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JayP
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Icon 3 posted May 18, 2006 16:07      Profile for JayP     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
hi.... i have an interesting question for anyone who might be knowledgable. i'm wondering that if i have an alternate e-mail address which i can send myself a "password reset" link, when i get to the window where it asks for a new password, is there any possible sliver of code i might be able to use to bypass entering a new password and just keeping my old one? if there was such a pieces of code this would enable me to obviously be transferred directly to my inbox without even entering a new password. possible? anyone ever heard of this?? ~ JayP
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 16:28            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hang on ...? Hotmail lets you send a password reset link to a different address? So, I could give it your Hotmail address (let's presume I know it) and have the password reset link sent to my e-mail address, whereby I reset the password on your account and pwn it?

Surely not.

I did check their site and it does appear to do a password reset, so I'd love to know how on earth they expect that to work in a secure way.

To answer your question, if you know what the old password is, why do you need to reset it?

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 16:35      Profile for JayP     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
yes, this is one of the ways you can reset your Hotmail password besides a "secret word". i would just like to be able to access my account this way sometimes but i don't want to create a new password. i mean, logically if i have access to the alternate e-mail address then why not be able to access my account directly this way without having to create a new password? fair enough, isn't it? i just don't want to "reset" it. [ohwell]
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 16:42            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I really, really don't follow.

i would just like to be able to access my account this way sometimes ...

You want to be able to access your account in what way, exactly? If you know your Hotmail password and can log into it, what's the problem?

yes, this is one of the ways you can reset your Hotmail password ...

I presume then that you specified this previous address at the time of creating the Hotmail account? (Otherwise, how else do they know it's you?)

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 16:52      Profile for JayP     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
hey buddy, i didn't ask for a drill on it, i asked whether or not it was possible not to have to be obligated to create a new password. i believe that is a valid enough question, so if you don't know i'd rather not debate it. thank you.
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Icon 2 posted May 18, 2006 16:57            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I can't imagine that your question has a sensible answer as it simply makes utterly no sense at all. There is NO POINT generating a password reset action if you have no desire to reset it nor any problems logging in to Hotmail normally. Why you'd want to be doing this on any sort of routine basis I have no idea. What would happen if you typed in the same password again on such a page, I have no idea and I have absolutely no intention to go try it. Nor I imagine does anyone else here.

You're probably heading for a candidacy for this charming little page.

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 17:49      Profile for JayP     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
some people just don't know when to quit. your obviously two bricks short of a full load.
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 18:11      Profile for GrumpySteen     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Someone's a few bricks short of a full load, but uilleann's not the one trying to use a reset password function to do something other than reset a password...

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Icon 4 posted May 18, 2006 18:20      Profile for JayP     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Let me spell it out again, you freaking morons. My inquiry is if there is a way I might be able to access my Hotmail account via my alternate e-mail address option without having to create a new password! DUH! Is that so difficult to go figure? jeeezus. I DO have access to my alternate e-mail address and i'm trying to be able to access my Hotmail account directly *that way* (without having to create a new password). Basically, i'm *simply* looking for a way to not have to "reset" my password when i get to the 'entering of the new password' point. Now, would you happen to know if this is at all possible? Maybe a sliver of code I could perhaps enter into the "new password" boxes to bypass it?? thanks, any help would be much appreciated. And if you don't know then just shut up! good god.... ~ JP
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 18:21      Profile for TMBWITW,PB     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JayP:
Let me spell it out again, you freaking morons.

Way to endear yourself when asking for help. [Roll Eyes]

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 18:24            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
LOL steen!

JayP, I am terribly sorry but I don't think you're going to get unpaid help from people you accuse of being freaking morons.

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Icon 11 posted May 18, 2006 18:30      Profile for JayP     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Help? From you people so far?? haha So far all i've seen is nothing but rhetorical badgering. Get a clue! If you don't have the answer then whats the point? Just *shut* up!
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 18:33      Profile for alfrin     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JayP:
Help? From you people so far?? haha So far all i've seen is nothing but rhetorical badgering. Get a clue! If you don't have the answer then whats the point? Just *shut* up!

Well, let me be the first to show you the door out of Geek Culture
This is only for you, everyone else you don't need to click it.

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Icon 2 posted May 18, 2006 18:34            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
It's generally considered wise to change your passwords regularly, so think of a new one (in case this madcap scheme doesn't work) and go try it! Sheesh, why do you need to ask us if something so simple will work or not when it's a few clicks away from you solving it without requiring us to nanny and hand-hold you along.
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 18:42      Profile for TMBWITW,PB     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by alfrin:
quote:
Originally posted by JayP:
Help? From you people so far?? haha So far all i've seen is nothing but rhetorical badgering. Get a clue! If you don't have the answer then whats the point? Just *shut* up!

Well, let me be the first to show you the door out of Geek Culture
This is only for you, everyone else you don't need to click it.

Sometimes when wandering the internet I have to remind myself that there are things out there you can't un-see. [cry baby]

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The first time I saw that I felt sick. This time I was pretty much ambivalent to it. Is that a bad sign?
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 18:57      Profile for maia     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Perhaps he wants to get into someone else's account without them knowing, and thus does not want to change the password. Really, people.

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Icon 14 posted May 18, 2006 19:03      Profile for JayP     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thank *You*, Maia! wooohoooo we have a winner!! [thumbsup] [Applause]
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 19:24            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
What? It's not like I didn't spot that potential vulnerability in the first place, hence my remarks in my original reply. (Granted, not that precise scenario Maia mentions but close enough). The fact that you repeatedly refused to respond to my comments did make me suspicious about the legitimacy of your request (and apparently, rightly so), although I would still be surprised if even Microsoft were stupid enough to let you do what you're suggesting. If they are, even more reason why I am better off without one of their accounts.
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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 21:06      Profile for TMBWITW,PB     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JayP:
Thank *You*, Maia! wooohoooo we have a winner!! [thumbsup] [Applause]

And this is supposed to help your case?

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 22:52      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by alfrin:
quote:
Originally posted by JayP:
Help? From you people so far?? haha So far all i've seen is nothing but rhetorical badgering. Get a clue! If you don't have the answer then whats the point? Just *shut* up!

Well, let me be the first to show you the door out of Geek Culture
This is only for you, everyone else you don't need to click it.

Which now begs the real question. What's worse, that ^^ or goatse?

/me shudders

Edit: yeah, like anyone's going to help this rude stranger how to hack someone else's e-mail. [Roll Eyes]

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Icon 1 posted May 18, 2006 23:24      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Sure, JayP, I'll help you.
But as you can tell, these requests are not taken well at GC, so it's best to email me with the details of what you're trying to do, and I'll send you instructions.
My email address is [email protected]

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Icon 3 posted May 19, 2006 00:21      Profile for JayP     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
uhhh.... its my own e-mail address dipwad (@fbi.gov)
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Icon 1 posted May 19, 2006 07:20      Profile for quantumfluff     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JayP logically if i have access to the alternate e-mail address then why not be able to access my account directly this way without having to create a new password?
Nope, it doesn't follow. As an evil sysadmin I can peek into other people's mail at my company. If I know their hotmail account and they use the office account as the backup, I could generate a reset, sniff their mail, click through their reset link without resetting their password and then be grant access to their hotmail account.

Why don't you just install a keylogger on their machine if you want to steal someones mail?

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Has anyone noticed that our little script kiddie wanna-be here has listed himself as a network specialist in his profile? I nearly wet myself laughing when I saw that.

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