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Shooshie
Member # 2205
 - posted September 06, 2004 22:30
Today's JoT, with Bill and Steve in Kiss suits, rocking out to the tune of MS's new iTunes clone--I hope that's tongue-in-cheek. I have to admit it got a big chuckle out of me, but then on closer inspection it looked as if you guys are digging it! How could you? I feel betrayed and slightly bemused and somewhat confused. I guess it was inevitable, and I know I'm being hypocritical since I have not even taken a look at it. Is it even Mac compatible? I mean, why would I want to? I've got iTunes. ...oh... yeah, the Beatles, I guess. It'll be a long time before McCartney and Jobs settle their multi-million dollar dispute over the word "Apple." So, we get Redmond instead? The God of this world has an ironic sense of humor. Has anyone tried out this new service? Does it suck less than I imagine?

Well either way, not in my wildest imagination can I seriously think of Redmond rocking. Maybe if you're a lawyer, or a young fascist-in-training? Oboy... am I ever gonna get flamed! [Wink]

Oh well, it was really a cool comic. It just had the unwanted side effect of causing me to (ugh!) dislike LESS (grrrr..) the dark side. I can feel a tremor in the force. Has hell frozen over?

I guess that's my roundabout way of saying "good job, guys."
[Big Grin]


Shooshie
 
Bibo
Member # 1959
 - posted September 06, 2004 22:49
If you noticed this under the comic I think you'd guess where they stand.
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As far as the beatles stuff, big deal, buy the CDs. For the most part I have only been getting stuff from the iTunes store that is exclusive to the store. I still want the CD. I did buy 1 song today via the joy of tech link though. [Big Grin] VH1 did a "when bands reunite" show on Haircut 100 so I purchased "love plus one". I don't know how I managed to never get this song, I guess I thought I already had it on an 80s comp.
 
Shooshie
Member # 2205
 - posted September 06, 2004 23:21
Oh, I already have the majority of the Beatles' stuff. I was just noting that Jobs and McCartney seem to lock horns where they should be best buddies. It's a shame, really, and it gives Redmond a good soundbite to sell their store: "the only store that carries the Beatles!"

I think iTunes rocks. It will be very interesting to see if Microsoft can muscle their way into a dominant position over Apple in the music business. Seems impossible--just like the thought of "Redmond rocking"-- but then so did Windows. It was such a joke that most of us Mac users never took it seriously. We assumed it would be dead in a year or two. But Windows users never bothered to compare it to a Mac, and since it was such an improvement over DOS, it thrived, and... well... you know the rest. But will that happen with the music store? I sure hope not.

Shooshie
 
Mac D
Member # 2926
 - posted September 07, 2004 05:55
I went over to MS's website after seeing this comic and looked at a little preview of it...... It looks like iTunes only uglier. Will MS ever stop riping off every ones ideas? I think i'm done for now. lol

I think I'll stick to what I know will work. Knowing MS it will never work (Crashing every 5 minutes)but everone will want to use it for some strange demented reson.

Ok Now I'm done
 
drunkennewfiemidget
Member # 2814
 - posted September 07, 2004 06:16
Lets not forget MS' version of iTunes requires administrator access for the first install so it can install an ActiveX control.

After all the time CSRs, tech people, and admins have been trying to teach people that IE is bad and to NOT LET ANYTHING INSTALL VIA ACTIVEX.

Even people at MS have moved over to FireFox.

Get with the times, boys and girls.

<shameless plug>
That's why I'm rather proud of my eBusiness software I'm building. EVERYTHING is server-side. The client doesn't need to support anything beyond forms and html. Of course, there's a small bit of javascript, but if you completely turn it off, the SITE STILL F'IN WORKS PROPERLY.
</shameless plug>
 
GMx
Member # 1523
 - posted September 07, 2004 06:30
Microsoft gives music lovers freedom of choice. As long as the choice is Windows and their crappy WMA format. [Roll Eyes]
 
greycat
Member # 945
 - posted September 07, 2004 06:54
Buying music from iTunes gives money to the RIAA. The RIAA then uses that money to pay lawyers to sue you. The artists are slave labor and they don't make a penny unless they sell approximately 500,000 copies of a full album. If they sell less than that, they remain in debt to their record labels -- basically forever.

http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/
http://www.magnatune.com/
 
Bibo
Member # 1959
 - posted September 07, 2004 07:16
quote:
Originally posted by greycat:
.. The artists are slave labor and they don't make a penny unless they sell approximately 500,000 copies of a full album. If they sell less than that, they remain in debt to their record labels -- basically forever.

They signed the contract. If it was about the music and not the $$$ they should have stuck with an independent label.

Today they are on CRIBS showing off all the money they pissed away on gold plated dixie cups, tomorrow they are on bad reality shows trying to pay off their debt.

 - credit: dieselsweeties
 
Snaggy
Member # 123
 - posted September 07, 2004 09:22
Shooshie, .. heh yep, the MicroSSoft comic is presented with Gene Simmon's-sized tongue-in-cheek. [Razz]

you gotta admit though, the Flying Windows guitar is cool. [Cool] [Beard of Peter Gabriel!]
 
dragonman97
Member # 780
 - posted September 07, 2004 10:42
quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Microsoft gives music lovers freedom of choice. As long as the choice is Windows and their crappy WMA format. [Roll Eyes]

Now, to be honest, that's not a fair statement. Can you say much less of Apple? You really can't do much with an m4p file beside play it in iTunes or on an iPod. The only difference is that iTunes is much nicer, isn't part of M$, and works on both OS X & Windows. But I *still* can't play them on Linux!!! So, where's my freedom?

</de-fudding>
 
Cap'n Vic
Member # 1477
 - posted September 07, 2004 11:11
I wanna see Gene Simmons do the 'sweaty pit- monkey boy dance'
 
Bibo
Member # 1959
 - posted September 07, 2004 11:41
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Microsoft gives music lovers freedom of choice. As long as the choice is Windows and their crappy WMA format. [Roll Eyes]

Now, to be honest, that's not a fair statement. Can you say much less of Apple? You really can't do much with an m4p file beside play it in iTunes or on an iPod. The only difference is that iTunes is much nicer, isn't part of M$, and works on both OS X & Windows. But I *still* can't play them on Linux!!! So, where's my freedom?

</de-fudding>

Perhaps that will change now that HP is selling iPods and they just announced they will be pre-installing Linux on their laptops.

What gets me is Sony is saying the iPod can only play music from the ITMS yet fail to mention you can RIP your CD collection and play it on the iPod. Sony is just too late into the game.
 
GMx
Member # 1523
 - posted September 07, 2004 13:35
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
[QUOTE]Now, to be honest, that's not a fair statement. Can you say much less of Apple? You really can't do much with an m4p file beside play it in iTunes or on an iPod. The only difference is that iTunes is much nicer, isn't part of M$, and works on both OS X & Windows. But I *still* can't play them on Linux!!! So, where's my freedom?

</de-fudding>

But they didn't go around saying they were bringing "Freedom of Choice." M$ did. That's hypocritical. As for Linux, that's for elitist snobs. [Wink] [Big Grin]
 
csk
Member # 1941
 - posted September 07, 2004 17:53
quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
But they didn't go around saying they were bringing "Freedom of Choice." M$ did. That's hypocritical. As for Linux, that's for elitist snobs. [Wink] [Big Grin]

Now, where's my black beret gone [Big Grin]
 
Rhonwyyn
Member # 2854
 - posted September 07, 2004 18:06
Oh no! Don't tell us you've started losing things to the future ex- already!

</only slightly joking>
 
csk
Member # 1941
 - posted September 07, 2004 19:21
Hehe, no, that's referring back to a link to a penny arcade cartoon that I posted a while back portraying Mac users as black beret wearing elitists.
 
SimpleMan
Member # 2860
 - posted September 10, 2004 05:37
Talk about marketing, HP selling the iPod? That just goes to show you that even the PC/Windows world knows that "hey, if ya can't beat um'....join um" LOL [Smile] I am not sure why, but that is just so funny to me. What is next HP branded iMacs? [Big Grin]
 
Rhonwyyn
Member # 2854
 - posted September 12, 2004 16:24
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
Hehe, no, that's referring back to a link to a penny arcade cartoon that I posted a while back portraying Mac users as black beret wearing elitists.

Oy, CSK. I knew what you meant. I HAVE been following the discussions on here for the past month. In that time, you (or someone else) has mentioned that cartoon (which I have seen, thank-you-very-much) at least three times. (You may count 'em. I don't want to!)

[crazy]
[Big Grin]
 
Rhonwyyn
Member # 2854
 - posted September 12, 2004 16:26
YAY!! I just noiced that Snaggy got rid of the wedding band in my icon. Forget about Redmond. Snaggy rocks!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
csk
Member # 1941
 - posted September 12, 2004 18:48
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
Hehe, no, that's referring back to a link to a penny arcade cartoon that I posted a while back portraying Mac users as black beret wearing elitists.

Oy, CSK. I knew what you meant. I HAVE been following the discussions on here for the past month. In that time, you (or someone else) has mentioned that cartoon (which I have seen, thank-you-very-much) at least three times. (You may count 'em. I don't want to!)

[crazy]
[Big Grin]

Oops, I was having a "thick as two short planks" moment. Please excuse me [Wink]
 
joliet_jane
Member # 818
 - posted September 14, 2004 16:54
Actually, I liked the MicroKiss JOT. Just perfect for Ballmer!
 




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