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neoncode
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Icon 5 posted May 22, 2005 19:02      Profile for neoncode     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Tell me if it's any good, and suggestions welcomed...

motherboard: MSI 848P NEO

Grapics card: ATI RADEON 9600 (with 256MB of video RAM)

sound card: Creative sound blaster Audagy 2 ZS

processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.06 GHz (hyperthreading)

power: 500W PSU

fans:
4 system fans w/ blue neon lighting(one not lighting up though...)
1 CPU fans
2 on the PSU

storage:
SAMSUNG SP0411N(40GB)
WDC WD800BB-00CAA1(80GB)

disk drives:
x52 speed CD-ROM Drive
NEC DVD-RW(+&- I think)
Floppy drive(how quaint)

other:
512MB system RAM
2 cathode ray tube lights in the case
1 4mm thick perspex window
akasa fan controller(broken, the knobs on it light up wrong)

I biult this a year ago for just under 1000(GBP)
...well?

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Allan
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Icon 1 posted May 22, 2005 19:40      Profile for Allan     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve with this post? So you bought some components and stuck 'em in a case.

Maybe if you'd given reasons why you bought the stuff you did or talked about how you got around some technical difficulties that might be of interest to other system builders?

Generally the folks here either work with systems that would Destroy (yes that is with a capital d) your little desktop (or tower or whatever biscuit tin you've housed it in) or do extraordinary things with hardware any other sane person would put in a dumpster.

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Icon 1 posted May 22, 2005 20:46      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Dude, you realize your ____ just decreased by an significant measure when you tell us that you built an allegedly cool machine, and you have Five Hundred and Twelve Megabytes of RAM? Your video card has half of that for its memory, and I carry a whole 512 MB in my pocket all the time. [Razz] I'm also surprised at how small those hard drives are. HDs are rather large these days, for pretty small amounts of money. (For that matter, I have an 80 & a 40 in my 5 year old server.)

Seriously, I second Allan in being curious what the point of this post is.

So sayeth a dragon posting from his 366 MHz Celery laptop running Debian. [Big Grin] It works fine for my needs. [Smile]

(OTOH, the other systems I have access to... [Wink] )

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This reminds me very much of this weird cartoon I once saw;

Eunuch (to a horse): my penis is bigger than yours

Horse: ...

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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 03:35      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
So sayeth a dragon posting from his 366 MHz Celery laptop running Debian.
Ha! My work machine PwnZ your ass!
650Mhz PIII baby!
256meg RAM
16 Gig HD
48X CD
??x CD-R/RW
Floppy
Zip100
Suck on my stats!

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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 03:54      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
neoncode _______When I retired a year ago I was using a HP work station built to run Unigraphics (CAD,CAM,CAE) it was only a 180 Mhz but it also had a Gig of Vidio Ram, that was so I could program Machine tool paths to make large metal forming dies, The die designer beside me had to use a high end PC and he had a very bad case of workstation envy because many of the featers I could use were disabled on the PC because of lack of power. I tried to do a tool path on his machine once and never tried again too many features did not work as well as on the workstation. Just my two cents!!!

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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 08:06      Profile for neoncode     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Allan:
...little desktop (or tower or whatever biscuit tin you've housed it in)

Actualy it's in a tower.

And i was just wondering realy what you think I shoud focus on with upgrades and the like, and I know it's a little system that can be Destroyed(with a capital D) by most of yours. I was just looking for some input...

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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 13:04      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by littlefish:
quote:
So sayeth a dragon posting from his 366 MHz Celery laptop running Debian.
Ha! My work machine PwnZ your ass!
650Mhz PIII baby!
256meg RAM
16 Gig HD
48X CD
??x CD-R/RW
Floppy
Zip100
Suck on my stats!

Sorry mate, but at work, I've got:
P4/2.7 GHz
512 MB RAM
40 GB HD
50x CD-ROM
32x8x52 (or summat like that) CD-RW (CD-R/RW/ROM speeds, roughly)
Floppy
USB keys - no zips these days
GigE w/802.1Q

[Big Grin] [Razz]

(and my home server is a 667 PIII/512 MB/80+40 GB HDs/8x4x32 CD-RW/52x CD-ROM/Floppy/3c905C-TX, also running Debian)

And then there's my Mini... [Big Grin]

But I don't /really/ care about such numbers - I'm posting again from my laptop... I love this thing. [Smile]

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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 13:40      Profile for drunkennewfiemidget     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
IMNSHO, MSI is absolute JUNK. I will never buy an MSI created device again.
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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 13:49      Profile for neoncode     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
IMNSHO, MSI is absolute JUNK. I will never buy an MSI created device again.

Any particular reason for that statement?

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Someone mention biscuit tin? [Big Grin]

http://www.beebmaster.co.uk/6502Second.html

Gotta love it, so damn cool. Funniest thing I have ever seen anyone do with a co-processor unit!

(it might help one to know that these external expansion units when properly cased were affectionately known as cheese wedges)

MSI motherboards are junk? Probably explains why my PC doesn't work [Smile]

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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 15:50      Profile for littlefish   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Sorry mate, but at work, I've got:
P4/2.7 GHz
512 MB RAM
40 GB HD
50x CD-ROM
32x8x52 (or summat like that) CD-RW (CD-R/RW/ROM speeds, roughly)
Floppy
USB keys - no zips these days
GigE w/802.1Q

Damn you to hell! I suppose you've got one of those fancy minis too with all the wireless gubbins and a DVD burner don't you?

The thing that really annoys me with my work machine is that it only has USB 1 and it takes hours to back up my data onto my ipod. That and the fact that it crashes lots.

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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 16:25      Profile for Allan     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by neoncode:
quote:
Originally posted by Allan:
...little desktop (or tower or whatever biscuit tin you've housed it in)

Actualy it's in a tower.

And i was just wondering realy what you think I shoud focus on with upgrades and the like, and I know it's a little system that can be Destroyed(with a capital D) by most of yours. I was just looking for some input...

Isn't it obvious that you should focus on the bottlenecks your current application set is experiencing? Is your system creating swap files regularly? add more memory... running out of disk space? get a larger hard drive... but mostly if it aint broke don't try to fix it.
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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 16:31      Profile for CommanderShroom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Do you have problems doing what you need it to do?

Here are my specs.

HP VLI8
PIII 933
20 GB Drive
512MB RAM
4X CD Burner

Runs Linux (my flavor of the month is Kubuntu) and does what I want it to do. Some web work, some tweaking with programs, and the usual day in and out stuff.

The only thing I am thinking is that I will upgrade to a bigger HD. A couple of 250 GB's sound nice.

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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2005 17:03      Profile for neoncode     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by CommanderShroom:
Do you have problems doing what you need it to do?


Well at the moment there is not much of a problem. My score in 3Dmark05 was just over 1000 so that was my main consearn as in would I whould be able to play future games at a reasonable frame rate without useing the lowest grapical settings. I'm running winXP home with service pack 2 by the way.

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quote:
Originally posted by neoncode:
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
IMNSHO, MSI is absolute JUNK. I will never buy an MSI created device again.

Any particular reason for that statement?
Because in my time as a computer tech, as well as owning computers, and fixing them for my customers, I've never seen any brand of anything fail as often as I've seen MSI.
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quote:
Originally posted by littlefish:
The thing that really annoys me with my work machine is that it only has USB 1 and it takes hours to back up my data onto my ipod. That and the fact that it crashes lots.

If they'll let you install an expansion card, then just get a PCI USB2 card. I've got one at home, it's a great improvement over USB1. Or a fireware card if your ipod does that would work, too.

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If they'll let you install an expansion card, then just get a PCI USB2 card. I've got one at home, it's a great improvement over USB1. Or a fireware card if your ipod does that would work, too.
Yep, that would be nice, but I don't trust the tech support, and I can't afford to be without the machine for any length of time. It's also got secure screws on it so I can't sneak anything in under cover of darkness.
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Because in my time as a computer tech, as well as owning computers, and fixing them for my customers, I've never seen any brand of anything fail as often as I've seen MSI.

I will second that. I have an MSI board sitting around the house that I may bring into service, just for the built in firewire. But I am hesistant because of their spotty reliability, poor drivers/support. And I can usually get better performance out of older BX-2 boards than some MSI PIII-4 boards I have used.

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Hell. I built a machine that will chew on that one a year and a half ago.

I am less than impressed.

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.......and where did you get a 3 Gig processor 18 months ago.

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Icon 1 posted June 06, 2005 13:37      Profile for KingVance   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
They have been out for quite some time now. Fastest you could touch when I bought my 3ghz was a 3.2.

And those had been around for a few months.

http://endian.net/details.asp?ItemNo=3425

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I take that back...there were the XT editions...or whatever they were called...the ones with insane amounts of cache.
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That's way of an overkill for a web browsing/word processing system, but nowhere powerful enough to be a good gaming system. That Radeon 9600 won't get you too far, even though it has 256 megs of RAM - that's nothing but a marketing gimmick on a card this slow. Sell it while it's still worth something and put the money towards a Geforce 6600GT - you can get one for around $150 nowadays, and it will absolutely destroy your 9600. The chipset is somewhat dated; you should've gone with something that supports dual-channel memory - Intel 865 and whatnot. Get another half gig of RAM if you want to play games like Doom 3 or Half-Life 2. Shiny fans and lights were nothing but a waste of money - I would've saved it for a better case/PSU if I were you. That's about it, I suppose, sorry for sounding so negative.
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I'd up the RAM and HD if I were you. MHz is not that important to me, however, I have half a terabyte of storage and 4 gigs of RAM combined in all my systems (yeah I know, not enough, but I can't afford any more storage, however much I need it. I'm archiving stuff to DVD's and tapes. Ehh.)
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