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zesovietrussian
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Icon 1 posted December 08, 2005 12:28      Profile for zesovietrussian     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
As you no doubt have guessed from the title, my old IBM Deskstar 60GXP hard drive went through the standard "whirr whirr whirr croak" routine and took a whole lot of data along for a ride. The worst part is, the damn thing won't even spin up now, meaning I can't run any data recovery utilities. Is there any way to at least make it power on, so I can try to copy whatever's left on it to another drive? I have about three years worth of photos and quite a few mp3s on that drive, and it would be way beyond awesome if I can get at least some of that stuff recovered.
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Icon 1 posted December 08, 2005 13:58      Profile for magefile     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Put it in a ziplock bag and seal it *tightly*, with as little air in it as possible. Put it in your freezer overnight, then try it again. It might not work; if it does, it won't be for long, so be ready to move everything off of it fast.

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Icon 1 posted December 08, 2005 19:45      Profile for -ct-   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by magefile:
Put it in a ziplock bag and seal it *tightly*, with as little air in it as possible. Put it in your freezer overnight, then try it again. It might not work; if it does, it won't be for long, so be ready to move everything off of it fast.

while this is a very slight possibility of working for some drives in a few situations, sometimes once in a while - it's probably not gonna work for a deathstar drive

you see, these drives are made of GLASS (with a magnetic substrate)
making them frozen and then applying power will likely only help to shatter the platters as soon as they spin up, assuming they're not cracked and broken already which is the usual problem with them in the 1st place

i've literally opened some of these drives up and found nothing but sand after they crash and ppl try to do w/e they can to get them working

chuck it in the dumpster, and go buy a good WD drive after having learned a lesson

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zesovietrussian
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Icon 1 posted December 08, 2005 20:58      Profile for zesovietrussian     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
No dice with the freezer trick, unfortunately. Oh well, time for Mr Drive to meet Mr Hammer...
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quote:
Originally posted by -ct-:
you see, these drives are made of GLASS (with a magnetic substrate)
making them frozen and then applying power will likely only help to shatter the platters as soon as they spin up, assuming they're not cracked and broken already which is the usual problem with them in the 1st place

GLASS?!?!?!?!? No wonder we've had such problems with them...the original drives in Phoenix (the Electric Minds server) were Deskstars, but we had such problems with them that I replaced them with Maxtors. Those lasted much longer. Now, for about the last year, we've been running on WD drives, which have also been reliable.

I got news awhile back about a class-action suit against IBM over the Deskstar thing...

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Icon 10 posted December 09, 2005 08:39      Profile for The real Stealth   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I hate to say it but Call the CIA tell them that you think someone was performing criminal activities on the drive and that you need a dump of the information to be sure...they can rebuild the platters and scan the data off of them with an electron microscope. this will possibly get you your info back...That is provided that A.) They doit, & B.) you havent been performing the criminal activities yourself.

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dp004i _________________Now that you have tried the cold treatment try placing the drive in a warm spot but not over boiling temps. for awhile and try again, if it spins up you win if not, well you know the answer.

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zesovietrussian
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Icon 1 posted December 09, 2005 20:43      Profile for zesovietrussian     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
All right, now that I've returned from the company christmas party (which turned out to be nothing bt a giant drinking contest) after having one too many drinks, it's time to give that piece of junk a proper burial. Now, where did I put my hammer?...

PS: Grammar/spelling nazis, here's your chance to shine.

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Icon 1 posted December 09, 2005 22:37      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dp004i:
All right, now that I've returned from the company christmas party (which turned out to be nothing bt a giant drinking contest) after having one too many drinks, it's time to give that piece of junk a proper burial. Now, where did I put my hammer?...

PS: Grammar/spelling nazis, here's your chance to shine.

Funny....you really don't appear to have done much wrong. Only one typo, and the slightest of punctuation deviation. ;P

Simply amazing - a good typist whilst drunk. [Big Grin]

Then again, I admit feeling a bit proud to have successfully talked tech with someone while a tad 'cheery.' I think that'd be a great interview technique - get someone mildly sloshed, and see if they can still talk the talk - if you know what you're talking about while pissed, you're the real deal. [Big Grin] (Or an expert BSer.)

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zesovietrussian
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Icon 1 posted December 09, 2005 23:09      Profile for zesovietrussian     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by dp004i:
All right, now that I've returned from the company christmas party (which turned out to be nothing bt a giant drinking contest) after having one too many drinks, it's time to give that piece of junk a proper burial. Now, where did I put my hammer?...

PS: Grammar/spelling nazis, here's your chance to shine.

Funny....you really don't appear to have done much wrong. Only one typo, and the slightest of punctuation deviation. ;P

Simply amazing - a good typist whilst drunk. [Big Grin]

Then again, I admit feeling a bit proud to have successfully talked tech with someone while a tad 'cheery.' I think that'd be a great interview technique - get someone mildly sloshed, and see if they can still talk the talk - if you know what you're talking about while pissed, you're the real deal. [Big Grin] (Or an expert BSer.)

In soviet russia, ze vodka drrrinks you! Luckily, I was one of the few who stayed fairly late and didn't get completely shitfaced, meaning people will be asking me what they did there, not the other way around.
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zesovietrussian
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Icon 1 posted December 10, 2005 08:41      Profile for zesovietrussian     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
All efforts to bring the drive back to life failed, it's been declared officially dead and given a proper burial and the bottom of a garbage can. The good part is, some of the mp3s were also on my ipod, and I can always shoot more pictures of ugly buildings, ships, sunsets and whatnot... Most of them were downright crappy anyway, so good riddance.

The moral of the story: if you still have an IBM deathstar in your computer, do yourself a favor and toss it as soon as you can - it's only a matter of time until it dies on you.

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Icon 1 posted December 10, 2005 10:03      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The better moral to the story...don't kill me for saying it, but:

Backup, backup, backup!

I have my digital pictures backed up in 3 places. I'd be quite upset if they were to disappear off the face of the earth.

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