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Rhonwyyn

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Icon 1 posted July 15, 2005 21:32      Profile for Rhonwyyn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Now that I finally own a Mac, I wish I would've paid more attention to the discussions about programs for the Macintosh.

I have the 500MHz PowerBook (Pismo) with 1 Gig RAM and 100 Gig HD. That's a lot of space for lots of music or digital art or whatever. What programs do you like to use? Which would you recommend for someone running Tiger? Any programs I should stay away from?

(Until September I only have dial-up, so if I can't get them now I'll get them later.)

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Icon 3 posted July 15, 2005 21:36      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
start with the JoT widgets. [Smile]

http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joystuff/widgets.html

Hope to make a Forum one some day too. [Smile]

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Safari is OK if you aren't on a dialup - if you are, FIrefox is a better bet.

I use AppleWorks 6 for all my light to medium duty productivity stuff, Keynote for presentations, and FileMaker for databases.

Probably best to stay away from Office if you can; if not, go with Office v.X as 2004 will be vvveeeeerrrrryyyy sssslllllooooowwww on your G3 (as in, take a coffee break while an app launches!). Or at least that's been my experience...

My creative-type apps (Photoshop 7, Quark 6.1, Dreamweaver 6, etc.) all run fine on a G3 but may require a little bit of patience in some scenarios.

And yes, of course, one of the JoT widgets is a must [Wink]


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Depends what you want to do Rhonwyyn,

But just for starters I'll name a few (mostly free) apps that might be of interest.

AppleWorks might be old and it might be a bit basic but it does cover all the starter bases (WP, spreadsheet, simple drawing prog, paintbox, card file style database.)

AbiWord is a free Microsoft Word clone and makes a good enough WP although I prefer Mariner Write (not free but not pricey) and they also do a spreadsheet (MarinerCalc) and you can buy their little office bundle reasonably (under 100 USD).

RagTime Solo is another free suite, including DTP, WP, Spreadsheet, Drawing etc. etc. I have it - but haven't actually used it - as it is free it can't hurt to give it a try and it does have a rather nice interactive intoduction/teaching mode.

DigiTools is a free set of 8 little tools and is rather nice.

Also worth a look is Stone Studio which is again not free but not *too* pricey and their new iMaginator photoshop type App looks nice.

Firefox and Thunderbird go without saying really - I like Safari and it is my 1st choice browser but some sites don't play nice so it is always good to have at least one other browser to hand and Firefox is my 2nd choice. Apple's Mail is a "good enough" client but I am not that enamoured with it (personally I use Entourage - yes it is MS - but I have to credit where it is due and I really like it. Then again I didn't have to buy it... I got it through work). So if I didn't have that I expect I'd use Thunderbird or Mail.

My big Apps are the Adobe Creative Suite (but that is BIG money) Photoshop Elements is good value and often free with digital cameras and worth considering.

Obviously the iLife stuff is good (although I haven't got the 05 set or Pages)

No doubt others will have a load of their own favourites to recommend too.

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I use Apple Mail and like it. iPhoto is fab too of course. Snak for IRC too. :-)

Multiple pasteboards are really handy. They remember the things you've "copied" so you can "paste" them again later. I currently use Butler (and strip it down to just the multiple pasteboard).

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The only thing I have to say that hasn't been said is that iChat won't let you use anything but AIM, .Mac, and Jabber (unless you use Jabber gateways, which are a pain to set up). I much prefer Adium for my IMing, and XChat Aqua for irc.

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Open Office.org for mac

It's still uses the X11 interface, but in my experience has worked fairly well for all things office-related.

DO NOT use NeoOffice/J, a port of open office for OS X written in Java. It's really....

really...

really....

slow.

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Don't forget the most X-cellent games at Strange Flavour. [thumbsup]
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If you have to tool around with graphics but can't justify buying Adobe's stuff, I suggest Graphic Converter (freeware). For games, Freevese offerings use a lot of my time. And Solitaire Till Dawn. And then some bigger ones (Civ III, The Sims, etc.)

Other than that, I too use Apple Works.

But what I can strongly suggest, is to go see for yourself here. You should find whatever your are looking for.

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Throw in another Vote for Adium. I also like BBEdit/TextWrangler, Firefox and TextEdit. GraphicConverter is fun. Ambrosia software makes awesome games. *looks in application folder*
OmniGraffle and OmniOutliner are pretty cool, and OmniWeb isn't bad either. (All have demos). believe it or not, Microsoft's Remote Desktop client isn't bad.. I use it at work so my old work PC running XP can run our bug tracking software while shoved under my desk with only an ethernet cable plugged into it, and I can control it from my little laptop. I wish i would actually let me reboot without going to a dos prompt and forcing it to, but other than that it saves me having to find a monitor to connect to the PC. Fugu is a great free FTP client. umm. yeah. enjoy the new toy [Smile] I like my little 12 inch, but I desperately wanted one of those black g3 powerbooks when they came out. they're just awesome machines.

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Another vote for Adium here, I use it and it's the stablest and fastest AIM client I've ever seen.

Firefox over Safari, any day.

MudWalker is a great MUD/MUSH/MOO client if you're into that sort of thing.

MPlayer and MovieTime are great lightweight programs for watching videos or DVDs.

Oh, and World Of Warcraft. It rules.

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Yeah, Adium is great - I would have to say that fact that libgaim is powering it helps out a whole lot. [Big Grin]

Personally, I think the M$ RDP Client sucks on OS X. rdesktop is *much* faster (www.rdesktop.org) - unfortunately, there is no especially "Mac friendly" way to run it...but I'm perfectly happy to use X11. [Smile] (Aside: You can probably shut down or reboot from Task Manager [right-click the taskbar]

P.S. Does anyone know of a good program to use to play WMV files on OS X? M$'s WMP for OS X really stinks, and I'd rather not use it - but I stumble on WMVs from time to time (like the frivolous links I posted the other day), and I'd like to be able to play them. It's probably better to play them on my Linux laptop with Xine. [Wink] The catch is that Xine uses the w32-codecs package, which is based on x86 code from M$, IIRC - there are no obvious codecs out there for PPC, AFAICT.

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quote:
P.S. Does anyone know of a good program to use to play WMV files on OS X? M$'s WMP for OS X really stinks, and I'd rather not use it - but I stumble on WMVs from time to time (like the frivolous links I posted the other day), and I'd like to be able to play them. It's probably better to play them on my Linux laptop with Xine. [Wink] The catch is that Xine uses the w32-codecs package, which is based on x86 code from M$, IIRC - there are no obvious codecs out there for PPC, AFAICT.
Video Lan Client, also known as VLC, will play anything that is playable, and it works great on Mac. [Link]
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If you like Civilization but you're a cheapskate like me, you can tide yourself over with the good freeware clone FreeCiv. It seems to be roughly equivalent to Civ II, with some changes to the effect of certain wonders. It also has some very nice reporting improvements over the commercial Civ II. No idea how it stacks up against Civ III, though. As I said, I'm a cheapskate.

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quote:
Originally posted by IbJmn:
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P.S. Does anyone know of a good program to use to play WMV files on OS X? M$'s WMP for OS X really stinks, and I'd rather not use it - but I stumble on WMVs from time to time (like the frivolous links I posted the other day), and I'd like to be able to play them. It's probably better to play them on my Linux laptop with Xine. [Wink] The catch is that Xine uses the w32-codecs package, which is based on x86 code from M$, IIRC - there are no obvious codecs out there for PPC, AFAICT.
Video Lan Client, also known as VLC, will play anything that is playable, and it works great on Mac. [Link]
Try again!
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html

I'm a Linux guy, remember? I already have VLC - it doesn't work for this purpose.

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quote:
P.S. Does anyone know of a good program to use to play WMV files on OS X? M$'s WMP for OS X really stinks, and I'd rather not use it - but I stumble on WMVs from time to time
I think mplayer wil play some, if not all .wmp's.
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Icon 1 posted July 18, 2005 14:30      Profile for Rhonwyyn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thanks for all of the suggestions!

I had been using iChat, but now I'm thinking that I really should try out Adium. I'll also check into installing VLC on the Mac just in case DVDplayer has problems. The Sony Vaio tower insists that InterActual doesn't have the codecs it needs to play DVDs. VLC has taken care of that problem. It's just slightly annoying to use (InterActual won't let me change the default player to VLC).

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quote:
Originally posted by littlefish:
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P.S. Does anyone know of a good program to use to play WMV files on OS X? M$'s WMP for OS X really stinks, and I'd rather not use it - but I stumble on WMVs from time to time
I think mplayer wil play some, if not all .wmp's.
I was thinking that, but I'm pretty sure it, like Xine, uses the x86 based win32 codecs to work.

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quote:
Originally posted by csk:
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Originally posted by littlefish:
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P.S. Does anyone know of a good program to use to play WMV files on OS X? M$'s WMP for OS X really stinks, and I'd rather not use it - but I stumble on WMVs from time to time
I think mplayer wil play some, if not all .wmp's.
I was thinking that, but I'm pretty sure it, like Xine, uses the x86 based win32 codecs to work.
*Correct*

It does not work at all for a rather humorous .WMV file I have laying about. :-/ Nor does VLC for that matter, which I installed awhile ago. Xine on my laptop (x86 [Celery]), OTOH, works like a charm. [Big Grin]

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