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Flashfire
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posted June 09, 2004 10:42
Well, Friday has officially been declared a National Day of Mourning, and since my husband works for the government, it means a 3-day weekend. I mean no disrespect, but this is probably the only thing Reagan ever did that impacts me personally...
/me was too young during his terms to really be affected by them.
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The Famous Druid
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posted June 09, 2004 14:48
quote: Originally posted by crazyarlo: Reagan actually RENEWED the Cold War as an excuse to line the pockets of defense contractors, and to "mobilize the base". $5500 toilet seats and the treasury draining Star Wars program are just two examples.
Ok, you've hit on one of my pet peeves here, the $5500 toilet seat, along with the $11,000 coffee-pot and the $8400 hammer are a myth, caused by the US governments rather strange procurement rules.
If the military want 10 new truck mounted anti-missile systems, and the costs are R&D $15,000,000 Missile launchers 10 @ $1,000,000 Trucks 10 @ $100,000 Jacks for trucks 10 @ $50
The bean counters won't pay for the R&D directly, so they make you spread the R&D evenly across all of the other billable items, which in this case means $500,000 gets added to each item, leading some politician who should know better to complain about the $500,050 jack for a truck.
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posted June 10, 2004 05:34
Elimination of student loans. Lies about welfare mothers driving Cadillacs. The invasion of Granada. An $8 Million dollar inauguration ball, right when the nation was suffering the most from the recession. It was almost like they were mocking us. Oh hell, they WERE!
Ronald Reagan (we called him Ray Gun) was an official Dick.
Now, I do agree with the concept that they have to distribute R and D across all of their costs. My problem is the huge scope of unchecked and unaccounted defense spending back then, and of course, NOW! THERE IS NOT MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM!!!! Let's make a tee shirt out of that!
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posted June 10, 2004 17:40
That about sums up the news coverage. It seems that his personality makes some people overlook the evilness of his administration. That why I said he was the personification of evil. He was a wolf in sheep's clothing so to say.
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spungo
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posted June 11, 2004 12:20
You only have to look at who his friends were: that evil whore of Babylon slut-bitch tyrant fucking baby-eating Thatcher cow. Nuff sed.
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posted June 11, 2004 12:21
So you liked Thatcher then?
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posted June 11, 2004 12:21
quote: Originally posted by spungo: You only have to look at who his friends were: that evil whore of Babylon slut-bitch tyrant fucking baby-eating Thatcher cow. Nuff sed.
Really spungo, tell us how you really feel. Don't hold back. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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posted June 11, 2004 12:28
I saw her interviewed on the telly once - someone asked her what she hoped her government would achieve in the next four years - she said 'increased home-ownership'. Nevermind Apartheid, or death and torture in Palestine, or the unemployed, or the homeless, or the bombings in Northern Ireland - no, no - she was being prefectly candid as to what her party were interested in - keeping her voters happy - do that and it doesn't matter if the country goes to shit. Fucking tories.
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posted June 11, 2004 15:14
Paraphrased from a /. post today:
Ronald Reagan was having a talk with Gorbachev, Reagan said: "In my country, anyone can walk into the white house and tell me that they think I'm doing a bad job running the country" Gorbachev replied: "Yes, in my country as well, anyone can walk into the kremlin and tell the premier that Ronald Regan is doing a bad job running the US"
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posted June 11, 2004 15:23
quote: Originally posted by spungo: You only have to look at who his friends were: that evil whore of Babylon slut-bitch tyrant fucking baby-eating Thatcher cow.
Or, to give her full title Baroness Margaret may-she-burn-in-hell-forever Thatcher.
You think the English hate the witch? Try asking the Scots !
/me wanders off muttering ..... fscking poll tax ......
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posted June 11, 2004 17:41
quote: Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
/me wanders off muttering ..... fscking poll tax ......
That was a truly outrageous episode. "Yes - we're bringing in a new local taxation scheme - and we'd thought we'd try it out in Scotland for a year first, before giving it to the rest of the country - just to see if it's a complete failure or not." I don't know how they got away with that. Totally unbelievable.
To be fair there was one good thing to come out of the poll tax saga - it was the final nail in that bitch's coffin.
When she was finally driven out of Downing Street weeping into her hands - they were not her tears in the (sadly bullet-proof) Jag - they were my tears of joy! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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posted June 11, 2004 19:40
I just want to be the first to say it, ...ala Elvis...
Reagan isn't dead.
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posted June 11, 2004 21:51
i liked these from The Onion .
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posted June 14, 2004 19:45
quote: Originally posted by Callipygous: All those stories about his verbal gaffes miss the point. He was the most effective radical, almost revolutionary, politician. Like Mrs Thatcher over here he changed the political landscape forever. In one sense they were both a long overdue dose of corrective political medicine. But in both cases their legacy has been almost universally bad, as you cannot live in a state of permanent revolution. That "liberal" and "compromise" are still terms of political abuse is a part of this legacy. Any politician now putting forward the notion that no single person or party has a monopoly on truth would be almost universally derided as having no moral courage. Instead we currently seem to admire politicians with clear simple solutions to the complex problems of this world.
You hit the nail on the head, there. Both of them saw the World as black and white, when we all know it ain't. Of course, the real question is how did the nation change such that careful interpretation of circumstances was shelved in favour of sound-bite politics? Why did those ludicrously simple answers seem so appealing to the electorate? One possibility is that the austere uncertainty of the seventies, the strikes, the oil crises, the unrelenting Soviet nuclear threat, was similar, in a way, to 1930s Germany. In hard times people will believe anything if it comes from someone who can concievably remove their difficulties.
I guess the lesson to the nation is to not allow itself to get poor or worried again, as we'll just get another bunch of extremists in power. Makes you wonder what's going to happen in twenty or thirty years time when the pensions situation gets critical.
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posted June 14, 2004 20:27
quote: Originally posted by spungo: quote: Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
/me wanders off muttering ..... fscking poll tax ......
That was a truly outrageous episode. "Yes - we're bringing in a new local taxation scheme - and we'd thought we'd try it out in Scotland for a year first, before giving it to the rest of the country - just to see if it's a complete failure or not." I don't know how they got away with that. Totally unbelievable.
Well, the Tory MPs from Scotland didn't get away with it, we sacked the fscking lot of 'em !
Personally, I'm bitterly disappointed we didn't stage a few public hangings to really bring the point home, would have served the traitorous bastards right.
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posted June 14, 2004 20:42
I find it deeply disturbing that the man became a coming attraction after his death
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posted June 15, 2004 16:38
quote: Originally posted by Katie: I find it deeply disturbing that the man became a coming attraction after his death
America always seems to have a morbid fascination with death. Look at the number of people who watch Hockey for the fights and NASCAR for the crashes (not that there aren't a lot people who watch them for the sports). Also the number of people who slow down at an accident scene, even when there isn't any emergency vehicles coming or going. Also, Regan affected a lot of people in a lot of different ways; so that is a lot of people to say goodbye or see if their dreams really have come true.
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