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Member # 199
 - posted October 01, 2004 01:23
OK, I should know better than to post anything more about Marillion here, what with the ribbing I took the last couple of times I mentioned them. However, I'm going to be a good sport and give spungo, Cap'n Vic, and The Famous Druid one more shot at me, by posting my impressions of the Marillion show last night.

We got to the Fox Theatre about an hour ahead of the doors opening, but there was already a crowd gathering. After picking up our will-call tickets (which, strangely enough, we had to do in the basement of a record store across the street), we hung out waiting for the show. It was a pretty mixed crowd, but Pamela noticed, "They all just assumed that, because you're here, you're cool." Many of them were wearing Marillion T-shirts, though I saw one guy with a Megatokyo T-shirt. We also heard exactly how far people had come to see this show; one couple had driven all the way from Bozeman, Montana (that's TEN HOURS!). Another couple we talked to were from Central Wyoming.

Finally, we got inside around 8:15. The Fox Theatre is a standing-room-only venue, so we picked out a good spot to stand, along the railing separating the lower area near the stage from the area higher up and farther out. After standing there for awhile and chitchatting with another couple (including looking at each other's cat pictures and going "awww!"), the show got under way.

First up was John Wesley, who's kind of hard to
classify. Some of the music in his 45-minute set was as progressive as anything Marillion plays, some of it had a more folkie feel, and some sounded a little like Fleetwood Mac (the good Fleetwood Mac, not the overprocessed crap they play these days). He was armed with an acoustic guitar and a collection of stomp boxes
and other electronics on the floor in front of him, and he used it all to his advantage. After the first song, I thought, "Okay, this guy's good." After what I thought was the last song of his set, I thought, "Okay, this guy's really good," and was comparing his guitar
skills favorably to Lindsey Buckingham's. Then...he started playing a riff that sounded oddly familiar, and asked the audience to clap and keep time. I thought, "If I didn't know any better, I'd swear he was doing Pink Floyd's 'Run Like Hell.'" Then he started playing the familiar guitar part, and, sure enough, he was doing Pink Floyd's "Run Like Hell"! Needless to say,
everyone in the audience knew it, and loved his
rendition. By the time it was over, I began to believe David Gilmour might just have a run for his money on his hands.

Short break for the roadies to get things lined up on stage, and then...out comes Marillion! The four instrument players came out first, to start playing the instrumental opener of their first number. I must say, they were different from what I expected.

Pamela, of course, likes bassist Pete Trewavas. He was the most animated of the band members, jumping around with his bass, occasionally doing the "clap your hands" gesture for the audience. Steve Rothery, the lead guitarist, well, has gained weight. A LOT of weight. But it didn't seem to affect his playing any; frequently, he was playing with his eyes closed, communing with the music on stage. Keyboardist Mark Kelly looked like a total badass, with his shaved head and sleeveless T-shirt; he was also responsible for various special effects. Drummer Ian Mosely was mostly visible by his shock of white hair behind the kit; however, his playing reminded me vividly of what producer Hugh Padgham said once about live drums being the loudest instrument in a room.

Finally, Steve Hogarth came out, proper in a gray suit jacket, striped pants, white shirt, and black tie (he would ditch the tie and jacket later). He's still got all his hair, though! He had a keyboard at the front of the stage he would use on several songs, and played acoustic guitar on a couple of songs, too.

The band started off by playing most of the tracks from the new album, Marbles, in order (omitting only "Fantastic Place"). Naturally, the crowd got more animated on the fater-tempo songs like "You're Gone," "Don't Hurt Yourself," and "Drilling Holes." Afterwards, Hogarth took the time to introduce the other band members, then said, "See you later," and walked off the stage, followed by the rest of the band. The crowd must have thought they were cheering for an encore at that point, but Rothery came back out and said, "Sorry about the delay there, we're going to play
some more songs for you." The other band members then came back out, except for Hogarth, and started in on the evocative instrumental intro to Brave's "The Bridge." At the right time, Hogarth came out to sing it, and segued from that straight into the powerful "Living With The Big Lie." The band then launched into three more songs from their not-quite-so-recent albums, before leaving the stage again...then coming back for a real encore: "Cover My Eyes" (on which Hogarth urged the audience to sing the chorus: "Paa-aa-aa-a-ain! and Hea-a-aven!") and, to close the show, the sublime "Easter."

Hogarth actually looked surprised at the wild reception he and the band got. This was the first time they'd played in Colorado; perhaps this'll encourage them to come back.

On our way out, we picked up two copies of John
Wesley's latest album, Ten, a collection of his biggest hits, and got them signed by Wesley himself. When I got up to get mine signed, I told him, "You're as good as the game, man. That was a great set." I meant every word.

My comment to Pamela as we walked down the street,
heading for the lot where I'd parked the car: "That was right."

Friends, I have stood in the presence of genius this evening, and I am happy.
Member # 1089
 - posted October 01, 2004 02:48
Never heard of'em.
Swiss Mercenary
Member # 330
 - posted October 01, 2004 03:18
The Famous Druid
Member # 1769
 - posted October 01, 2004 05:04
Is that a US marillion (100,000,000,000,000) or a British marillion (100,000,000,000,000,000) ?
Cap'n Vic
Member # 1477
 - posted October 01, 2004 09:47
Erbo, that post is utter bullshit. You know how I know that?

You told us all here (and I am too lazy to search right now) that Marillion had a Fish for a lead singer, which itself sound like bullshit, but does put a whole different slant on the 'Warm wet circles' tune. [Razz]
Member # 1452
 - posted October 01, 2004 16:45
what kind of fish is marillion?
Member # 199
 - posted October 03, 2004 01:29
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
Erbo, that post is utter bullshit. You know how I know that?

You told us all here (and I am too lazy to search right now) that Marillion had a Fish for a lead singer, which itself sound like bullshit, but does put a whole different slant on the 'Warm wet circles' tune. [Razz]

They did have Fish for a lead singer, but he left the band in 1988, and Steve Hogarth joined shortly thereafter. This family tree will clarify matters.

Anyway, you, spungo, and The Famous Druid have all now gotten a chance to bust my chops, so I'm going to call this "mission accomplished." And I think I'll fire up the MP3 of "Cover My Eyes." Pa-a-aa-a-aain! Hea-a-aa-ven!
Cap'n Vic
Member # 1477
 - posted October 03, 2004 10:09
I still have a hard time beleiving that a fish can sing out of water. Or did the rest of the band have gills and/or scuba gear and actually perform under water?

Just curious. Are 'Fish' and "Billy Bass" the same person?

Member # 199
 - posted October 04, 2004 09:57
Heh, that would be cool if one could program a "Big Mouth Billy Bass" to sing selections from Clutching at Straws. Usually, it just sings "Take Me To The River" or something like that...

But, as I'm sure you know if you're quoting from "Incommunicado," Fish's real name is Derek William Dick, and he was given that nickname by his landlady, who thought he wallowed around in the bath like a fish.

(Incidentally, Steve Hogarth is frequently known as "h"; he's released a solo album under that name.)
The Famous Druid
Member # 1769
 - posted October 04, 2004 14:16
Originally posted by Erbo:
Heh, that would be cool if one could program a "Big Mouth Billy Bass" to sing selections from Clutching at Straws.

seek and ye shall find [Smile]
Member # 2950
 - posted October 06, 2004 15:24
I've been ribbed over this before as a newbie (I guess there's some long running Marillion based gag going on here with Spungo, Capt Vic, etc)

But as a *HUGE* Marillion fan from the the Fish (with full face makeup) days I have to say...

FISH RULES! (Derek W. Dick rules don't really have the same impact methinks..)

To be fair I know nothing about the post Fish Marillion so I cannot make any comments on their music/lyrics etc. but to me Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws are possibly 2 of the most seminal albums ever - on a par with Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon or Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell...

Of course, for me, some of their earliest works, will still shine untarnished for ever (Grendel, Three Boats Down from the Candy, Market Square Heroes...)

Yes, I am an old fart and some of it is no doubt the Proustian conjuring of times gone... Still

Saw them live at: Ipswich (Script for a Jester's Tear Tour), Hammersmith (Fugazi Tour - I think), Birmingham NEC (Misplaced Childhood Tour), Aylesbury (Fan Club only "Christmas" gig), Milton Keynes Bowl (Garden Party "festival" style gig that they organised and headlined...) Only band I ever bothered to see more than once on stage (inc. U2 - saw them on the War Tour - incredible, but they went a bit rubbish after that...)

Flame on dudes...

P.S. for those who care -

Bernie was lead singer in a lesser known french metal/rock band called Trust. Big fans of and friends with AC/DC in the Bonn Scott era (apparently they were drinking with him the night before he died...)
Maybe not the most world altering band ever, but his strongly socialist ideals spoke to me at the time (early '80s) whether I agreed with them or not... Interestingly enough their albums were available in French and English. Jimmy Percy of Sham 69 being responsible for much of their English translation/transilteration. Tracks and albums vary - some are near direct translations, some (notably the third) are pure pop/rock overlaid on the original music. I personally have 3/6 albums (which I believe to be the full canon) Repression/Repression, Marche ou Creve/Savage & Judgement Dernier/Man's Trap (the least linked of the set - the English lyrics appear to have no resemblance to the French, unlike the other two...) [note: accents omitted to avoid – type probs..]

My French doesn't really extend much beyond the "schoolboy" but it is good enough to recognise the similarities/differences in the lyrics of Eng./Fr. versions of the first two albums...

My current sig comes from La Grande Illusion/Use Your Vote [Smile]
Swiss Mercenary
Member # 330
 - posted October 07, 2004 03:37
Trust - Antisociale! Still heard quite often in these here parts.

Ex drummer of Trust: Nicko 'half man, half biscuit' McBrain.

I am sure I have some of their albums lying around somewhere.

(P.S. I also saw Marillion for the 'Script' and 'Fugazi' tours, but in St.Gallen and Lausanne)
Member # 966
 - posted October 07, 2004 03:53
Trust - Antisociale! Still heard quite often in these here parts.

Ex drummer of Trust: Nicko 'half man, half biscuit' McBrain.

I am sure I have some of their albums lying around somewhere.

(P.S. I also saw Marillion for the 'Script' and 'Fugazi' tours, but in St.Gallen and Lausanne)

Okay, now I'm confused. Is that the Nicko McBrain who is in Iron Maiden? Or is he in Half Man Half Biscuit? Or is that just a description of the man? (I met their scottish promoter at the Edinburgh festival by the way). Dean Friedman was also playing and apparently they met up and enjoyed each others company. (HMHB have a song 'Bastard son of Dean Friedman')
Swiss Mercenary
Member # 330
 - posted October 07, 2004 16:50
Indeed it is the Nicko McBrain who is now in Maiden, he used to play in Trust.

The 'Half man, half biscuit' quote is a direct quote from Bruce 'Hallowed be thy Name' Dickinson during a concert.
It just happens that I have seen nearly every Maiden tour since 'Piece of Mind' and I still enjoy every minute of their concerts (10+ and counting).
Cap'n Vic
Member # 1477
 - posted October 07, 2004 17:52
My first concert was Iron Maiden with Twisted Sister opening. Both bands ROCKED!

Nicko McBrain: Flattest nose in rock 'n' Roll
Member # 1941
 - posted October 07, 2004 18:07
Iron Maiden? Excellent!
Swiss Mercenary
Member # 330
 - posted October 07, 2004 18:33
Last time I saw them:
Merriweather Post Pavillion, MD.
July 2003
Iron Maiden

That rocked.

Drunk, listening to Marylin Manson at 3.30am now that is depressing.

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