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I love my computer because it is a modern marvel of engineering and recycling.

It is a shuttle XPC that has to run topless, or crash from overheat.

She is putting out for 3 monitors, but I'll be doing 4 in March.

I suppose I love it so much, because it just works so well. It was a bargain computer ($600) two years ago when I built her, but she plays half life, and I can photoshop, Google Earth, and watch cartoons all at once. I just add to her when free things come along. Her videocard heatsink is wired together with tape, and her secondary videocard forgets to refresh every few minutes.

She isn't anything incredible, but she's really very special to me.

Lemmle, I love you.
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I had a Frankencomputer I did everything with [hearts] . Nothing fit together right, but everything worked together right [Big Grin] .

The floppy drive came from a computer that had a molded face plate, and I shoved it in there, but since it had a molded piece too, it stuck out. The CD-ROM also came from a computer with a molded piece, so it fit in awkwardly.

The network card, for some reason, had to be taken out and snapped back in any time the computer was moved around (that's still a mystery to me).

There were some other things. . . but those were the quirkiest parts of my computer [Big Grin] .

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ah those are the memories we end up cherishing.

I remember my first car... a 5 speed Jetta. The Alternator went Bad, and I didn't wnat to part with my car to get it fixed. so for a whole summer, I had to have my friends push start it.

But it was the best summer of my youth.

Now I am a bitter old man (23), and one day I will say "that was the best summer of my life. Now you Goddamn kids, get off my lawn."

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My mommy built my frankencomputer out of old parts of the computers from her office.

I like it because it's in the basement and most of it's memory is taken up by random photos that make me smile and songs. It has an internet connection too and that's all I need to be happy. Oh the nights spent whiling away the hours on newgrounds and listening to angry young white boys...

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quote:
Originally posted by MandysRad:
My mommy built my frankencomputer out of old parts of the computers from her office.

I like it because it's in the basement and most of it's memory is taken up by random photos that make me smile and songs. It has an internet connection too and that's all I need to be happy. Oh the nights spent whiling away the hours on newgrounds and listening to angry young white boys...

That's what it's all about [Big Grin] !

Mine was dual booted with Linux and Windows 98. There wasn't anything that I couldn't do. . . or at least for what I'm interested in (I couldn't do much gaming, but I'm not a gamer, so it wasn't a problem. . . it only had a 7GB hard drive).

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So many good memories. I rebuilt a 486dx 6years ago (2x512mb WD HDDs, VLB/ISA architechure... PC-DOS 6.3/Win 3.11, 1x3.5" FDD, 1x5.25"FDD) that was AWESOME (now thrown out). Also I have 2 PII 350s as servers, A soon to be resurected Compaq 4090 us for a server and a EMD A64 3400+/R5 as my current desktop.

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My first computer was an original bondi-blue iMac, 233Mhz with 96 Mb of memory.


Five years ago, in the eighth grade, I joined the 'computer programming club' at school. It turned out to just be scripting stupid little computer games, and since I was interested in something more, the guy there told me I might be interested in linux. So what did I do? I went home and tried to install debian (potato, methinks) on my iMac. Luckily, I managed to back up the harddrive before I installed debian, so I could restore my data later. I couldn't get X11 to work, and having had no previous experience with anything that advanced, I was forced to learn everything via the command-line. And now, I simply die when I can't have a shell in which to do my programming/administering/gaming (angband rocks my socks).

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quote:
Originally posted by nerdwithnofriends:
My first computer was an original bondi-blue iMac, 233Mhz with 96 Mb of memory.


Five years ago, in the eighth grade, I joined the 'computer programming club' at school. It turned out to just be scripting stupid little computer games, and since I was interested in something more, the guy there told me I might be interested in linux. So what did I do? I went home and tried to install debian (potato, methinks) on my iMac. Luckily, I managed to back up the harddrive before I installed debian, so I could restore my data later. I couldn't get X11 to work, and having had no previous experience with anything that advanced, I was forced to learn everything via the command-line. And now, I simply die when I can't have a shell in which to do my programming/administering/gaming (angband rocks my socks).

Something similar happened to me to make me learn to use command-line, except my desktop didn't install properly because I ran out of disk space.

I grew to love it because you do so many cool things with it, and sometimes it's quicker to work with than the desktop (it's tasks seem to have a higher priority).

Occasionally, I'll be on Windows and trying to code (I use gcc. . . I didn't want to bother with MS Visual C). So, I'll be working with MS-DOS, and forget where I'm at and try suspending jobs and use vim (I used to have a copy for MS-DOS, but wound up getting rid of it), and find commands such as "ls -la" don't work.

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you guys are cooler than me.

I stopped usning command line interface when windows 95 came out. Now I'm all about the copy paste.

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quote:
Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
Occasionally, I'll be on Windows and trying to code (I use gcc. . . I didn't want to bother with MS Visual C). So, I'll be working with MS-DOS, and forget where I'm at and try suspending jobs and use vim (I used to have a copy for MS-DOS, but wound up getting rid of it), and find commands such as "ls -la" don't work.

Cygwin is your friend.

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quote:
Originally posted by Spam:
ah those are the memories we end up cherishing.

I remember my first car... a 5 speed Jetta. The Alternator went Bad, and I didn't wnat to part with my car to get it fixed. so for a whole summer, I had to have my friends push start it.

But it was the best summer of my youth.

Now I am a bitter old man (23), and one day I will say "that was the best summer of my life. Now you Goddamn kids, get off my lawn."

A) My '63 Volkswagen Bug had a zapped generator. Push starting it alone in traffic in the Chicago area scared the hell out of me, but looking back, it makes for some funny stories to tell.

B) I was 19 and it was not the 'best' summer of my youth, but it was very memorable.

C) What are you waiting for? Tell those kids to get off your lawn now, while you're still young enough to offer them the thrill of a good chase.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
quote:
Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
Occasionally, I'll be on Windows and trying to code (I use gcc. . . I didn't want to bother with MS Visual C). So, I'll be working with MS-DOS, and forget where I'm at and try suspending jobs and use vim (I used to have a copy for MS-DOS, but wound up getting rid of it), and find commands such as "ls -la" don't work.

Cygwin is your friend.
unixkit-tiny is also quite handy, and doesn't need any installation. This thing has made me a very happy dragon. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
quote:
Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
Occasionally, I'll be on Windows and trying to code (I use gcc. . . I didn't want to bother with MS Visual C). So, I'll be working with MS-DOS, and forget where I'm at and try suspending jobs and use vim (I used to have a copy for MS-DOS, but wound up getting rid of it), and find commands such as "ls -la" don't work.

Cygwin is your friend.
Or if you've got plenty of RAM, run a full copy of Linux within VMWare player, which is free (as in beer). Google on using QEMU to set up the initial image, then just install Linux as you normally would.

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definitely cooler than me.

But fill me in. As a Slave to the GUI, what benefits would I get to using a command line interface?

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quote:
Originally posted by Spam:
definitely cooler than me.

But fill me in. As a Slave to the GUI, what benefits would I get to using a command line interface?

IMO, if you need to ask, probably none [Razz]

It's not so much a command line interface thing as a Unix philosophy thing. It's not the command line itself, but the fact that you can string a whole bunch of simple commands together to do powerful things really easily once you grasp how they work. Appeals to the "do it yourselfers", as you can get something to work exactly as you want it to.

However, I'd contend that there's enough software out there right now that there's probably a GUI equivalent for most command line tasks. So it really comes down to "I need to do semi complex task X, can I work out a way to script it via the command line?" versus "I need to do semi complex task X, someone must have encountered this before, has someone written a program to do this?"

Incidentally Linux does not imply command line necessarily. I'd still recommend my VMWare suggestion above, as Linux still has some of the best of breed software around in some areas, so it's worth tinkering with.

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quote:
Originally posted by csk:
It's not so much a command line interface thing as a Unix philosophy thing. It's not the command line itself, but the fact that you can string a whole bunch of simple commands together to do powerful things really easily once you grasp how they work. Appeals to the "do it yourselfers", as you can get something to work exactly as you want it to.

Hehehehe [Big Grin] . Stringing commands together [Big Grin] . It just flows naturally after a while.

cat file.ext | grep text - | sort -d | uniq

Hmmmmm. . . . I wonder how long you can allow a command to get and it still be practical.

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quote:
Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
It's not so much a command line interface thing as a Unix philosophy thing. It's not the command line itself, but the fact that you can string a whole bunch of simple commands together to do powerful things really easily once you grasp how they work. Appeals to the "do it yourselfers", as you can get something to work exactly as you want it to.

Hehehehe [Big Grin] . Stringing commands together [Big Grin] . It just flows naturally after a while.

cat file.ext | grep text - | sort -d | uniq

Hmmmmm. . . . I wonder how long you can allow a command to get and it still be practical.

It could get long, but at that point, you should really make a shell script to do the job. [Smile] (and/or use sed/awk)

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
It's not so much a command line interface thing as a Unix philosophy thing. It's not the command line itself, but the fact that you can string a whole bunch of simple commands together to do powerful things really easily once you grasp how they work. Appeals to the "do it yourselfers", as you can get something to work exactly as you want it to.

Hehehehe [Big Grin] . Stringing commands together [Big Grin] . It just flows naturally after a while.

cat file.ext | grep text - | sort -d | uniq

Hmmmmm. . . . I wonder how long you can allow a command to get and it still be practical.

It could get long, but at that point, you should really make a shell script to do the job. [Smile] (and/or use sed/awk)
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I wrote command lines all piped together that took up half a page on the standard linux console, and regular expressions in vim to make file changes that had the people standing around me going, ".. I don't know what the hell you just did."

It felt good getting that little ego boost.

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quote:
Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
cat file.ext | grep text - | sort -d | uniq

Just so you know, cat is for concatenation. You have demonstrated a Useless use of cat. Try "grep text file.ext | sort -d | uniq". It is one thing to use a useless cat in the privacy of ones own terminal (I know I do), but please don't do it in an example. [Wink]

EDIT: That sounded even more pedantic than I thought it would. I actually do believe there is more than one way to do it.

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So from what understand, command line interface can help reduce the burden of repetive tasks?

The only repetitive task I have to do right now is add ID3 Tags to my entire goddamned MP3 library.

There is a program called "music Brains Tagger" that I've used, and it works mostly, but there are several hundred that still need to be done manually.

the File name is accurate and consistent for all my files..

<artist name> - <song name>.mp3

Is there a way I could use a Comm. Line Int. to make this task less laborious?

I'm in windows XP :^\

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quote:
Originally posted by Geordie:
quote:
Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
cat file.ext | grep text - | sort -d | uniq

Just so you know, cat is for concatenation. You have demonstrated a Useless use of cat. Try "grep text file.ext | sort -d | uniq". It is one thing to use a useless cat in the privacy of ones own terminal (I know I do), but please don't do it in an example. [Wink]

EDIT: That sounded even more pedantic than I thought it would. I actually do believe there is more than one way to do it.

I know what the concatenation command is for [Wink] . I just wanted to strings several things together. Nobody was hurt by it [Wink] .

Fix
cat file1.ext file2.ext file3.ext; grep text file1.ext | sort -d | uniq > file4.ext

Better?

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quote:
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So from what understand, command line interface can help reduce the burden of repetive tasks?

The only repetitive task I have to do right now is add ID3 Tags to my entire goddamned MP3 library.

There is a program called "music Brains Tagger" that I've used, and it works mostly, but there are several hundred that still need to be done manually.

the File name is accurate and consistent for all my files..

<artist name> - <song name>.mp3

Is there a way I could use a Comm. Line Int. to make this task less laborious?

I'm in windows XP :^\

There's a little windows utility called "mp3 tag tools" that'll do it for you the point-and-click way. It parses the file name and populates the tags, according to a simple little template you set up. Sorry, don't have a link, you'll have to learn the mysteries of google yourself.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
quote:
Originally posted by Spam:
So from what understand, command line interface can help reduce the burden of repetive tasks?

The only repetitive task I have to do right now is add ID3 Tags to my entire goddamned MP3 library.

There is a program called "music Brains Tagger" that I've used, and it works mostly, but there are several hundred that still need to be done manually.

the File name is accurate and consistent for all my files..

<artist name> - <song name>.mp3

Is there a way I could use a Comm. Line Int. to make this task less laborious?

I'm in windows XP :^\

There's a little windows utility called "mp3 tag tools" that'll do it for you the point-and-click way. It parses the file name and populates the tags, according to a simple little template you set up. Sorry, don't have a link, you'll have to learn the mysteries of google yourself.
Whould this be it [Big Grin] ?
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quote:
Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
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Originally posted by Geordie:
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Originally posted by CloneArmyCommander:
cat file.ext | grep text - | sort -d | uniq

Just so you know, cat is for concatenation. You have demonstrated a Useless use of cat. Try "grep text file.ext | sort -d | uniq". It is one thing to use a useless cat in the privacy of ones own terminal (I know I do), but please don't do it in an example. [Wink]

EDIT: That sounded even more pedantic than I thought it would. I actually do believe there is more than one way to do it.

I know what the concatenation command is for [Wink] . I just wanted to strings several things together. Nobody was hurt by it [Wink] .

Fix
cat file1.ext file2.ext file3.ext; grep text file1.ext | sort -d | uniq > file4.ext

Better?

Hmm...

Do you actually know what the above command does? [Razz]

That will:
-Concatenate file1.ext, file2.exe, file3.ext
-Search for the string 'text' inside file1.exe

Take the concatenation of the 3 files, and the search results of the one file, and do a 'sort -d' on that.

Do a uniq of all of the above, and output that into file4.ext.

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to do this?
sort -du file{1,2,3}.exe > file4.ext

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quote:
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So from what understand, command line interface can help reduce the burden of repetive tasks?

Yes, that's sort of it. In fact the MP3 tagging thing was the perfect example of my reply before, a good task for a CLI, but someone's written a GUI thing to "scratch that itch". The only trouble is when you run across an itch that no one has scratched before, or the software to do it is too expensive etc...

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