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Jonathan
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Icon 10 posted August 15, 2004 10:59      Profile for Jonathan   Author's Homepage         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I don't know what the lord of the root means, can someone tell me what it is from the non-nerds view?
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spungo
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Icon 1 posted August 15, 2004 11:20      Profile for spungo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Either your memory is shit, or you like asking the same question over and over again.

Try paying attention.

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I like how you incorporated Micro$oft into LOTR in your previous post Spungo.

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I've still not seen ANY of the Lord of the Rings movies.

Before I start getting flamed, read on. [Big Grin]

I read the first two books back in grade 8 or so. I did like them, quite a bit, but I don't remember them.

I've heard /so/ many people say "the book is better than the movie." not just about Tolkien's books, either, about every movie that was ever based on a book pretty much.

As such, I am going to read the entire trilogy end-to-end before I even consider watching the movies.

Thus far, I'm about 3/4's of the way through the first book, and it's pretty damned good. The first 150 pages or so was very boring though. The story of Bilbo's departure. Set up for Frodo's quest, etc.

For once I'll be able to see what all the fuss is about when people talk book vs. movie.

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Oh certainly, drunkennewfiemidget, you must see the movies. However, you are wise in reading the books first and the movies would negate the experience if seen first. The movies are,however, excellent cinematic triumphs and merit viewing.
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I still find myself wondering how they're going to portray a lot of the stories into movie though -- a vast majority of the book are thoughts, and descriptions. I know a picture's worth a thousand words, and at 30fps, that's a lot of words, but without the detailed description Tolkien gives of anything, each book could probably easily been taken from 500 to 150-200 pages.

That, and I sincerely hope there isn't as much singing in the movies as there is in the book. :|

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As long as you remember that a movie is not a book. I shake my head in despair at all those /. whingers who moan about all the changes made for the films - if you want the 100% real thing - read the feckin' book! It was much the same with Catch-22 - both were good, but for different reasons. You have to suspend what you know to really enjoy both.

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Ahh.. that would certainly help things.

I didn't know. I thought the books were adapted as closely as possible to the movies.

Who knows, I guess I'll learn after I'm done reading and actually watch them.

The books are quite good thus far.

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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
...I didn't know. I thought the books were adapted as closely as possible to the movies...

Hmmm, I hope you meant that the other way round. That you thought the movies were adapted as closely as possible to the books.

The movies are fantastic, in fact probably as true to the books as movies could get. But by reading the books first, you will notice "gaps" in the story, and wonder why isn't this person here, or why is this other person there, and why isn't this a scene in the movie. If they would have shown everything that could possibly have been shown from the books, the movies would have been at least twice as long. so it's probably best that they didn't try to put everything in.

It's good that you are reading the books first, since you should also get more out of the movies from your readings.

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Erm. Oops. That's absolutely what I meant. Typo, and no sense in correcting it now, since it's quoted the wrong way around. [Big Grin]
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Like you dnm I think I read the books years ago, I just can't remember. Cosmic bong perhaps? Truth be told I was always an avid reader. I think I have read easily a thousand books in my life time, if not more. So now certain stories run into each other.

edit: I did end up reading the trilogy (again?) recently and enjoyed it a lot.

As far as a comparison between book and film. It was as close as a film can really get. It is true that they did do some judicious "trimming" in the movie. However it was not so much that it detracted from the story. Unfortunately, you missed out on seeing them on the big screen which in my opinion is the best way to view the trilogy. I hate sitting in theatres for that long but visually a TV cannot do the movies justice.

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I've found that my htpc through a 9a60 into my 52" widescreen in the basement with the lights off gives me a better-than-theatre feel in most occasions.

Not only does it look better, I can eat candy for less than $4/box while I do it too!

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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Not only does it look better, I can eat candy for less than $4/box while I do it too!

And another advantage is that you can pause it and go to the loo during the "Is this the ending? No, is this the ending? No, is this the ending? ..." saga that finishes TROTK [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Stibbons:
And another advantage is that you can pause it and go to the loo during the "Is this the ending? No, is this the ending? No, is this the ending? ..." saga that finishes TROTK [Wink]

That's the change in a nutshell. If it doesn't have to do with the quest to destroy the One Ring, and even if it does but is unimportant, it's not in the movie. Usually that wasn't a big deal, especially for those people who had never read the books. But Return of the King goes on for quite a while after the destruction of Sauron, and the movie skips all of that, so when you expect the movie to end, it jumps to another "ending", and then, if I recall correctly, does that once or twice more. Quite confusing to those people who hadn't read the books.

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I'm betting that the whole multiple ending thing will be made more comprehensible in the extended edition, when they finally get around to releasing it. Not going to be until December now, so I've heard.

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