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littlefish
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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2008 10:14      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I was trying to resize a bmp to a gif, using preview, but it wouldn't save for some reason. I think it may be due to a lack of disk space!

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Yeah, a resolution of 1 usually isn't recommended! [Eek!] [Razz]

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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2008 14:05      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
It was over 1 petabyte at 72 dpi too.
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Only 72? We used 220 - 240 dpi when I worked in advertising. Still, that probably wouldn't cut down the image as much as you need, either.

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Icon 1 posted March 23, 2008 15:24      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
If you reduce the number of colours, you could probably shrink it down to less than 1 exabyte.

btw - I'm interested to see the image, wanna email it to me?

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Icon 10 posted March 23, 2008 20:19      Profile for Richard Wolf VI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Wow! That must be a big image! [crazy]

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
If you reduce the number of colours, you could probably shrink it down to less than 1 exabyte.

btw - I'm interested to see the image, wanna email it to me?

This is what senator Ted, series of tubes, stevens was talking about. YOu don't have aq dump truck to drive that thing over, you have tubes, and those pixels are too big for the tubes.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
If you reduce the number of colours, you could probably shrink it down to less than 1 exabyte.

btw - I'm interested to see the image, wanna email it to me?

This is what senator Ted, series of tubes, stevens was talking about. YOu don't have aq dump truck to drive that thing over, you have tubes, and those pixels are too big for the tubes.
Oh yeah, how silly of me.
1 pixel/cm, those pixels are just too big to fit in those tiny fibre-optic cables.

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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2008 07:00      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
*cough* Use PNG! *cough*

(Though frankly, TFD...using GIF inherently reduces the number of colors, since GIF sucks. [Razz] )

Personally, I never use Preview for anything but viewing images...I find it significantly lacking in basic functionality. Instead, I use Seashore for my basic image manipulation. It's based on the Gimp core, but with Cocoa niceness. [Smile]

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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2008 09:01      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Gimp squeezed it down OK, so no more problems. I was just trying to take a print quality B/W logo and shrink it for a website.

Can all browsers read pngs thes days? I seem to remember explorer didn't support them last time I was doing websites.

TFD: If you really want the original image (all 320K of it), drop me a PM.

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Explorer has beendoing PNGs for years.
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Last time I checked Exlorer didn't properly handle transparency in PNGs. But that was over a year ago on IE6 I think. Maybe IE7 is better.

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IE 7 should handle PNGs as good as JPEGs, and that's not a great thing [Roll Eyes]

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It still does not handle PNG transparency properly, but I use PNG for other stuff like banners and backgrounds. If I need tranparency, I usually use a GIF.
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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2008 14:06      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by iWanToUseaMac:
IE 7 should handle PNGs as good as JPEGs, and that's not a great thing [Roll Eyes]

Explain.

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quote:
Originally posted by Huicho:
It still does not handle PNG transparency properly, but I use PNG for other stuff like banners and backgrounds. If I need tranparency, I usually use a GIF.

I beg to differ. I may not like IE, but let's not perpetuate false claims. I just tried this page in IE7 and it's fine:
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/PNG/inline-alpha.html

(Also, you can make it work in IE6 if you use the following horrific CSS code:
code:
<!--[if lt IE 7]>
<style type="text/css" media="screen">
#foo {background: none; filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src="images/some-background.png");}
</style>
<![endif]-->

...it'll make you cry, but it works!)

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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2008 14:51      Profile for Richard Wolf VI   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by iWanToUseaMac:
IE 7 should handle PNGs as good as JPEGs, and that's not a great thing [Roll Eyes]

Explain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers#endnote_IEJPEG

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by Huicho:
It still does not handle PNG transparency properly, but I use PNG for other stuff like banners and backgrounds. If I need tranparency, I usually use a GIF.

I beg to differ. I may not like IE, but let's not perpetuate false claims. I just tried this page in IE7 and it's fine:
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/PNG/inline-alpha.html

(Also, you can make it work in IE6 if you use the following horrific CSS code:
code:
<!--[if lt IE 7]>
<style type="text/css" media="screen">
#foo {background: none; filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src="images/some-background.png");}
</style>
<![endif]-->

...it'll make you cry, but it works!)

If I can make that out through my tears I'll put it in my toolbox. Thanks, dman.

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quote:
Originally posted by iWanToUseaMac:
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by iWanToUseaMac:
IE 7 should handle PNGs as good as JPEGs, and that's not a great thing [Roll Eyes]

Explain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers#endnote_IEJPEG
That's a pretty weak argument.

*gasp*

IE7 can't progressively load JPEGs. We're all gonna die!

I may not have loads of love for IE, but that's nothing major. IE7 is a reasonably capable browser, and like it or not, it's used but a huge number of people. It's also a *huge* improvement over IE6, pushed along in no small part by the competition of Firefox. Now...if you want underhanded, look at how Apple is pushing Safari installs through the Apple Software Update component installed by iTunes. Safari is dinky web browser, and it's pretty disgusting that they're pushing it out to people...where's their sense of pride?

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OK, I didn't mean IE sucked so much. Still, MS has that strange habit to make things incomplete. IE7 works just fine, and is a great improvement over IE6, but it still lags behind in full support for even the most basic standards, compared to other browsers.
Apple's move pushing Safari was indeed dumb considering it has become quite stable and very fast, plus CSS3 support (hmm... webfonts), so it's underrating a great browser.

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