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Tech Angel
Member # 908
 - posted November 16, 2008 11:28
As you may know, the new trailer for the next Star Trek movie got its first public showing Friday during the opening of the new James Bond flick, “Quantum of Solace”. According to the official movie site, it will be available online tomorrow (11/17) after Bond has had his opening weekend box office run. (I read an article saying that they expected many people would flock to the Bond film for the sole purpose of being the first to see the Star Trek trailer -- go figure!)

As expected, bootleg copies shot at the theater have already made it online: here, here, here, and here. (I've listed several since sometimes they're taken down.)

As an "original Trekkie" who watched each episode of the '66-'69 series during its first run, I'm justifiably concerned. Quoting some of the more colorful comments I’ve read online:

“...this cast looks less like ’Star Trek: The Original Series’ and more like ’Star Trek: The Orange County’.”
“...the redesigned technology looks like it was all designed by Apple. I’m sorry, but the inside of the Enterprise is not an iMac.”
"...pre-teen Kirk driving a [270-year-old] Corvette = the new 'Nuked the Fridge'. My suspension of disbelief meter just melted."

I'll reserve judgment until I see the entire movie and not just a highly-edited trailer, but still...this is clearly not your grandmother's Star Trek.
 
Ashitaka
Member # 4924
 - posted November 16, 2008 12:15
looks less like science fiction and more like a war movie with lasers and spaceships.

Lasers and spaceships do not make something science fiction.


I hope we get to see more than just a bra in a Star Trek Film.
 
TMBWITW,PB
Member # 1734
 - posted November 16, 2008 13:26
I've heard talk about this being a "reimagining" of Star Trek rather than just another movie in the series, similar to a comparison between the new Battlestar Galactica and the old series. If that's true then die hard fans will probably never be satisfied, but it sounds like it will be an interesting ride. I can't wait to see it.
 
macmcseboy
Member # 1232
 - posted November 16, 2008 14:01
As a longtime fan of the franchise... Yes i do have reservations. But i will let my 9,50$ CAD prove speak for itself as to weather it was wasted or well spent come the summer.

One thing we all need to consider, this is someone playing in Roddenberry's sandbox. Gene did say he's like to see what someone else would do with it. If it flops, then no more will be made... if it's OK or sucessful, 2 more are in the pipe.
 
Tech Angel
Member # 908
 - posted November 16, 2008 15:09
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
I've heard talk about this being a "reimagining" of Star Trek rather than just another movie in the series, similar to a comparison between the new Battlestar Galactica and the old series.

I have no problem with a reimagining, and Battlestar Galactica is an excellent example. They took an otherwise shallow action-adventure series (but with an intriguing premise) and fleshed it out into a serious, thought-provoking drama that frequently makes social and political commentary. Looking at this Star Trek trailer, though, I'm apprehensive they may be doing just the opposite -- turning a TV-and-movie franchise which strived to be intelligent science fiction into something like "Top Gun Goes to Space", and emphasizing special effects over plot.

The second problem, if indeed J.J. Abrahms has approached this as a reimagining, is that he'll be bucking a pretty extensive and well-established mythology. Whereas the original BSG comprised only about two dozen TV episodes, any reimagining of Star Trek would have to run counter to an intricately-woven and (largely) consistent "future history" established over five TV series (running 26 seasons total) and ten movies. That's a pretty daunting task.

I, too, am really looking forward to the movie, but am worried about how much of the existing Star Trek world I'll be asked to "forget" as a result.
 
Snaggy
Member # 123
 - posted November 16, 2008 16:16
ooo shiny! I'm looking forward to this, and I am ready to suspend "real" Star Trek belief for a couple of hours just to see Gabriel Gray as Spock.

wow... nice to see it's not Kirk taking off the shirt, and least in this clip. [Big Grin]
 
TMBWITW,PB
Member # 1734
 - posted November 16, 2008 16:26
quote:
Originally posted by Tech Angel:
Looking at this Star Trek trailer, though, I'm apprehensive they may be doing just the opposite -- turning a TV-and-movie franchise which strived to be intelligent science fiction into something like "Top Gun Goes to Space", and emphasizing special effects over plot.

I'll be disappointed if that's what happens, but not too surprised especially given that the last two Star Trek movies within the franchise.
 
Mister Boo
Member # 1419
 - posted November 16, 2008 16:57
Looks like a fun ride to me. If you didn't give up Star Trek after Vyger and Persis Khambatta in Star Trek The Motion Picture, you have no grounds to complain about this. And don't get me started on Generations. Of course, I'm one of the old-timers who can't watch the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica( Starbuck is not a chick, and Cylons are chromed). Get off my lawn you Hooligans!!! [evil]
 
macmcseboy
Member # 1232
 - posted November 16, 2008 17:27
quote:
Originally posted by Mister Boo:
I'm one of the old-timers who can't watch the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica( Starbuck is not a chick, and Cylons are chromed). Get off my lawn you Hooligans!!! [evil]

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!!!

LARSON SOLD OUT, HATCH SOLD OUT TOO.
 
GrumpySteen
Member # 170
 - posted November 16, 2008 17:58
It doesn't matter what they do with young Kirk... a lot of people will hate it just as much as people hated what Lucas did with young Vader. The only question is whether you'll let you annoyance at the character not being the perfect representation of what you think Kirk should be ruin the rest of the movie for you.

Despite the faults of each one, I've enjoyed all of the Star Trek series and films. Some more than others, but there isn't a single one that I would refuse to watch again. I'm fairly sure I'll think the same of this movie as well.
 
TMBWITW,PB
Member # 1734
 - posted November 16, 2008 18:22
I would definitely refuse to watch Nemesis. Yech. [devil wand]

All the others I can enjoy at least to some degree although I definitely prefer some (Wrath of Khan, The Undiscovered Country, First Contact) over others (The Final Frontier, Insurrection)
 
macmcseboy
Member # 1232
 - posted November 16, 2008 18:33
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
I would definitely refuse to watch Nemesis. Yech. [devil wand]

All the others I can enjoy at least to some degree although I definitely prefer some (Wrath of Khan, The Undiscovered Country, First Contact) over others (The Final Frontier, Insurrection)

TFF does not exist. However, Shatners' "Quest For God" does.
 
zorgon
Member # 546
 - posted November 17, 2008 11:45
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
I would definitely refuse to watch Nemesis. Yech. [devil wand]

All the others I can enjoy at least to some degree although I definitely prefer some (Wrath of Khan, The Undiscovered Country, First Contact) over others (The Final Frontier, Insurrection)

I'd agree with this, except I've got a soft spot for Insurrection on account of the fact that Donna Murphy is hotter than the surface of Sirius in that one ... [blush]
 
Snaggy
Member # 123
 - posted November 17, 2008 12:22
courtesy of @Rickmacmerc... it's now online... [Big Grin]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/large_trailer2.html
 
macmcseboy
Member # 1232
 - posted November 17, 2008 13:19
I'd like to inform everyone. I am the lucky winner of an actual 35mm print of said trailer! [Eek!] [Big Grin]
 
LoneWolf
Member # 4966
 - posted November 17, 2008 13:45
No mini-skirt uniforms!?!
 
macmcseboy
Member # 1232
 - posted November 17, 2008 14:37
quote:
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
No mini-skirt uniforms!?!

You've not seen Uhura pix have you
 
MTB Babe
Member # 2297
 - posted November 18, 2008 11:15
Wow. I won't reiterate the concerns posted above, which I share, but I must admit seeing a young Spock gave me goosebumps. I'm really hoping not to be disappointed.. [Geek]
 
GMx
Member # 1523
 - posted November 18, 2008 14:09
As long as Berman & Braga have nothing to do with it, it might be good.

And MTB Babe- it's good to have your ass around here again! [Big Grin] (I had to be the first to say it)
 
macmcseboy
Member # 1232
 - posted November 18, 2008 16:27
GMx, Berman and Bragga have been pink-slipped. This is paramount trying to stoke the fire in a last ditch effor to re-envigorate the series..... re-imagining.

Yes there are fears. But I will reiterate. This is someone else in Roddenberry's sandbox.

If you all want an opinion to follow, look to Rod Roddenberry or Dorothy Fontana. Hell, Ask the den-mother of fandom, Bjo Trimble her opinion.
 
Cap'n Vic
Member # 1477
 - posted November 18, 2008 21:27
quote:
Originally posted by GMx:

And MTB Babe- it's good to have your ass around here again! [Big Grin] (I had to be the first to say it)

*cough* Second actually. [Razz]
 
Titanium Warrior
Member # 1885
 - posted November 18, 2008 22:36
As long as it doesn't have whales in it, everything with the Star Trek name on it is great [Big Grin]
 
tweety
Member # 3890
 - posted November 19, 2008 11:19
I wonder what Majel Barrett has to think about the movie.
 




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