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zesovietrussian
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Icon 1 posted September 09, 2009 11:16      Profile for zesovietrussian     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
A friend of mine is selling his old pre-santa rosa 2.16GHz core duo MBP for $350. The battery only lasts for about an hour and will need to be replaced, but everything else seems to be in good working order. Should I go for it, or is it too slow to run the current osx and newer apps?
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It'll run 10.6 perfectly well, and $350 seems like a great price. I have one, and the features of the newer ones I'm most jealous of are the design, trackpad and keyboard. The extra speed and 64-bit would be nice, but I'm more than happy with my current one.
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It is a very sweet deal, grab it.

iBook g4s are going for that.

That computer will last you a good long time.

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zesovietrussian
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Just did - I already have two (PC) laptops, but at that price, I just couldn't resist [Smile]

What's the maximum amount of RAM that can be installed? The information I've seen so far has been very conflicting, with some sites claiming it maxes out at 2 gigs, while other are saying they were able to install 4. Also, how hard would it be to swap out the hard drive? The one that came with it works just fine, but it's a bit on the slow side, and I have an unused 7200RPM drive sitting around somewhere.

EDIT: Just checked ebay, those prices are absolutely insane. How in the world are people expecting to get $1000 for a machine that's over three years old?

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congrats on a nice machine for a great price!
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I swapped the HD in mine. It's not too tricky; lots of screws and a nasty bit where you have to unhook the top case from the bottom but once you're inside it's fine. Just follow the guide (I used iFixit).

No idea about the maximum RAM. Maybe macmcseboy would know more.

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Core Duos maxed out at 2GB of PC5300 (DDR2) RAM. PC6400 will clock down to match the system bus.

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quote:
Originally posted by CW Smith:
Core Duos maxed out at 2GB of PC5300 (DDR2) RAM. PC6400 will clock down to match the system bus.

Actually...not entirely true.

Apple /says/ that it maxes out at 2, but in reality, you can take it up to ~3 1/3 GB. It's due to some defect in the Intel chipset, or Apple's mobo, that it cannot address more than that - I have 3 GB of RAM in my 2.0 GHz Core2Duo. I've read that you can throw 4 GB in, but practically speaking, it can't address much more than 3.

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EveryMac is a good reference for that type of question, every model listed, what kind of RAM they take, etc. etc ad nauseum.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by CW Smith:
Core Duos maxed out at 2GB of PC5300 (DDR2) RAM. PC6400 will clock down to match the system bus.

Actually...not entirely true.

Apple /says/ that it maxes out at 2, but in reality, you can take it up to ~3 1/3 GB. It's due to some defect in the Intel chipset, or Apple's mobo, that it cannot address more than that - I have 3 GB of RAM in my 2.0 GHz Core2Duo. I've read that you can throw 4 GB in, but practically speaking, it can't address much more than 3.

The first Core2s (like yours) will see the 3GB. The Core Solos and Core Duos (the-32 bit models like mine, not the 64-bit Core2s) will only see the 2GB. This is true whether I use 2x1GB or a 2GB stick. I've tried putting 3GB (1GB + 2GB) or 4GB (2x2GB) in and it still only sees the 2GB, if it boots at all.

Core2s like yours will see 3GB. If you put in 4GB (matched 2GB sticks), you will still only see 3G but the system will be able to interleave the RAM it can see. The jury is still out as to whether this improves the speed of the machine enough to justify the additional cost of the RAM.

Later Core2s (2007 and early 2008 models) could see 4GB according to Apple, but I've heard reports that some folks have been able to get the machine to see 6GB. I've not tried myself: 4GB sticks are too expensive to experiment with.

These are results I've seen in my own personal experience. If you have different results in your experience, then I stand corrected and will note it for the future.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
EveryMac is a good reference for that type of question, every model listed, what kind of RAM they take, etc. etc ad nauseum.

mactracker.ca is also an excellent resource.

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CW: My error - I didn't notice the lack of a '2' in the 'core duo.'

D'oh!

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