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Snaggy
Member # 123
 - posted September 21, 2004 23:08
I confess.

I want those pirated versions of Star Wars. You know the ones, the ORIGINAL versions of the Trilogy. Ones made from the Laserdisks, ones without Hayden Christensen's Ghost, or Greedo shooting first, or that Jabba the Hut in the hanger scene. I don't need no fancy robots or extra scenes or filler outside the windows of Cloud City... just give me the movies I saw when I was a kid!!!

OH, and btw, I liked the ORIGINAL explosion of the Death Star better. [Mad]

I even went so far as to google for these pirate treasures, and came up with this bootleg review site. There was drool all over my desk as I read about these tantilizing Asian Delights. [Geek]

Does anyone have these precious things? Does anyone know of them? Is this some secret Star Wars Cult that I am not cool enough to join? Am I a bad person for lusting after them? [Razz]

It gets worse folks.

I went out and bought the official Star Wars Trilogy DVDs today.

I am a sucker for punishment.

*sigh* [ohwell]
 
Bibo
Member # 1959
 - posted September 21, 2004 23:19
I have the THX widescreen LaserDiscs, but I don't have a DV camera or converter to get them onto DVD [Frown] I need to find someone with a DV camera I can borrow. Well that and more hard drive space!

I need a Dual layer DVD burner now or I'll end up with multi-discs for each film like the LaserDiscs if I want to maintain the best quality.

Please note I am not offering to bootleg these as that is illegal!

I will be working inside a Best Buy all weekend, I think I will be able to resist picking up the DVDs.
 
The Famous Druid
Member # 1769
 - posted September 21, 2004 23:46
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
Is this some secret Star Wars Cult that I am not cool enough to join?

<black-beret-and-goatee-and-light-sabre>
Yes.
</black-beret-and-goatee-and-light-sabre>

<obi-wan>
You cannot win George, if you edit me out, my bootleg self will become far more numerous than you can imagine
</obi-wan>
 
knightwhosaysNI
Member # 2079
 - posted September 22, 2004 06:00
That illistration of princess leia is mysteriously hot-looking

I'm kind of stuck buying a legit copy, Like that time I wanted the original version of "the italian Job"
 
DigitalBill
Member # 646
 - posted September 22, 2004 07:14
quote:
Originally posted by Bibo:
I have the THX widescreen LaserDiscs, but I don't have a DV camera or converter to get them onto DVD [Frown] I need to find someone with a DV camera I can borrow. Well that and more hard drive space!

I need a Dual layer DVD burner now or I'll end up with multi-discs for each film like the LaserDiscs if I want to maintain the best quality.

Actually, a cam or telecine converter really won't do the conversion justice. What you really need is an AV bridge, like the Dazzle or Pyro, that has Audio, Video (and usually S-Video - superior to composite) inputs and FireWire (1394) out.

That said, I've never been able to make a capture from analog to DVD that looks as clean as a commercial DVD.

=DB

...of course a dual-layer, blueray Superdrive in a PowerBook G5 would help make a better DVD...
 
Bibo
Member # 1959
 - posted September 22, 2004 09:21
quote:
Originally posted by DigitalBill:
quote:
Originally posted by Bibo:
I have the THX widescreen LaserDiscs, but I don't have a DV camera or converter to get them onto DVD [Frown] I need to find someone with a DV camera I can borrow. Well that and more hard drive space!

I need a Dual layer DVD burner now or I'll end up with multi-discs for each film like the LaserDiscs if I want to maintain the best quality.

Actually, a cam or telecine converter really won't do the conversion justice. What you really need is an AV bridge, like the Dazzle or Pyro, that has Audio, Video (and usually S-Video - superior to composite) inputs and FireWire (1394) out.

That said, I've never been able to make a capture from analog to DVD that looks as clean as a commercial DVD.

=DB

...of course a dual-layer, blueray Superdrive in a PowerBook G5 would help make a better DVD...

A DV cam has A/V inputs, I was not going to point a camera at my TV. And by converter I meant such a device as the Dazzle. At this point I just can't justify the cost of such a purchase.
 
-ct-
Member # 209
 - posted September 22, 2004 11:54
arrrrrh, i have me sources, if you be needin' anytin'

[Wink]
 
Grey_girl
Member # 2172
 - posted September 22, 2004 12:11
If you're copying your own copies of the VHS onto DVD for your own use, it's not bootlegging, is it? [Wink]
 
Bibo
Member # 1959
 - posted September 22, 2004 12:40
quote:
Originally posted by Grey_girl:
If you're copying your own copies of the VHS onto DVD for your own use, it's not bootlegging, is it? [Wink]

Nope, personal backups are legal. Same thing as putting Albums & CDs on tapes back in the day to listen to them on a walkman. And today your iPod.
 
littlefish
Member # 966
 - posted September 22, 2004 15:21
The legality of backing up depends on your locality. It's technically illegal in Australia and the UK.
 
csk
Member # 1941
 - posted September 22, 2004 15:38
quote:
Originally posted by littlefish:
The legality of backing up depends on your locality. It's technically illegal in Australia and the UK.

Unless it's software. Defining a SW DVD as software might be a bit of a stretch, though.
 
dragonman97
Member # 780
 - posted September 22, 2004 16:21
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
quote:
Originally posted by littlefish:
The legality of backing up depends on your locality. It's technically illegal in Australia and the UK.

Unless it's software. Defining a SW DVD as software might be a bit of a stretch, though.
But a DVD is a special form of software, is it not? I mean, it has a menuing system, and based on various inputs, it will output different things. The data is stored digitally, and uh...I forget where I'm going with this.

http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Asoftware

Some of that stuff could surely be construed in such a manner [Razz] .

It's definitely time for me to eat, and get bloody spyware/virus infected computers out of my mind...
 
Bibo
Member # 1959
 - posted September 22, 2004 21:51
Hmm this guy has done all the converting, since I own the LaserDiscs this could be considered legal backup right?

Original Trilogy on DVD
 
csk
Member # 1941
 - posted September 22, 2004 22:14
Well, I'd consider it legal backup, not sure if US copyright law supports me or not.

My SW trilogy set should be in my letterbox when I get home, I'll have to give it a spin tonight. [Beard of Peter Gabriel!]
 
fanboy_uk
Member # 2132
 - posted September 23, 2004 01:49
By using the software analogy, can the following not be considered true...

I buy a piece of software say an upgrade from Mac OS 8.1 to Mac OS X.1.
I find it is crap and thus downgrade to OS 9.2. A piece of software that I never truly had.

Can we not use the same arguement for the DVDs? I buy the official trilogy on DVD but 'install' an older version in my DVD player when I want to watch it.

Not sure if that will stand up in court or not though.
 
csk
Member # 1941
 - posted September 23, 2004 02:08
But in Bibo's case, he owns the laser discs which the "unofficial" DVDs were ripped from. Thus it's pretty much a format shift (although there may be extra copyrighted material on the DVD that wasn't on the LD, I guess).

Actually, he's probably on legally shaky ground, given that the dot.com which were allowing you to download mp3s once you inserted a CD with a matching checksum to the original went under due to legal contest. Morally, well, that's a different story.

As for those of us trilogy DVD owners, your argument sounds pretty much right on the money, as it's a "downgrade", in a sense.
 
MacManKrisK
Member # 955
 - posted September 23, 2004 08:13
quote:
Originally posted by Bibo:
A DV cam has A/V inputs, I was not going to point a camera at my TV.

Actually, only really good (read: expensive) DV cameras have A/V inputs, most, like my Samsung SCD23, have out but not in. [ohwell]
 
Macabus
Member # 2984
 - posted September 30, 2004 22:50
About a year ago, I was working with my brother to convert his LD copy of the trilogy to DVD. It was a project that never got finished-but now(after seeing the DVD's lucas made), I think I just might end up finishing that project.
 




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