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SweaterTheory
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Stump says:
Omg Michael
Stump says:
You know about the fourth dimension right?
nosrettap leahcim says:
you mean from that book
Stump says:
What book?
nosrettap leahcim says:
I dont' remember the name
nosrettap leahcim says:
with the tesseract
Stump says:
No, the actual fourth dimension.
nosrettap leahcim says:
andrew showed you that sight
Stump says:
No, that was a 2 dimensional representation of a four dimensional object.
nosrettap leahcim says:
wth
nosrettap leahcim says:
I don't understand what you're talking about
Stump says:

Stump says:
Anyway.
Stump says:
There can only be 10 dimensions, it turns out.
Stump says:
Because the tenth dimension (in which the theoretical "superstrings" exist") contains all possible infinites.
nosrettap leahcim says:
yeah
nosrettap leahcim says:
but thats 6 after 4
Stump says:
And by bending the 9th dimension, you could exist in an alternate universe.
nosrettap leahcim says:
you were talking about the 4th dimension
Stump says:
Yes, I know.
nosrettap leahcim says:
lol
Stump says:
The 4th dimension is simply time.
nosrettap leahcim says:
ok
nosrettap leahcim says:
yeah I get time
nosrettap leahcim says:
we can't stop it
nosrettap leahcim says:
it just goes
nosrettap leahcim says:
like the energizer bunny
Stump says:
Now, the fifth dimension. Is a different sense of time.
Stump says:
Think of it not like a river, in one direction.
Stump says:
But like Fable.
Stump says:
Different descisions weaving different paths.
nosrettap leahcim says:
so a river going backwards
nosrettap leahcim says:
going into the tributaries
nosrettap leahcim says:
all the different ways
nosrettap leahcim says:
not all difffernet things making one thing
Stump says:
No a river that at any moment could divide into tributaries, and so on and so forth.
nosrettap leahcim says:
but all one thing making different things
nosrettap leahcim says:
exactly
nosrettap leahcim says:
a backwards river
Stump says:
Yes, you got it, except the backwards part.
Stump says:
Time still moves forward.
nosrettap leahcim says:
this is my analigky
Stump says:
Just not in a straight line.
nosrettap leahcim says:
I just said like
nosrettap leahcim says:
not exactly as
nosrettap leahcim says:
yeah I get ya
Stump says:
Like, a mobius strip with gravity.
nosrettap leahcim says:
mobius?
Stump says:
Feel like you're infinitely moving forward, but are really twisting and turning.
nosrettap leahcim says:
so a convery belt that spins with antil-gravity
nosrettap leahcim says:
like is space
nosrettap leahcim says:
but moving forward
nosrettap leahcim says:
right?
Stump says:
Something to that effect.
Stump says:
If you could somehow manipulate dimensions, you could fold the fifth INTO the sixth to change your current timeline.
nosrettap leahcim says:
so go to differnt ages
Stump says:
Basically.
nosrettap leahcim says:
like go to my 5th grade class
nosrettap leahcim says:
as me now
nosrettap leahcim says:
cool
Stump says:
Lol
Stump says:
Tell me about it.
nosrettap leahcim says:
I'd be a bully
Stump says:
But anyway
Stump says:
The seventh dimention holds all possible timelines from the "big bang" to any end to our universe.
Stump says:
Or "infinity"
nosrettap leahcim says:
cool
nosrettap leahcim says:
you can go all of them
nosrettap leahcim says:
not just your timeline
nosrettap leahcim says:
pretty sweet
Stump says:
Anyway.
nosrettap leahcim says:
could you go to the end and then the beginning... or would you end at the end?
Stump says:
Now the eighth dimention would contain ANOTHER INFINITY.
Stump says:
How is that possible?
nosrettap leahcim says:
infinity thats how
Stump says:
A different beginning to the universe.
nosrettap leahcim says:
and a cycle
nosrettap leahcim says:
and split loops
nosrettap leahcim says:
they interconnect
Stump says:
In which things are different.
nosrettap leahcim says:
like that figure 8
nosrettap leahcim says:
or taht
Stump says:
So, our eighth dimention now contains, OUR infinity, and AN ALTERNATE Infinity.
Stump says:
Are you following me?
nosrettap leahcim says:
yes
Stump says:
Because The beginning of our universe (everything) to the end of It is INFINITY.
nosrettap leahcim says:
and the other one
Stump says:
And if it were to begin differently, things could be altered, like gravity, or the speed of light.
nosrettap leahcim says:
yeah
Stump says:
Causing whole new timelines.
nosrettap leahcim says:
things change
nosrettap leahcim says:
like that one short story
nosrettap leahcim says:
the sound of thunder
nosrettap leahcim says:
he killed a butterfly
nosrettap leahcim says:
everything changed
Stump says:
I already told you that "bending" or "folding" the ninth dimension would "allow" you to cross infinities.
nosrettap leahcim says:
yeah I think so
Stump says:
And the tenth dimension (drumroll please)
Stump says:
Contains all possible Infinities.
nosrettap leahcim says:
yeah
nosrettap leahcim says:
is that it?
Stump says:
Phew
Stump says:
That was a brain excercise.
nosrettap leahcim says:
ok
nosrettap leahcim says:
so how do we get to the 5th dimension and so on
Stump says:
LOL.
nosrettap leahcim says:
so it really doesn't matter does it?
nosrettap leahcim says:
cuz we can't prove this
nosrettap leahcim says:
if we could
nosrettap leahcim says:
then we'd be considered gods
nosrettap leahcim says:
cuz we could stop each other
nosrettap leahcim says:
the first one in would win
nosrettap leahcim says:
we'd kill each other off to make sure no one else got in
nosrettap leahcim says:
so yeah
Stump says:
Its like asking, "So how can we get this rock to fly a plane"
Stump says:
Its just not going to happen.
Stump says:
Lol
nosrettap leahcim says:
best stick with 4 dimensions
Stump says:
Oh, one more things.
nosrettap leahcim says:
actually
nosrettap leahcim says:
rocks can fly planes now
Stump says:
Incredibly tiny theoretical "superstrings" that vibrate in the 10th dimension create subatomic particles that make up all things in all infinities.
Stump says:
In theory of course.
nosrettap leahcim says:
automated rock arms with cybernetic intake valves controled by deisel powered nucliec acid compounds allow the rock to be controlled and fly a plane
nosrettap leahcim says:
so we could cut super strings?
Stump says:
Lol
nosrettap leahcim says:
thus kill each othe roff
nosrettap leahcim says:
other* off
Stump says:
I have no freaking idea?!
nosrettap leahcim says:
so like I said
nosrettap leahcim says:
just a better weapon for terrorists
Stump says:
Yeah, michael, its a metaphor.
nosrettap leahcim says:
stick with the 4th dimension
nosrettap leahcim says:
I don't think so
nosrettap leahcim says:
time is just one eloborate quilt continueally being woven by gode
Stump says:
Yeah if you were to live in a 4 dimensional world.
nosrettap leahcim says:
god
nosrettap leahcim says:
we do
nosrettap leahcim says:
we live in time
Stump says:
You would see yourself (quote) "as a long undulating snake, with your embryonic self at one end and your deceased self at the other"
Stump says:
Crazy isn't it.
nosrettap leahcim says:
nope
nosrettap leahcim says:
I already do
Stump says:
You need a CT scan.
Stump says:
Lol
nosrettap leahcim says:
yeah I do
nosrettap leahcim says:
the docters got freaked out last time though.....
Stump says:
Why?
Stump says:
Did they find more silverware?
nosrettap leahcim says:
mecury
nosrettap leahcim says:
mercury
nosrettap leahcim says:
thats the substance that makes up my brain
Stump says:
They found mercury in your skull?
Stump says:
Oh.
nosrettap leahcim says:
apparently
Stump says:
Lol
nosrettap leahcim says:
yeah thats what I thought to
Stump says:
I thought you meant from, like a thermometer thing.
nosrettap leahcim says:
no
nosrettap leahcim says:
I moved things with my mind
nosrettap leahcim says:
I'm the next stage of evolution


Funny how a smart conversation can turn so stupid, so fast.

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There are some who adhere to the belief that there are 11 dimensions, not 10.

Until I see some actual science, with falsifiability, empiricism, and the whole bit, though, I'm disinclined to believe that string theory is correct to begin with.

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Welcome to the forums. It was a kind of long conversation though but still interesting. Kind of reminded me of Hitch Hiker's guide to the galaxy.

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quote:
Originally posted by Metasquares:
There are some who adhere to the belief that there are 11 dimensions, not 10.

I ran the problem on my Apple ][e about 20 years ago and it came up with 88 dimensions. Of course most of them were pretty much empty.

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quote:
Originally posted by Metasquares:
There are some who adhere to the belief that there are 11 dimensions, not 10.

Until I see some actual science, with falsifiability, empiricism, and the whole bit, though, I'm disinclined to believe that string theory is correct to begin with.

Depending on which version of strng theory you adhere to, there can be up to 26 dimensions (or, as the string-sceptics like to call them, fudge-factors). Personally, I've allways thought the maths gets unmanageable whenever you go beyond 2.

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The problem with discussing string theory is that 99.99% of the population doesn't have the brain to do the math, and of those that do have the brain, most don't have the time. So most people just have to take the word of people who have devoted thier life to the subject. Which basically means that the only people reliable enough to believe about judging string theory, are biased because they have devoted thier life to the subject.

I myself think it is a reasonable theory,from what I have read from the scientists of the field, but await lab proof of string theory. Think "CERN".

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The math scales beautifully past two dimensions. It's the physics that get weird.
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Yeah. I just thought I would post this because of how quickly and drastically the conversation changes at the end. I'm still not sure if I'm getting my facts straight about all this stuff. I've just finished the 9th grade, so I have a lot left to learn.
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You've just finished ninth grade? You write very coherently for a soon-to-be tenth grader. The Grammar Nazis will approve of you... as will the Syntax Stasi. [Wink]

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That looks like it came out of some backwards IM client. I found it awkward to read and ran a simple regex on it in vi. Feel free to edit your original post with this - no content has been changed.
:g/ says:\n/s//: /

Originally posted by SweaterTheory:
quote:

Stump: Omg Michael
Stump: You know about the fourth dimension right?
nosrettap leahcim: you mean from that book
Stump: What book?
nosrettap leahcim: I dont' remember the name
nosrettap leahcim: with the tesseract
Stump: No, the actual fourth dimension.
nosrettap leahcim: andrew showed you that sight
Stump: No, that was a 2 dimensional representation of a four dimensional object.
nosrettap leahcim: wth
nosrettap leahcim: I don't understand what you're talking about
Stump: [email protected]?
Stump: Anyway.
Stump: There can only be 10 dimensions, it turns out.
Stump: Because the tenth dimension (in which the theoretical "superstrings" exist") contains all possible infinites.
nosrettap leahcim: yeah
nosrettap leahcim: but thats 6 after 4
Stump: And by bending the 9th dimension, you could exist in an alternate universe.
nosrettap leahcim: you were talking about the 4th dimension
Stump: Yes, I know.
nosrettap leahcim: lol
Stump: The 4th dimension is simply time.
nosrettap leahcim: ok
nosrettap leahcim: yeah I get time
nosrettap leahcim: we can't stop it
nosrettap leahcim: it just goes
nosrettap leahcim: like the energizer bunny
Stump: Now, the fifth dimension. Is a different sense of time.
Stump: Think of it not like a river, in one direction.
Stump: But like Fable.
Stump: Different descisions weaving different paths.
nosrettap leahcim: so a river going backwards
nosrettap leahcim: going into the tributaries
nosrettap leahcim: all the different ways
nosrettap leahcim: not all difffernet things making one thing
Stump: No a river that at any moment could divide into tributaries, and so on and so forth.
nosrettap leahcim: but all one thing making different things
nosrettap leahcim: exactly
nosrettap leahcim: a backwards river
Stump: Yes, you got it, except the backwards part.
Stump: Time still moves forward.
nosrettap leahcim: this is my analigky
Stump: Just not in a straight line.
nosrettap leahcim: I just said like
nosrettap leahcim: not exactly as
nosrettap leahcim: yeah I get ya
Stump: Like, a mobius strip with gravity.
nosrettap leahcim: mobius?
Stump: Feel like you're infinitely moving forward, but are really twisting and turning.
nosrettap leahcim: so a convery belt that spins with antil-gravity
nosrettap leahcim: like is space
nosrettap leahcim: but moving forward
nosrettap leahcim: right?
Stump: Something to that effect.Stump: If you could somehow manipulate dimensions, you could fold the fifth INTO the sixth to change your current timeline.
nosrettap leahcim: so go to differnt ages
Stump: Basically.
nosrettap leahcim: like go to my 5th grade class
nosrettap leahcim: as me now
nosrettap leahcim: cool
Stump: Lol
Stump: Tell me about it.
nosrettap leahcim: I'd be a bully
Stump: But anyway
Stump: The seventh dimention holds all possible timelines from the "big bang" to any end to our universe.
Stump: Or "infinity"
nosrettap leahcim: cool
nosrettap leahcim: you can go all of them
nosrettap leahcim: not just your timeline
nosrettap leahcim: pretty sweet
Stump: Anyway.
nosrettap leahcim: could you go to the end and then the beginning... or would you end at the end?
Stump: Now the eighth dimention would contain ANOTHER INFINITY.
Stump: How is that possible?
nosrettap leahcim: infinity thats how
Stump: A different beginning to the universe.
nosrettap leahcim: and a cycle
nosrettap leahcim: and split loops
nosrettap leahcim: they interconnect
Stump: In which things are different.
nosrettap leahcim: like that figure 8
nosrettap leahcim: or taht
Stump: So, our eighth dimention now contains, OUR infinity, and AN ALTERNATE Infinity.
Stump: Are you following me?
nosrettap leahcim: yes
Stump: Because The beginning of our universe (everything) to the end of It is INFINITY.
nosrettap leahcim: and the other one
Stump: And if it were to begin differently, things could be altered, like gravity, or the speed of light.
nosrettap leahcim: yeah
Stump: Causing whole new timelines.
nosrettap leahcim: things change
nosrettap leahcim: like that one short story
nosrettap leahcim: the sound of thunder
nosrettap leahcim: he killed a butterfly
nosrettap leahcim: everything changed
Stump: I already told you that "bending" or "folding" the ninth dimension would "allow" you to cross infinities.
nosrettap leahcim: yeah I think so
Stump: And the tenth dimension (drumroll please)
Stump: Contains all possible Infinities.
nosrettap leahcim: yeah
nosrettap leahcim: is that it?
Stump: Phew
Stump: That was a brain excercise.
nosrettap leahcim: ok
nosrettap leahcim: so how do we get to the 5th dimension and so on
Stump: LOL.
nosrettap leahcim: so it really doesn't matter does it?
nosrettap leahcim: cuz we can't prove this
nosrettap leahcim: if we could
nosrettap leahcim: then we'd be considered gods
nosrettap leahcim: cuz we could stop each other
nosrettap leahcim: the first one in would win
nosrettap leahcim: we'd kill each other off to make sure no one else got in
nosrettap leahcim: so yeah
Stump: Its like asking, "So how can we get this rock to fly a plane"
Stump: Its just not going to happen.
Stump: Lol
nosrettap leahcim: best stick with 4 dimensions
Stump: Oh, one more things.
nosrettap leahcim: actually
nosrettap leahcim: rocks can fly planes now
Stump: Incredibly tiny theoretical "superstrings" that vibrate in the 10th dimension create subatomic particles that make up all things in all infinities.
Stump: In theory of course.
nosrettap leahcim: automated rock arms with cybernetic intake valves controled by deisel powered nucliec acid compounds allow the rock to be controlled and fly a plane
nosrettap leahcim: so we could cut super strings?
Stump: Lol
nosrettap leahcim: thus kill each othe roff
nosrettap leahcim: other* off
Stump: I have no freaking idea?!
nosrettap leahcim: so like I said
nosrettap leahcim: just a better weapon for terrorists
Stump: Yeah, michael, its a metaphor.
nosrettap leahcim: stick with the 4th dimension
nosrettap leahcim: I don't think so
nosrettap leahcim: time is just one eloborate quilt continueally being woven by gode
Stump: Yeah if you were to live in a 4 dimensional world.
nosrettap leahcim: god
nosrettap leahcim: we do
nosrettap leahcim: we live in time
Stump: You would see yourself (quote) "as a long undulating snake, with your embryonic self at one end and your deceased self at the other"
Stump: Crazy isn't it.
nosrettap leahcim: nope
nosrettap leahcim: I already do
Stump: You need a CT scan.
Stump: Lol
nosrettap leahcim: yeah I do
nosrettap leahcim: the docters got freaked out last time though.....
Stump: Why?
Stump: Did they find more silverware?
nosrettap leahcim: mecury
nosrettap leahcim: mercury
nosrettap leahcim: thats the substance that makes up my brain
Stump: They found mercury in your skull?
Stump: Oh.
nosrettap leahcim: apparently
Stump: Lol
nosrettap leahcim: yeah thats what I thought to
Stump: I thought you meant from, like a thermometer thing.
nosrettap leahcim: no
nosrettap leahcim: I moved things with my mind
nosrettap leahcim: I'm the next stage of evolution


Funny how a smart conversation can turn so stupid, so fast.



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There is only one dimension, the rest are all illusionary effects caused by being in a linear universe.

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