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schnurren
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What do you all think about the situation with Iran?
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Don't get them started. [Roll Eyes] Puhleeese!
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Iwalked.

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I don't know what I was thinking... it seemed like a good idea at the time.

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Ibiked.

Sorry gg. Couldn't resist.

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They think that nuclear weapons will make them invincible.

They're wrong.

Still, I would like to see someone do something about it before a place ends up getting nuked.

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Well, Iran is situated between Iraq to the West, and Afghanistan to the East. Afghanistan is a notoriously difficult country to occupy, as many would be conquerors have discovered to their cost.

Which means .....

<drum roll>......

Iran is between Iraq and a hard place.

/coat

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Ibiked.

Shouldn't that be: "Icrashed"? [Razz]

(Glad to see you're well enough to keep posting)

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I'm lazy, so Idrove.
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Well, I have another bike. I've been using it.

I only broke my nose. The rest of me still works just fine. [Razz]

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And Iran, Iran so far away.
I just ran, Iran all night and day.
I couldn’t get away.

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TFD______________________Summed it up.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Well, Iran is situated between Iraq to the West, and Afghanistan to the East. Afghanistan is a notoriously difficult country to occupy, as many would be conquerors have discovered to their cost.

Which means .....

<drum roll>......

Iran is between Iraq and a hard place.

/coat

*rimshot*
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"He who has the bigger gun wins."

That is how I see Iran viewing it and that is how I see many other countries viewing it.

As near as I can tell, the one who CURRENTLY has the bigger gun will almost always try to prevent the others from getting the same gun. If others already have it both will play nice on the surface but still do what they can to weaken the other in any way that they can.

At the end of the day, it's all about who wins the fist fight. Everything else after that is just so much banter.

Best,

Danimal

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I heard a good anology of Iran's nuclear capabilities a few days ago and it is really acurate.

Know that Iran doesn't neccessarily have Nuclear Weapons, just the ability. They have brought some 20,000 centrifuges online and would need another 200,000 in order to even begin considering making weapons.

What Iran has done is comparable to that of the Wright brothers at Saddie Hawkins. They have demonstrated an ability, but have yet to cross the ocean.

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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
I'm lazy, so Idrove.

I'm lazier, so Isatathome.

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*cough* double standards *cough*

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quote:
Originally posted by Jace Raven:
I heard a good anology of Iran's nuclear capabilities a few days ago and it is really acurate.

Know that Iran doesn't neccessarily have Nuclear Weapons, just the ability. They have brought some 20,000 centrifuges online and would need another 200,000 in order to even begin considering making weapons.

What Iran has done is comparable to that of the Wright brothers at Saddie Hawkins. They have demonstrated an ability, but have yet to cross the ocean.

I like the analagy. Is it still as interesting when one digs into the analogy a bit deeper?

It was between 1900 and 1903 that the Wright Brothers began getting off of the ground.

The first use of airpower in war was just 8 years later in the Italo-Turkish war of 1911-1912.

Lindberghs flight was just 15 years after the end of that war.

Best,

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quote:
Originally posted by Metasquares:
They think that nuclear weapons will make them invincible.

They're wrong.

Still, I would like to see someone do something about it before a place ends up getting nuked.

Don't count on President Milquetoast...he seems to be fairly stymied these days, even with a Congressional majority to work with. (And if the Donks grab control of one or both houses in November, it'll be even worse...because they'll then have subpoena power, and they'll use it to "investigate" the Bush Administration from hell to breakfast. Result: pretty much complete paralysis on all sides.)

The Europeans are too busy kissing Muslim ass to do anything about Iran. Neither Russia nor China will do anything, either. Israel will surely stand up for herself, but that won't make a lot of difference, seeing as how the first indication that Iran actually has the Bomb is likely to be a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv.

Basically, I'm not hopeful this will end well. The only thing that will stop the Mad Mullahs would be a good, hard ass-kicking...but there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to deliver it.

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and Iran, Iran so far awayyyyyyy
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You've got to look on the bright side: In 5 to 10 years we'll have "world peace."

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The Europeans are too busy kissing Muslim ass to do anything about Iran. Neither Russia nor China will do anything, either.

Notice all the AK-47's and Soviet-style armored vehicles in the Mideast? Russia and China are "allies" to them. Notice who bought oil in violation of UN sanctions against Iraq? Of course they were merely getting payment for the weapons they sold.

Why would a Nuclear Islamic Totalitarian state not stand up to the US when it has "friends" like Russia and China?

Of course, people sometimes forget that Russia and China have been willing to kill millions of their own people as long as it suits their purpose. (Hint: They won't be saving people when war breaks out ... "allies" or otherwise.)

One or two nukes against US soil should be enough to get the US to "return the favor" (and somebody better hope that US alternative fuels are still limited). Here's a sample conversation once the US "returns the favor":
quote:
China: Hello?
Nuclear Oil State: We are allies against the Americans. Now, you can use your nuclear weapons to annihilate them!
China: Oh? I am certain your two bombs have crushed them already.
Nuclear Oil State: The Americans have destroyed two dozen of our cities with their missiles! You need our oil!
China: They used nuclear weapons on the oil wells?
Nuclear Oil State: Uh... No.... The oil wells are far outside of the cities...
China: <click>

Nuclear Oil State: Hello! Russia! We are allies against the Americans. Now, you can use your nuclear weapons to annihilate them!
Russia: Oh, we would love to, but we have no nukes. We only have tanks and jets and troops. We will send all of them to defend you. They should arrive in a month.
Nuclear Oil State: A MONTH?!!! WE'LL ALL BE DEAD!!!
Russia: Beggars can't be choosers.... <click>

It does look rather bad for the US, but "someone" will probably fare worse. Oh, and don't count on Russia and China to share with the "peaceful countries" of the world.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jace Raven:
I heard a good anology of Iran's nuclear capabilities a few days ago and it is really acurate.

Know that Iran doesn't neccessarily have Nuclear Weapons, just the ability. They have brought some 20,000 centrifuges online and would need another 200,000 in order to even begin considering making weapons.

What Iran has done is comparable to that of the Wright brothers at Saddie Hawkins. They have demonstrated an ability, but have yet to cross the ocean.

Where did you here this information about the 20,000 and 200,000 centrifuges. I am not contradicting you, I just havn't heard that before. What time periods are they talking about with these centrifuges. If you need 200,000 centifuges, couldn't you just do the same task with 20,000 but take 100(x) time instead of x time? if it takes 200,000 cetrifuges a year to do thier work then yea, it's a legitimate point.


200,000 cetrifuges, 20,000 cetrifuges even seems like an exageration. My university had ten and it took up an entire room. Did the US require this many to make thier weapons. how big are these centrifuges. It seems to me you should be able to make a really big cetrifuge to do the work of 100, or 500 if you need so much material seperated.

I am not even sure of the step in refining nuclear fuel that require centrifuges. Does anyone know about this process?

Edit After wiki-ing Uranium enrichment I learned the centrifuges I speak of and the ones used to enrich uranium are much different.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
I am not even sure of the step in refining nuclear fuel that require centrifuges. Does anyone know about this process?

AFAIK, and I am not a nuclear scientist, so I could very easily be wrong, you enrich uranium by separating the lighter, fissile U-235 from the heavier U-238. The easiest way to do that would be to spin the ore in a centrifuge until the U-235 was concentrated, and then throw the other stuff away (or, in the case of the US, turn it into ammunition).

At least, that's my understanding of it. Your mileage may vary. [Smile]

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From CNN:

quote:
Experts say it would take Iran two decades to produce enough highly enriched uranium for one bomb from its current 164 centrifuges. But Iran says it will to install 3,000 centrifuges, which could make enough material for a warhead in one year.

Iranian officials say the Natanz enrichment plant has a capacity for 54,000 centrifuges.



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quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
From CNN:

Nothing says reputable source like CNN.
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Reza Aslan, author of No God But God has speculated that Iran is years from developing any kind of threatening nuclear technology.

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