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Rhonwyyn

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Icon 1 posted March 03, 2006 23:20      Profile for Rhonwyyn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
My mother brought this question home from work and the answer to it has plagued my brother, so I'll pose the question to you:

If you call a sheep's tail a leg, how many legs does it have?

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Icon 1 posted March 03, 2006 23:26      Profile for Erbo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
If you call a sheep's tail a leg, how many legs does it have?

Four legs. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one.

(The original of this is attributed to Abraham Lincoln. He used a dog rather than a sheep, though.)

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Depends what the "it" refers to. I would suggest the answer is none- the tail has no legs.
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One.

'<begin semantical argumant>
Regardless of what you call its tail, a sheep only has one small stubby one. This is simply the argument of "what is in a name." Calling the sheeps tail a leg, you must call it's legs something else because they are different. It doesn't matter what it is called Their is one stubby thing near the anus and four things it stands on. You can't add apples and oranges by defining them as the same when they are not.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
You can't add apples and oranges by defining them as the same when they are not.

Apparently you are not aware of recent research in this area:

Apples and Oranges -- A Comparison
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Conclusions
Not only was this comparison easy to make, but it is apparent from the figure that apples and oranges are very similar. Thus, it would appear that the comparing apples and oranges defense should no longer be considered valid. This is a somewhat startling revelation. It can be anticipated to have a dramatic effect on the strategies used in arguments and discussions in the future.

Comparing apples and oranges: a randomized prospective study
quote:
This article, certain to become the classic in the field, clearly demonstrates that apples and oranges are not only comparable; indeed they are quite similar. The admonition “Let's not compare apples with oranges” should be replaced immediately with a more appropriate expression such as “Let's not compare walnuts with elephants” or “Let's not compare tumour necrosis factor with linguini.”


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quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
You can't add apples and oranges by defining them as the same when they are not.

You haven't spent enough time around mathematicians. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
You can't add apples and oranges by defining them as the same when they are not.

You haven't spent enough time around mathematicians. [Wink]
I'll add to that: just define apples as a fruits, oranges as fruits (which they are), and add fruits. Then you can add apples and oranges.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
You can't add apples and oranges by defining them as the same when they are not.

You haven't spent enough time around mathematicians. [Wink]
But can you PROVE that apples and oranges are not the same? [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka: You can't add apples and oranges by defining them as the same when they are not.
Yet oddly, the Bush administration does that all the time.
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quote:
Originally posted by Geordie:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
You can't add apples and oranges by defining them as the same when they are not.

Apparently you are not aware of recent research in this area:

Apples and Oranges -- A Comparison
quote:
Conclusions
Not only was this comparison easy to make, but it is apparent from the figure that apples and oranges are very similar. Thus, it would appear that the comparing apples and oranges defense should no longer be considered valid. This is a somewhat startling revelation. It can be anticipated to have a dramatic effect on the strategies used in arguments and discussions in the future.

Comparing apples and oranges: a randomized prospective study
quote:
This article, certain to become the classic in the field, clearly demonstrates that apples and oranges are not only comparable; indeed they are quite similar. The admonition “Let's not compare apples with oranges” should be replaced immediately with a more appropriate expression such as “Let's not compare walnuts with elephants” or “Let's not compare tumour necrosis factor with linguini.”

But similar isn't the same [Wink] Two identical twins aren't the same person...

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quote:
Originally posted by Geordie:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
You can't add apples and oranges by defining them as the same when they are not.

Apparently you are not aware of recent research in this area:

Apples and Oranges -- A Comparison
quote:
Conclusions
Not only was this comparison easy to make, but it is apparent from the figure that apples and oranges are very similar. Thus, it would appear that the comparing apples and oranges defense should no longer be considered valid. This is a somewhat startling revelation. It can be anticipated to have a dramatic effect on the strategies used in arguments and discussions in the future.

Comparing apples and oranges: a randomized prospective study
quote:
This article, certain to become the classic in the field, clearly demonstrates that apples and oranges are not only comparable; indeed they are quite similar. The admonition “Let's not compare apples with oranges” should be replaced immediately with a more appropriate expression such as “Let's not compare walnuts with elephants” or “Let's not compare tumour necrosis factor with linguini.”

But similar isn't the same [Wink] Identical twins aren't the same person...

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quote:
Originally posted by niniel:
But similar isn't the same [Wink] Identical twins aren't the same person...

Technically no object is the same as any other object. We just use arbitrary identifiers to categorize them as same or different depending upon the meaning that we create at the moment of observation.

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Three. The answer is three.

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Steen's channeling Spungo?! [Eek!]

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5. Now shut up with your hypothesizing.

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