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DerekCurrie
Member # 29769
 - posted October 23, 2010 13:52
Sorry kids, but the oddball predictions of dead technologies due to the new MacBook Air are either silly or outright wrong. CD and DVD media are dead? How about we meet up here again in a year so I can have a good laugh an your lack of insight skills.
 
MacManKrisK
Member # 955
 - posted October 23, 2010 16:17
They said the same thing about the floppy disk.
 
TheMoMan
Member # 1659
 - posted October 23, 2010 17:10
____ Lexan, is very good for motorcycle windshields!!!
 
The Famous Druid
Member # 1769
 - posted October 23, 2010 17:12
A couple of years ago I'd have said "You still need CD/DVD to make backups" - but with external hard drives now costing about 7 cents per gigabyte, I haven't done a backup to DVD in a long time.
 
Xanthine
Member # 736
 - posted October 23, 2010 17:23
Be careful about that. External HDs can and do fail.
 
dragonman97
Member # 780
 - posted October 23, 2010 21:49
That's why I have more than one external HD. [Smile]

Also, my most important data is usually backed up on more than one kind of media...but I've pretty much forgotten about writable discs and moved to flash storage - either USB keys or SD.

At work, I went straight from bootable floppies to PXE boot, falling back on bootable USB, as CDs require far too much labor when 'touching' a computer†.

About the only thing I use writable discs for is for bootable Linux distros, which can be invaluable resources. Until recently, the cost of USB keys was such that this still made sense - I'm probably going to start revisiting that soon.

OTOH, I'm a very happy Netflix subscriber, and the 'watch online' collection pales compared to the disc collection, so I won't be giving up DVDs anytime soon. However, things like the MacBook Air & netbooks are usually not 'primary' computers, so I just don't see this as a huge issue. After all, external drives are perfectly usable and available...as is DVD ripping.

As to the JoT, I hadn't seen that until this thread -- I don't think the projection is that far off. Retail sales of CDs and DVDs have plummeted, and I'm not sure that BluRay has taken off...at all. I know lots of places sell them, but how many people have players or care? I'm relatively sure that certain grumpy folks like me will hold off on buying movies online for years to come, and DVDs will still exist for some time, but they're just not in their hayday anymore. Maybe polycarbonate media isn't dead, but it's definitely collecting Social Security.

† Of course, I still use floppy disks for the 'master image,' which gives me a lovely trip down memory lane. Now, if only someone would make a USB 5 1/4" drive... [Razz]
 
TheMoMan
Member # 1659
 - posted October 24, 2010 04:27
____ Dman, I am guessing that you still have media and are looking for a mechanism? I'll have to go up into the barn and see if I kept an old machine, mine were in Ti-99/4A not DOS machines. I do know that DOS machines wanted to reformat my floppies.
 
dragonman97
Member # 780
 - posted October 24, 2010 08:51
MoMan: That's OK - my 386 still works. [Wink] [Big Grin]
 
TheMoMan
Member # 1659
 - posted October 24, 2010 10:24
____ Dman, from your last post I was unsure if you wanted me to look or not. Any way I went up in the barn to where the dinosaurs live, nope the TI-99/4A is not up there, nor the old IBMs, Only one old Quadra that has some finances that will soon be past the statute of limitations, I was at one time the treasurer of a Charity, One More year of keeping that thing. Not even any floppies them selves. I used to have all old stuff, guess I threw some of it away, or did not carry it up there.
 
CalfeeRider
Member # 35300
 - posted October 24, 2010 12:06
We can quibble about whether the CD/DVD will be the next coffee table coaster, but ***I*** know that snaggy needs to find someone with a voice and a guitar and Garage Band so that those of us who think we know the means of all Don McLean's allusions can do our best closet Karaoke while wailing snaggy's marvelous substitute lyrics for "American Pie." [Applause]
 
TheMoMan
Member # 1659
 - posted October 25, 2010 05:05
____ Karaoke, isn't that an Asian Motorcycle?

____ Remember when Memory was sold in 32K sticks?

____ I have been playing with comps since 1978, wow has the landscape ever changed. Sure am glad that Steve & Steve ran with Xerox's Gui idea.
 
The Famous Druid
Member # 1769
 - posted October 25, 2010 05:41
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
Remember when Memory was sold in 32K sticks?

My first computer had 4116's (16K x 1-bit RAM chips), 32 of those cost me a fortnights pay.
 
TheMoMan
Member # 1659
 - posted October 25, 2010 06:21
____ Remember the Sinclair??
 
zesovietrussian
Member # 1177
 - posted October 25, 2010 08:56
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
That's why I have more than one external HD. [Smile]

Also, my most important data is usually backed up on more than one kind of media...but I've pretty much forgotten about writable discs and moved to flash storage - either USB keys or SD.

At work, I went straight from bootable floppies to PXE boot, falling back on bootable USB, as CDs require far too much labor when 'touching' a computer†.

About the only thing I use writable discs for is for bootable Linux distros, which can be invaluable resources. Until recently, the cost of USB keys was such that this still made sense - I'm probably going to start revisiting that soon.

OTOH, I'm a very happy Netflix subscriber, and the 'watch online' collection pales compared to the disc collection, so I won't be giving up DVDs anytime soon. However, things like the MacBook Air & netbooks are usually not 'primary' computers, so I just don't see this as a huge issue. After all, external drives are perfectly usable and available...as is DVD ripping.

As to the JoT, I hadn't seen that until this thread -- I don't think the projection is that far off. Retail sales of CDs and DVDs have plummeted, and I'm not sure that BluRay has taken off...at all. I know lots of places sell them, but how many people have players or care? I'm relatively sure that certain grumpy folks like me will hold off on buying movies online for years to come, and DVDs will still exist for some time, but they're just not in their hayday anymore. Maybe polycarbonate media isn't dead, but it's definitely collecting Social Security.

† Of course, I still use floppy disks for the 'master image,' which gives me a lovely trip down memory lane. Now, if only someone would make a USB 5 1/4" drive... [Razz]

BluRay will be more widespread now that BluRay players have become dirt-cheap. Only early adopters were willing to fork over $600+ for one when they first came out, but everyone and their grandma can get one for $60 nowadays.

PS: Your PM box is full.
 
TheMoMan
Member # 1659
 - posted October 25, 2010 09:49
____ Dead Tech, may the lord have mercy on your soul

____ Acustic Modems

____ Audio tape drives for programs

____ Card board floppies

____ Plastic Floppies

____ Paper tape punches & readers

____ Modulators to put the computer on your TV screen.

____ CRT monitors

____ I wish Dial-up modems were not still needed.

____ And it appears CD/ROMS & DVDs

____ What a ride for the past thirty years. Did I miss anything????
 
GrumpySteen
Member # 170
 - posted October 25, 2010 11:01
The Famous Druid wrote:
My first computer had 4116's (16K x 1-bit RAM chips), 32 of those cost me a fortnights pay.

This will probably turn this topic into a flurry of "in my day..." posts, but I can't resist.

I would have loved to have that much memory and processor power in my first computer.

To get back to the topic, the popularity of polycarbonate discs (and physical media in general) may have peaked, but they won't ever go away. There will always be a segment of the market that wants to buy products that they can physically handle, give away and resell as they please (much to the RIAA's dismay).
 
Sxeptomaniac
Member # 3698
 - posted October 25, 2010 11:21
I still use CD/DVD media pretty regularly when I need to get large amounts of information to others, such as large pictures. There aren't many easy alternatives... flash cards aren't too expensive, but still a bit much to go handing off to people, and sharing through the internet generally involves shrinking the files down. They are definitely less necessary than they used to be, but I think polycarbonate disks will be hanging around for quite a while still.
 
TheMoMan
Member # 1659
 - posted October 27, 2010 10:46
____ Dman, I found it an old Jameco 5-1/4 floppy drive. The cable is for a powered 25 pin Com port.

____ I did not google enough to see if there is an USB adaptor for this thing.
 
Mr. Geek 2U
Member # 28663
 - posted October 29, 2010 15:27
Hello! Hello!

Plastic is still a cheap way to give away great big digi-files!

They will work until something cheaper comes along.

That is my vote!

And I vote for the funny lyrics, too! LMPCAO!

Have a great day!

Mr. Geek 2U!
 




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