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Icon 1 posted October 28, 2006 14:55      Profile for boo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Because you're a geek ..
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Because of the fact that I'm a geek? No.

Because of the fact that I'm more attracted to a woman if she can belch loudly? Yes.

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What is this fascination with belching, farting women you have? [crazy] *scratches head* (and more importantly, are there many out there? Because, (thankfully) I don't know any) [Big Grin]
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Yes, but not because I'm a geek. I just don't have a lot of the same interests that most people do I guess.
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Icon 1 posted October 28, 2006 16:40      Profile for Ugh, MightyClub     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
My eldest daughter is quite the belcher. At her age it makes her very popular with the boys. I never thought it would serve her past, say, college, but maybe there's hope. Or should I say fear, with the likes of Steen to look forward to as a son-in-law [devil wand]

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Women are odd. They seem to want to address the man/woman inequality issue by debasing themselves to the level of loutish men. Am I turned on by women who belch? No. I wonder why they're lowering their standards so much. (But in Steen's case they have a redeeming feature that they're also smart but I doubt that this is typically the case). And smoking -- it's cool for blokes to take on such a foul and noxious habit and now women try to equalise by doing same. And then women exact revenge on men by pushing them down in the workplace, proving they're no better than the men they replaced instead of showing superiority by being fair and just. What are they trying to prove exactly?

But to the original question, it depends on perspective. Do I feel like a misfit? Yes, but to the planet as a whole which I don't recognise as my own. But I could argue that most people are misfits in the beautiful world that they're corrupting and destroying ... The Earth did not start out in the mess it's in now, so by what basis can any decent folk call themselves misfits? We're not the ones who would have caused such wanton destruction to this planet and ruined so many lives.

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It depends on what you call being a misfit, I suppose. If you mean do I feel as if I'm not normal, that's pretty easy to answer - of course I'm not, or I wouldn't be on a forum called "Geek Culture" to begin with!

If you mean something pejorative, however, then no. I feel as if I don't fit, perhaps, but it's everyone else's fault - there is nothing wrong with being intelligent, scholarly, or ethical.

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quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Yes, but not because I'm a geek. I just don't have a lot of the same interests that most people do I guess.

Well here's one that you have with someone: Two of the people you want to meet are in my top three list of favorite writers of all time. [Smile]
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Originally posted by Ugh, MightyClub:
My eldest daughter is quite the belcher. At her age it makes her very popular with the boys. I never thought it would serve her past, say, college, but maybe there's hope. Or should I say fear, with the likes of Steen to look forward to as a son-in-law [devil wand]

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Originally posted by uilleann:
Women are odd.

And then women exact revenge on men by pushing them down in the workplace, proving they're no better than the men they replaced instead of showing superiority by being fair and just. What are they trying to prove exactly?

I agree. Women are odd. Would you prefer a world without them, then?

But why should they show superiority? Who says they are superior? I certainly don't think they are.
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Originally posted by Metasquares:


If you mean something pejorative, however, then no. I feel as if I don't fit, perhaps, but it's everyone else's fault - there is nothing wrong with being intelligent, scholarly, or ethical.

Hear, hear!
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No, women want to show their superiority over men in vengeance for us dominating them for so long. But they're going about it the whole wrong way.

A world without women? I'd like a world without people. I don't know if I appreciate gender or not or whether I seek a genderless society, of hermaphrodites ... I don't know. Too many years going by and nothing but increasing confusion.

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quote:
Originally posted by uilleann:
No, women want to show their superiority over men in vengeance for us dominating them for so long. But they're going about it the whole wrong way.

A world without women? I'd like a world without people. I don't know if I appreciate gender or not or whether I seek a genderless society, of hermaphrodites ... I don't know. Too many years going by and nothing but increasing confusion.

A world without any people would be problematic. Sometimes I just wish that people acted more rationally. If they did, society wouldn't be in the mess that it is now.
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quote:
Originally posted by Metasquares:
A world without any people would be problematic. Sometimes I just wish that people acted more rationally. If they did, society wouldn't be in the mess that it is now.

How would a world without any people be problematic? Standing aside for a minute, looking objectively at the situation, and putting aside your own feelings of wanting to exist, a world without people would be MUCH better off. No pollution, no overpopulation, no global warming (aside from the ***very*** gradual natural warming of the ending ice age), no wars, no toxic landfills, no unearthed hydrocarbons, no extraneous electromagnetic radiation.... If it weren't for humans, the Earth would still be in it's natural state and well balanced. Lets face it, folks, Agent Smith was right, we are a disease to this planet.

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With a post like that, some might think you fell off the wagon.

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Wow hon... no more Matrix for you....

/me hands MMKK "Where The Sidewalk Ends" and tells him this will make it better

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quote:
Originally posted by MacManKrisK:
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Originally posted by Metasquares:
A world without any people would be problematic. Sometimes I just wish that people acted more rationally. If they did, society wouldn't be in the mess that it is now.

How would a world without any people be problematic? Standing aside for a minute, looking objectively at the situation, and putting aside your own feelings of wanting to exist, a world without people would be MUCH better off. No pollution, no overpopulation, no global warming (aside from the ***very*** gradual natural warming of the ending ice age), no wars, no toxic landfills, no unearthed hydrocarbons, no extraneous electromagnetic radiation.... If it weren't for humans, the Earth would still be in it's natural state and well balanced. Lets face it, folks, Agent Smith was right, we are a disease to this planet.
When are we going to start designing great orbital cities so we can let the Earth recover from all the damage humans have caused?

Surely as a community of geeks it should be no trouble for us. We've got physicists, chemists, biologists and engineers, what more do we need? Ok, maybe a little large scale fraud is on the cards to get the funds needed. Any politicians here for that? Lawyers too.

It's not an impossible task my fellow geeks. [crazy]

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A world without people wouldn't be a 'world' would it? It would just be a planet, wouldn't it? Unless it were the former Pluto, of course, in which case it is merely an astronomic anomaly of some sort. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
A world without people wouldn't be a 'world' would it? It would just be a planet, wouldn't it? Unless it were the former Pluto, of course, in which case it is merely an astronomic anomaly of some sort. [Big Grin]

I'm going to argue that it would still be a world, because it would still contain a biosphere, just that the biosphere wouldn't contain us.

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Let's take the 'if a tree falls in the forest, and nobody is around to hear it, does it still make a sound?' approach to this problem.

Really, if a world contains no people, is it important? Not really, at least in my view. I mean, if we're not around to experience it, who cares?


Maybe one day we'll get to the point where we can back pedal and let the earth 'recover' from everything that we've used it for. Or maybe, just maybe, we'll do what comes naturally to us and achieve a point of technological prowess such that we can shape the environment. This is a solution I would prefer, because instead of having our unwillingness to destroy the earth out of respect for th earth itself (which is a flimsy argument and holds no weight in my book), we can use our technology skillz to build a better earth. That's what I'm hoping for.

We talk about leaving earth to let it heal from the 'wounds' we've caused it. Alright, well, what happens when we come back? Won't we just cause more wounds, and have to repeat the cycle? So why don't we try to start shaping our environment (and I don't just mean the ecology) instead of letting it dictate what we do; we are humans, after all. As far as we've observed, we're the smartest beings in the entire universe.

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quote:
Originally posted by Metasquares:
A world without any people would be problematic.

For whom?

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I've a scar on my hind end that would contest this assertion.

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quote:
Originally posted by MacManKrisK:
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Originally posted by Metasquares:
A world without any people would be problematic. Sometimes I just wish that people acted more rationally. If they did, society wouldn't be in the mess that it is now.

How would a world without any people be problematic? Standing aside for a minute, looking objectively at the situation, and putting aside your own feelings of wanting to exist, a world without people would be MUCH better off. No pollution, no overpopulation, no global warming (aside from the ***very*** gradual natural warming of the ending ice age), no wars, no toxic landfills, no unearthed hydrocarbons, no extraneous electromagnetic radiation.... If it weren't for humans, the Earth would still be in it's natural state and well balanced. Lets face it, folks, Agent Smith was right, we are a disease to this planet.
You're attaching values to aspects of nature, which can be neither good nor bad. You say the world would be better without us, and compare us to a disease. However, diseases are part of the "natural" state of the planet, and are neither good nor bad. Was it bad when cataclysms happened in the past, before humanity came along?

Protecting the environment is about us, not about the world.

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"Beware the beast man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."
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GMx wrote:
Beware the beast man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport

You've not had a lot of pet cats, have you?

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I've never had a pet primate cat, although that might describe some of Joel Veitch's creations ...
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quote:
Originally posted by uilleann:
What are they trying to prove exactly?

That they can do the job. It's something you have to be a woman in a male-dominated field to understand.

It's not behavior I engage in or endorse, but I know where it come from. In a lot of traditionally male-dominated fields, a woman has to be as good as an outstanding man to be considered mediocre. To be seen as outstanding,she more or less has to step outside the bounds of humanity. Things are getting better in science - I've been having a far easier time than, say, my mom's generation - but I have run into this attitude in the past. I may in the future, but as things currently stand, I've managed to more or less step outside the bounds of humanity. Bold statement, I know. But I can back it up, and to be honest, when I think about what I've done in the last year and a half or so, I don't feel proud. I feel tired. Really fscking tired.

As far as being a misfit goes, I embrace my misfit-ness, and, on some rare occasions, I even manage to transcend it. I work with other people who do the same. Once you've gotten over yourself life just gets so much better.

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But then, I guess, I don't understand the idea of a male-dominated society. What's wrong with women? (OK, metric ton(ne)s of stuff, but men are no better, it's a case of pick your poison really)

Though you already know that I don't live in the real world.

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