't think it's as much of a big deal as people are making it out to seem. All they ask is not to bring drugs, sharp objects, liquids, and to check if electronics work as they should.

As for brushing your teeth during long flights/waiting times, they have those disposable things you can put on your finger to freshen up. No reason to take those away.

Bollocks!
Oh, and baaaaahhhhh....

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I with Dman, the point is mel, by excepting such actions we are being defeated by the terrorists. Why should we give up what should be there for British/American citizens, just because a load of unstable muslims want to blow stuff up?

Its a very defeatist attitude you have adopted.

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Not for nothing 'maybe.logic,' but all of us have home-grown-nutjobs as well, ya know. Let's not single out a single group of people...it's funny how we seem to forget.

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It won't stop anyone who's determined. Do you honestly think a screening agent would say "you cannot bring your colostomy bag on the airplane with you?"

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quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
It won't stop anyone who's determined. Do you honestly think a screening agent would say "you cannot bring your colostomy bag on the airplane with you?"

What does the screening agent care. He doesn't have to sit next to this person on a 13 hour flight.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Not for nothing 'maybe.logic,' but all of us have home-grown-nutjobs as well, ya know. Let's not single out a single group of people...it's funny how we seem to forget.

Granted, I was'nt meaning to be rude, the fact of the matter is, it's not raving englishmen/americans blowing up our planes, it the muslims.
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Yes, but our natives have taken care of buildings and subways/buses...

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quote:
Originally posted by maybe.logic:
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Not for nothing 'maybe.logic,' but all of us have home-grown-nutjobs as well, ya know. Let's not single out a single group of people...it's funny how we seem to forget.

Granted, I was'nt meaning to be rude, the fact of the matter is, it's not raving englishmen/americans blowing up our planes, it the muslims.
I think the reference is to the oklahoma city bombers, or the IRA. It is not just these fanatical muslims.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Yes, but our natives have taken care of buildings and subways/buses...

And shooting random people. And mailing out eltters full of anthrax. And blowing up abortion clinics. And blowing up the Olympic Village. And going nuts and shooting up schools and workplaces...

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The new security measures wouldn't be bad if they provided better food on airplanes. Whenever i go flying these days i basically get sick from just the smell of the food and usually have to resort to sniffing my tic tacs. Also if they provided better services and got you through onto your plane quicker it wouldn't be so bad either. The capuchino's (spelling??) at the airport are crap and are made by people who were rejected by wal-mart and Macdonalds.

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