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TMBWITW,PB

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Icon 11 posted March 21, 2005 12:00      Profile for TMBWITW,PB     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
...then I still haven't figured out how to get into first gear. [crazy]

My brother (finally!) got a job and needs a car so we shifted them all down the line. Mom bought herself a new Dodge Dakota, I got her 2000 Neon and Jeremy got the 1994 Escort. I really like the Neon; it's got a 4 CD changer and a moonroof. (BTW, what on earth is the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?) One major difference between my new car and the old one is that the Escort was an automatic transmission while the Neon is a manual transmission. I've never driven a stick shift before so driving to the DMV was *ahem* interesting. [Razz] I think I'm getting the hang of it now. I'm hardly bucking when I start moving anymore, erm, except on hills. [blush]

I also like the Neon because it's got a passenger airbag as well as a driver's airbag, and it has child seat anchors in back. I think it will be a nice family car for us.

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Congrats on the new car. w00t!

The difference from a moonroof and a sunroof (as it was explained to me) is a moon roof only opens in the back to vent and a sun roof actually moves completely out of the way.

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quote:
Originally posted by CommanderShroom:
Congrats on the new car. w00t!

The difference from a moonroof and a sunroof (as it was explained to me) is a moon roof only opens in the back to vent and a sun roof actually moves completely out of the way.

A moon roof is a roof that is made of tinted glass that lets light in even when its closed.

Sunroofs are those old metal roofs that cars used to have back in the day, that you can move to let sun in, but when closed, you can't see through it, because it's metal.

Congrats on the new car, peebs. Fortunately, driving standard transmission is like riding a bike, once you've got the hang of it, you'll never forget.

I had to learn the hard way about starting on a hill shortly after I learned how to drive standard. I was on a pretty steep hill at a red light in my ex-roommate's saturn. A cop stopped behind me, RIGHT on my bumper.. if I rolled back, I'd have hit him.

In those situations, pull the parking brake, start to accelerate and release the clutch as if you're taking off, and as soon as you feel the car attempting to pull, release the parking brake, and voila, you don't roll back!

My current car has a 6-speed, and I'll never buy an automatic as long as my left foot is still in good working order again. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
A moon roof is a roof that is made of tinted glass that lets light in even when its closed.

Sunroofs are those old metal roofs that cars used to have back in the day, that you can move to let sun in, but when closed, you can't see through it, because it's metal.

I was never too sure about that. Thanks for the clarification.

The greatest thing about manual shifts are the burn-outs. Nothing like revving up and dropping the clutch. When the kids are somewhere other than in the car, that is.

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Cobblers to the handbrake thing

Learn to hold the car on the clutch - gentle revs (just over tickover) 1st gear and a tiny amount of clutch grab) of course it's pretty flat here, the above isn't advised on steep gradients... or for extended periods or you'll fsck the clutch plates.

Actually forget the above and use the handbrake like your instructor told you unless you feel confident using clutch slip...

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Use the handbrake on hills until you've got a feel for it. Especially if someone is behind you...

I learned to drive stick in Seattle. It was a while before I dared driving downtown and a while longer than that before I was willing to start on First Hill without my handbrake.

Stick is more fun. That's why I refused to even look at automatics when I was car-shopping last summer.

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'Stick', as you say, is also a lot easier on the old petroleum (automatic transmissions tend to linger in lower gear). Also - aren't automatic cars just too boring to drive?

Manual gearboxes are more... errrmm... conducive to creative driving. But there are drawbacks. I remember all those years ago during my driving lessons - my instructor took me out onto a nasty dual-carriageway around Southampton - on exit I went to change down, but mistook first for third. Luckily the car was dual-control, and she was aware of what I was doing, otherwise the engine would have gone into orbit. Now that would have been fun to see. [Smile]

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Yea, driving automatic is dreadfully boring once you've mastered standard transmissions.

And if you've got a car that has some balls, you can have some fun with it, and take it out on back roads and give 'er. It feels good.

When I was originally going to buy my car (the 2003 model), before I found out how prohibitive insurance was, I took it out on a back road near the dealership. Because I was a young kid, they had the sales woman come along with me. I came to a complete stop and told her to hold on, I was gonna see what the car could do. She was like, "alright, give 'er." I took off like a bat out of hell (I didn't squeal the tires though, I actually tried to use traction to my advantage)... I gunned it until I was up to about 120km/h (limit was 80km/h). It got me there pretty damned quickly, and it held the road quite nicely.

It was then that I fell in love with my car [hearts] . Unfortunately, at the time, insurance would have been $600/mo for me, so I waited it out for a year, and bought it last September (as some of you may recall.) Insurance is $500/mo for me right now (painful), but my last payment on this policy comes out April 10th, and when I renew, it goes down to $200/mo (which is damned good for a 22 year old male driving what's technically classified as a sports car).

Anyway, back to the point.. [Smile] Driving automatic will bore you once you've mastered standard.

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Icon 1 posted March 22, 2005 08:50      Profile for TMBWITW,PB     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
- on exit I went to change down, but mistook first for third.

Fortunately I haven't done that while downshifting yet, but there have been a few times on the road when I wanted to go into third gear and accidentally put it into fifth. The sad part is it took me a long time to figure out what the problem was. [Roll Eyes]

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Icon 1 posted March 22, 2005 08:52      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
- on exit I went to change down, but mistook first for third.

Fortunately I haven't done that while downshifting yet, but there have been a few times on the road when I wanted to go into third gear and accidentally put it into fifth. The sad part is it took me a long time to figure out what the problem was. [Roll Eyes]
hehe.. better to err two gears too high than two gears too low. Especially 1st, since it has such a HUGE gear ratio to make the car go from a stop...
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I remember reading somewhere (although I can not remember where, maybe someone can help me) "It was not just the normal kind of surprised, more like the 'when you accidentally change down from fifth to first and your engine jumps out of your bonnet' kind of surprised" or words to that effect.

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Douglas Adams.

There was once a little Honda Accord my parents let me use. One day I accidentally started it in thrid...going up a hill. And the car did it. I was wondering why it was having such a hard time with it, and then I started wondering why the engine wasn't racing as I passed 15 mph. So I looked down at the stick, saw where it was, and developed an even deeper appreciation for my engine. There's no way I could get away with a mistake like that in my little Subaru. It just doesn't have the pep.

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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Insurance is $500/mo for me right now (painful), but my last payment on this policy comes out April 10th, and when I renew, it goes down to $200/mo (which is damned good for a 22 year old male driving what's technically classified as a sports car)

Dude, that is sick! Back in the day (early 90's) I was living in TO and driving a 5.0 litre Mustang (no, I didn't have a mullet) I paid a company (Co-operators) out in Guelph for my insurance, like 1100/year.

500/month is almost to the point of being cheaper to drive without insurance.

Currently, I insure with Meloche Monnex and pay 600/year for 2 vehicles.

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Capt'n Vic that is not back in the day, now back in 1962 I learned to drive in a Pontiac Catalina with a 389 with Tri-Power (three Dueces) and a manual transmission, now that car could sh&t and git, good thing my dad had ordered Positraction or I would never have been able to get that sucker off the line with out wheel spin

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Um, aren't we talking about car insurance?

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I found the best way to learn stick is to not pay so much attention to it. the more I thought about going into first, the better chance I had at screwing it up. I'm not a fan of the stick...too much at one time! I'm a bad enough driver in an automatic car! lol
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quote:
Originally posted by Mel:
I found the best way to learn stick is to not pay so much attention to it. the more I thought about going into first, the better chance I had at screwing it up. I'm not a fan of the stick...too much at one time!

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I learned stick the fun way... Was stranded with nothing but a manual transmission car, because family had taken the van. So, I hopped in and went for a ride, hehe. I actually only stalled once.. backing out of the garage. Well, technically, I stalled like 12 times, but, it was all in a row trying to get out of the drive way [Razz]

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I was taught how to drive manual transmission by my ex-roommate. He's a diesel mechanic, and owned a crappy Saturn with a 5-speed in it. We made an agreement... he taught me how to drive his car, I taught him Linux...

I've had my own manual transmission car for over 3 years now. He still bugs me on MSN about Linux networking. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
My new car has a limited slip differential, meaning burn outs are a little harder to pull off, since the car actually tries to hold the road if one wheel starts burning out.

I was taught how to drive manual transmission by my ex-roommate. He's a diesel mechanic, and owned a crappy Saturn with a 5-speed in it. We made an agreement... he taught me how to drive his car, I taught him Linux...

I've had my own manual transmission car for over 3 years now. He still bugs me on MSN about Linux networking. [Big Grin]


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quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
Um, aren't we talking about car insurance?

Not really, but I'll just go ahead and make you people jealous by saying that I pay a whopping $440/year on my insurance and I'm UNDER 25. [Razz]

Granted, I also drive a 23 year-old putt-putt with a four hamster-power engine but hey, it runs. I just gotta fill it up with corn and sunflower seeds every now and then. [Big Grin]

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I have a stick. I don't know about filling it with corn and sunflower seeds. More like corn liquor.

"Yes sir, those 10 gallons of moonshine are fuel."

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