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GMx

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Icon 9 posted September 16, 2004 04:14      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Johnny Ramone of the Ramones has died at age 55.

My first contact with punk rock was through the Ramones. The year was 1978. I found a copy of their first album on 8-track in the bargain bin. One look at the titles and I knew I was going to like it. Blitzkrieg Bop, Beat On The Brat and the rest. It wasn't until about ten years later that I got to see them play live.

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It's funny I used to hate the Ramones. All I ever heard was "Pet Cemetary." When I got a bit older I met a guy that turned me on to things like "I Won't Let It Happen" and it changed my perspective on the band.

After that I began to really listen to them. Unfortunately I never had a chance to see them live. But it is a dark day for punk. Johnny will be missed here.

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Icon 1 posted September 16, 2004 05:40      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Being one of the founding fathers of punk, that sucks. And he wasn't very old, either.
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According to the local news today one of the Ramones big hits was "London Calling" [Roll Eyes]
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Ramones were the suckiest band ever. They were rich kids who jumped on the "punk" bandwagon but hey dumbass punk was about poor kids who were angry...
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Icon 1 posted September 16, 2004 11:18      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Nice of you to come out from under your bridge to post about somebody dying, "Genius." You know as much about punk as you do about Macs. [Razz]
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Icon 1 posted September 16, 2004 11:56      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I'm sorry for being distasteful, but I have to ask.

Before he passed away, to ease the pain, was there any chance he was sedated?

And were his 4 last words by chance, "eh! oh! Let's go!"

*cough*

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I'm Affected by such a heartless post

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quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Nice of you to come out from under your bridge to post about somebody dying, "Genius." You know as much about punk as you do about Macs. [Razz]

He probably thinks Avril Lavigne is the real deal in punk [Wink]

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CSK: its a Complicated issue [Wink]

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Icon 1 posted September 16, 2004 17:48      Profile for Aves Corax     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by SpikeSpiegel:
CSK: its a Complicated issue [Wink]

Well so much for my happy ending.

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i thought it would be a sure thing because of that nice Sk8r Boi

edit: i cant believe i wasted my 3000th post on that [tired]

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Dude, that is weak.

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I'm sure he's thinking Why should I care?
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quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Nice of you to come out from under your bridge to post about somebody dying, "Genius." You know as much about punk as you do about Macs. [Razz]

Also known as "a lot".

(You think I don't know what I'm talking about???)

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quote:
Originally posted by MacGenius:
quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Nice of you to come out from under your bridge to post about somebody dying, "Genius." You know as much about punk as you do about Macs. [Razz]

Also known as "a lot".

(You think I don't know what I'm talking about???)

You could say that, but I'd much rather you jump of the bridge you crawled out from underneath.

If the Ramones just jumped on the bandwagon, then who was driving it? If you even try to answer that I'm going to claw your eyeballs out.

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Icon 1 posted September 17, 2004 12:49      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by MacGenius:
Also known as "a lot".

(You think I don't know what I'm talking about???)

I know you don't know what you're talking about. You've proven again and again that you're an ignorant, arrogant asshole. Why don't you just go troll somewhere else? This was supposed to be about Johnny Ramone's dying. If you didn't like the band then STFU. Show some respect.
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The Ramones were there when no one else, they are like elvis, they had long hair and leather jackets. I really liked the album "ramones mania" it has all the classics on it

And now one of em is dead! Probably saw a "simple plan" music video and said 'punk is dead'

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Mac Genius, just to clarify things before you get overheated, the punk movement took off here in the UK with the Sex Pistols. As I remember they admitted the bands that inspired them were the New York Dolls, and the Ramones. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but if I am not, then that does make the Ramones one of the leaders of that particular musical revolution, as opposed to a follower.

Did anyone spot in the article that one of the people around Johnny Ramone's death bed was Talia Shire. What will Sonny say?

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Not totally. Even the Ramones, Blondie, New York Dolls and Talking Heads all stated, at one time or another, that their major influence were the Velvet Underground. Most of what is considered the first wave of punk all considered them the originator of the movement. Can we say, leather whip dancers?

Though the Ramones were one of the first to play what we consider modern punk. And the only ones to survive without morphing into 80's New Wave.

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quote:
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Though the Ramones were one of the first to play what we consider modern punk. And the only ones to survive without morphing into 80's New Wave.

Wasn't that more of a post-punk thing? Joy Division/New Order, the Cure and the like? Though I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the biggest scholar of punk music.

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His death is a sad thing, I'm not a huge punk fan. But I can understand what the Ramones did for the punk/rock/indie scene in general with the influence they had on other bands.

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quote:
Originally posted by Aves Corax:
Wasn't that more of a post-punk thing? Joy Division/New Order, the Cure and the like? Though I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the biggest scholar of punk music.

Yes and no. When the term punk first showed up it encompassed a few different genres. But the general theme was a complete lack of 70's over polish. It was gritty and lacked the theatrics of rock and disco. But if you ever get the chance to listen to old CbGb recordings of the punks that became famous the Ramones are the only ones that truly kept that early vibe. Talking heads were considered a punk band when they started and we all know what they are famous for. And Blondie was a part of that scene too.

New Order and The Cure are generally considered more of the "raincoat" or "goth" fathers. [Big Grin] Not so much post punk.

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I don't think the Ramones would cite the Velvets as one of their influences. Apples and oranges. The Stooges maybe. The Ramones were more influenced by '60's pop, British Invasion and garage bands. The Ramones sound was like nothing else that came before it, though. The term "punk" came from the John Hagstrom magazine of the same name. Its first issue had Joey Ramone in it. Hagstrom also did cover art on the Ramones albums.
Joy Division, The Cure and the rest can all be fitted under the loose label of "post-punk" and because of their subject matter, they can also be termed "Goth." But I think Goth as a movement really started with bands like Bauhaus.

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