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Mac D
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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 10:22      Profile for Mac D     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Does anyone know of a good place to get the components for a Notebook? I would rather make my own then buy a prefab one. I would need the shell, monitor, motherboard that kind of thing. You can find the HD's and RAM anyplace. All I can every find is desktop components.

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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 10:55      Profile for Stereo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I'm pretty much out of my league here, so take whatever follows with as a heavy dose of salt as needed.

I don't think you really build a notebook from the ground up. Your best course would be to buy a decent one, then upgrade it. The reason is, notbooks being so small (when compared with desktops), the space has to be measured to the milimeter, and many components are built to fit one particular design, the motherboard being one of those. So unless you find a biggish notebook case, chances are, if you find the components, you won't be able to fit them all in the case.

Now again, I could be wrong, and would love to learn it is indeed feasible...

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Icon 2 posted February 07, 2006 10:59      Profile for Cap'n Vic     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You'd have to be fucking mental to do this. It will cost you probably 5 times the price to build one rather than buy one.

Its like buying a $15,000 car or building it one piece at a time for $90,000.

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Icon 10 posted February 07, 2006 11:15      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
ha ha!

It would be cool to see someone take a 30" monitor and hinge it to a motherboard and attach the works to a car battery. [Big Grin]

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Icon 7 posted February 07, 2006 11:22      Profile for CloneArmyCommander     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
ha ha!

It would be cool to see someone take a 30" monitor and hinge it to a motherboard and attach the works to a car battery. [Big Grin]

Hmmmmm. . . I wonder if there is a way to actually make that work [Big Grin] . Maybe it could be a GeekCulture project, have people donate the little parts and try to make it work [Big Grin] .

That would be worth seeing [Big Grin] . Could build it up in one of those old large plastic suitcases [Big Grin] . Carrying it around might be somewhat of a challenge, but you would certainly get some exorcise lugging it around [Big Grin] .

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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 11:47      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Actually, it's been a dream of mine for awhile to build a briefcase computer - something with a full size keyboard, decent battery, and proper screen. However, I simply don't have the time nor resources to construct such a thing. Awhile back, I was thinking of building a mini-ITX machine as a travelling workstation for client visits... but as soon as the Mac mini came out, I bought that -- it's just about everything I could have hoped for! I /have/ used it for client visits, and it's worked pretty damn well. [Big Grin]

Vic is right, though I'll be a tad more tactful with my words about it. Buy an iBook. [Smile]

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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 11:50      Profile for Mac D     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I do like a challenge.

I have an old notbook computer the monitor works. It's older originally came with Win 95. The monitor I think is eaither 11in or 12in. It has a CD-ROM drive 4x that I can't seem to get working. I could use that case but was thinking I wanted a larger screen. The battery does not hold a charge. I got it free from someone that didn't know what to do with it. But compared to my iBook the case is deep. This could be a starting point and just upgrade the Motherboard with something designed to fit a small new notebook. After that everything else except the CD-ROM would fall into place. I could find one of thoes on e-bay possibly. That and I would want to have a wireless card in it. I can take out the floppy drive. I havn't used one of thoes in years. One problem I can think of with that is finding a way to get the ports to line up.

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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 11:52      Profile for shriver     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
In general I would agree, building a notebook from scratch would not be worth it, at least not yet.

A few weeks ago, I came across the concept of whitebox notebooks. They come without key components like processor, HDD, RAM, etc. Apparently the concept is growing a little among hobbyists.

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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 13:17      Profile for Ugurcan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I predict that your greatest challenge will be the heat. CPU's inside generate lots of heat and you'll have to figure out an effective way to cool them.

The main problem is that there is no industrial standard when it comes to notebooks. Battery voltages, mainboard design even lcd connections differ from brand to brand and model to model..

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Mac D
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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 13:23      Profile for Mac D     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I think this sounds like a good challenge. I'll do it. I'm going to find a way to do this and keep every one here updated. After I start on it I'll start a post with an update on my progress and also try to get advise from every one here.

Project Frankin-book

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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 14:25      Profile for Grummash     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Mac D:

I wish you the best of luck, but my advice is:

If you are going to build a laptop, it will help if you have a big lap. [Razz] [Big Grin]

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Mac D
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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 14:37      Profile for Mac D     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I'll work on it on a desk. I'm moving in 2 weeks and will be getting my large desk out of storage. It's one that is about 7 feet long and 3 feet deep then it has the little holes in the back for cords. I think it was originally designed for some industrial stuff. But I love it I can have multiple projects at the same time and I put screws on the back so I could mount the surge protectors so no having to crawl under to plug stuff in. The hight is also ajustable.

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Mac D
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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 17:31      Profile for Mac D     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
You'd have to be fucking mental to do this. It will cost you probably 5 times the price to build one rather than buy one.

Its like buying a $15,000 car or building it one piece at a time for $90,000.

Cap'n Vic it's not nice to call your mom mental

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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 19:08      Profile for zesovietrussian     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Perhaps you should take a look at something like this - you won't really be building it piece by piece, but at least you'll have lots of options when it comes to components.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
You'd have to be fucking mental to do this. It will cost you probably 5 times the price to build one rather than buy one.

Its like buying a $15,000 car or building it one piece at a time for $90,000.

Cap'n Vic it's not nice to call your mom mental
Oh, puh-lease come back when you can put togeter a real mom joke. Like this:

Your mom is so ugly they push her face into dough to make gorilla cookies.

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Your mom is so ugly her mom had to be drunk to breast feed her.

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Your mom is so poor when she goes to KFC, she has to lick other people's fingers!

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Icon 1 posted February 07, 2006 19:34      Profile for GrumpySteen     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Snaggy wrote:
ha ha!

It would be cool to see someone take a 30" monitor and hinge it to a motherboard and attach the works to a car battery. [Big Grin]


Not quite that bad, but close

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quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
Snaggy wrote:
ha ha!

It would be cool to see someone take a 30" monitor and hinge it to a motherboard and attach the works to a car battery. [Big Grin]


Not quite that bad, but close

That's a kind of cool idea. Though if I were going to do that kind of thing, it'd be with some kind of 2U rack, oriented like an artist's portfolio. Just take a 1U server, and team it up with one of those 1U rollout Display/Keyboard/Mouse-Trackball-Touchpad devices. (Just so long as it's not the Dell unit I have - I /loathe/ the trackball-keyboard it comes with (the keys are poorly layed out, and the trackball is irritating).

My other thought w.r.t. Snaggy's idea is to mount a thin LCD panel on the side panel of a G5. [Big Grin] Mind you, those things are fscking *heavy!*

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I used to build computers in the holidays for RM.

Whilst each desktop was built from components, they got the laptops shipped pretty much whole, and just stuck in RAM and a processor. If it isn't a good idea for a computer company to build laptops, it probably isn't for you!

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hey, i got a (disassembled) 12 in G3 iBook that has a busted logic board, but everything is cool other than that. It's yours. Feel free to PM me.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
That's a kind of cool idea. Though if I were going to do that kind of thing, it'd be with some kind of 2U rack, oriented like an artist's portfolio. Just take a 1U server, and team it up with one of those 1U rollout Display/Keyboard/Mouse-Trackball-Touchpad devices.

That'd be kind of expensive...an EpiCenter CenterView (that 1U rackmount display/keyboard/touchpad you mentioned...Aspen Systems sells them as part of clusters) goes for around $1600, looks like. Add a 1U server and rack enclosure (probably one of those portable racks that musicians use for their gear), and you're talking lotsa bucks. And you wouldn't be able to expand the server much more than you would a notebook...1U chassis normally have 3-4 drive bays and space for one PCI expansion card. (On the other hand, most server motherboards that you'd put in a 1U chassis have lots of built-in stuff like Ethernet, video, and perhaps SCSI in addition to IDE and/or SATA...but the video wouldn't be anything to write home about.)
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http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/09/the-macmini-portable/
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quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/09/the-macmini-portable/

Dude, I so want to build that.

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