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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted July 31, 2010 03:46      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Whoa is this Big Brother?


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703940904575395073512989404.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


____ So how many more types of cookies are there?

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Icon 1 posted July 31, 2010 17:37      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Now wonder the Internet appears to be slower its all this BS the Hard drive has to retrieve.

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For a while I got quite paranoid about this kind of thing, I ran cookie blockers, script blockers, etc, but eventually I just gave up. Too many sites were just plain unusable with scripts/cookies blocked.

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Icon 1 posted July 31, 2010 18:48      Profile for quantumfluff     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
FWIW, the EFF Panopticlick project (http://panopticlick.eff.org/privacy.php) is an interesting study in how people can be uniquely coded just by browser characteristics, without any use of cookies.

I think in any discussion of profiling customers, it is important to understand the distinction between cooperating businesses trying to figure out how to best target a pair of eyeballs and a single entity trying to find out specifics of a single person. The former may seem creepy, but the reality is they only trade access to the ability to present to an anonymous person. The later is far more insidious, but not what really can happen in most web browsing.

If you want to be paranoid about something, think of the damage an ISP could do if they wanted to sell your browsing history. They may not know what you actually purchased, but the know exactly what sites you went to. Generally they don't do that, except if the government wants it. Read up on the CALEA act for more details.

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Icon 1 posted August 01, 2010 07:22      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Hi All TheMoMan here. Well this morning I found out about an App. that is supposed to speed up page loading.

Ghostery 2.2.1

____ Any one else have experience with this Addon?

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Icon 1 posted August 01, 2010 10:54      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Meh...that article does make the situation look ugly, but I try not to worry about that stuff. Besides, I surf with NoScript, so that knocks down a lot of the 'intermingling' stuff. Furthermore, any highly frivolous browsing (read: Steen links) goes straight to Safari in Private Browsing Mode (or Chrome Incognito)...and I clear Flash cookies on a ~weekly basis.

As qf said, the ISP level stuff is the really 'scary' stuff. (Mind you, if I'm on an 'untrusted' network...I just bypass the ISP. [Wink] )

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Hooray for storing preferences for individual sites. Too bad it's more or less an Opera-only feature*

A few select websites get to run javascript and/or store cookies on my system (and then only cookies from the site, not third parties). Even fewer are permitted to serve flash-based content and only from the site, not from advertisers. Animated .gif images usually show only the first frame, making them decidedly non-animated. Sound in web pages is disabled for all sites (amazingly, I don't miss MIDI tracks). Even animated gifs are disabled for most of the web.


*Firefox can kinda do it if you install enough add-ons and configure each one separately. Opera allows you to right click, choose site preferences to set everything for that site and it allows , which is far less work and allows far more control than Firefox's add-ons do.

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Icon 1 posted August 02, 2010 10:26      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
____ Hi All, Well I shut off Java Script, then I got a message from Sky-Warn. So I opened the NWS page for this area, the map came up but no radar image. Once I turned Java Script back on I got the weather Radar.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=apx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=no

____ So I sorta need Java Script.

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Icon 1 posted August 05, 2010 07:55      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
____ Now wonder the Internet appears to be slower its all this BS the Hard drive has to retrieve.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
____ Hi All, Well I shut off Java Script, then I got a message from Sky-Warn. So I opened the NWS page for this area, the map came up but no radar image. Once I turned Java Script back on I got the weather Radar.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=apx&product=N0R&overlay=11111111&loop=no

____ So I sorta need Java Script.

That's why NoScript is handy. You whitelist the sites you need it for, and it doesn't work on the rest.

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I personally think it's mostly harmless, but it's scary the depth of detail available, the fact that you have re-sporning cookies, and data shared across networks.

For the a lot of people, they are their own worst enemy though - it's unbelievable how many people use the same passwords for everything, or the standard ones, "qwerty", "password", their name, etc.

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quote:
Originally posted by katrina_suzanne:
I personally think it's mostly harmless, but it's scary the depth of detail available, the fact that you have re-sporning cookies, and data shared across networks.

For the a lot of people, they are their own worst enemy though - it's unbelievable how many people use the same passwords for everything, or the standard ones, "qwerty", "password", their name, etc.

Hello, there -- and may I be so bold as to add a "Welcome"? You should start a thread introducing yourself -- give all a chance to say 'Howdy'. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by katrina_suzanne:
I personally think it's mostly harmless, but it's scary the depth of detail available, the fact that you have re-sporning cookies, and data shared across networks.

For the a lot of people, they are their own worst enemy though - it's unbelievable how many people use the same passwords for everything, or the standard ones, "qwerty", "password", their name, etc.

Hello, there -- and may I be so bold as to add a "Welcome"? You should start a thread introducing yourself -- give all a chance to say 'Howdy'. [Smile]
Hmmmm. Doesn't seem she fell for your invite, spungo. Perhaps if the Cap'n were to politely request that she post a few pictures?

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Hello! sorry for the delay I hadn't

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....[pressed enter prematurely!]....

[cont]....checked email notifications.

Thanks for the reply Spungo, I'm Kat. I like gadgets, technology, online marketing and picture framing... weird mix I suppose!

I just stumbled on the forum and thought it seemed pretty relevant.

@Garlicguy... pictures?

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quote:
Originally posted by katrina_suzanne:
....[pressed enter prematurely!]....

[cont]....checked email notifications.

(...)

@Garlicguy... pictures?

Hi Kat, and welcome.

First, there is a little button that looks like a pencil and paper sheet at the top of posts, allowing you to edit when you submit early, or find a typo, or whatever... Just so you know! [Smile]

As for the pictures... Don't pay any attention, they may be geeks, but they are still guys! [crazy] [Razz]

Sooo, hey! Are the brownies in the fridge "safe"? Anyway, there is a nice choice of tea in the kitchen, if you prefer coffee, make sure to brew a fresh batch if you take the last cup, and I know there is some stronger stuff hidden... Ask the guys... As for the cosmic bong, it must be buried under the magazines, I haven't seen it in a while. Beware of GrumpySteen's link, grab a chair and get comfy. Enjoy your stay!

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____ I am going to THREAD-JACK my own Thread. So you can give a bunch of teens Laptops, loaded with software that can be activated remotely, take pictures of them in their homes and get away with that.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-08-17-laptop-spying_N.htm

____ I damn near got killed protecting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to have the Federal Prosicuters say that this families Fourth Amendment Rights were not violated. BS

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____ We Can Not win!!!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38990334

____ This creeped me out!!!!!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703904304575497903523187146.html

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MoMan: Do you want more news to creep you out. How about a California school RFID chipping kids. https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/09/13

As parents, we want to know our kids are safe, but it's a VERY slippery slope from looking out for the backs to full-on big brother.

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____ Just when I think that government can not get any stupidier, then some ___ ______ _________ ________ ________ __________ ________ Does this.

____ If a Parent went to their own Vet. and got a Dog chip and only had put on the chip the info that would be public, MAYBE But for the School District, NFW, NFW POOP, This is really screwy on all sides.

____ I am so freaking angry about this, I am having trouble keeping thoughts straight.

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quantumfluff wrote:
How about a California school RFID chipping kids. https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/09/13

Better explanation.

As described, the system isn't any more intrusive than roll-calls to verify attendance. I think it's a huge waste of money for a state with huge budget deficits, however, because doing roll-calls to verify attendance adds no cost and accomplishes the same thing.

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____ Or is it 1984 people tracking??????

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quote:
Originally posted by GrumpySteen:
quantumfluff wrote:
How about a California school RFID chipping kids. https://www.eff.org/press/archives/2010/09/13

Better explanation.

As described, the system isn't any more intrusive than roll-calls to verify attendance. I think it's a huge waste of money for a state with huge budget deficits, however, because doing roll-calls to verify attendance adds no cost and accomplishes the same thing.

Ok. I half-read the article. So this is supposed to replace roll-calls, in order to track attendance. Yet, later on, it says that the can't identify individual kids. Err... How do you know which ones are here, and which are not?

Problem two: it's going to be embedded in a jersey worn by the children. One child feel too hot, takes off his jersey, then wander away. How do they know? The jersey never left the premises!

(Good thing this is for preschooler; if they ever tried to apply this to school-age children, how long before one asks his friend to carry his chip in class, and skip school that day?)

Seriously... If it's a matter of tracking attendance that is too long to do by hand... Why not an iPhone (or whatever smart phone) app? Tick the children off, compilation is automated! Plus: no wares the child can lose/break! Say there is 10 caretaker in the preschool unit, and they use older generation/refurbished iPhones... 10*$100 = 1000, and that's it! I am sure one tracking array costs more than that...

But it would be too simple, I guess... [crazy]

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