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Allan
Member # 1717
 - posted September 29, 2004 12:59
From todays Scotsman Newspaper:

COULD the golden arches of McDonald’s finally be losing their allure on the British high street?

In the surest sign yet that the message about the importance of a healthy diet being hammered home by government agencies and interest groups is working, the British arm of McDonald’s suffered the biggest profits collapse in its 30-year history.

The US-owned burger giant revealed that its pre-tax profits slumped by almost three-quarters last year, tumbling from £83.8m to £23.6m.

Food watchdogs said that the 71 per cent slump can be attributed to the changing attitudes of British consumers concerned by such issues as child obesity.
 
The Famous Druid
Member # 1769
 - posted September 29, 2004 14:03
Ah yes, the public have become very concerned about healthy eating.

This in an article from the land of the deep-fried Mars-bar.

forgive my scepticism.

/me wanders off to have my traditional Lard sandwich for breakfast.....
 
Bibo
Member # 1959
 - posted September 29, 2004 14:35
Just watched "Super Size Me" lastnight. Well worth a watch. Be sure to watch all the bonus features on the DVD. The part with various sandwiches & fries breaking down in glass jars is quite interesting.
 
The Famous Druid
Member # 1769
 - posted September 29, 2004 14:56
I never understood all the fuss about "Supersize me".

The guy ate supersize maccas 3 times a day for a month, and he got sick.

To me, this is like saying "I ate nothing but chocolate for a month, and I got so sick...."

Welcome to Mastermind, and your chosen topic for tonight is the bleeding obvious.....
 
Callipygous
Member # 2071
 - posted September 29, 2004 15:05
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
This in an article from the land of the deep-fried Mars-bar.

It is obviously noticeable, when you are in a crowd in any shopping mall for instance, or if you are in my neck of the woods, down on the Brighton seafront, how many more seriously overweight young people there are now here in the UK, even compared to ten years ago. I do hope that people are beginning to realise that something has gone very seriously wrong.
 
csk
Member # 1941
 - posted September 29, 2004 15:21
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
I never understood all the fuss about "Supersize me".

The guy ate supersize maccas 3 times a day for a month, and he got sick.

To me, this is like saying "I ate nothing but chocolate for a month, and I got so sick...."

Welcome to Mastermind, and your chosen topic for tonight is the bleeding obvious.....

But is it? Sure, us geeks are pretty smart and realise it, but I'll bet there are people out there that think that McDs is a balanced meal, and can't quite work out why they have health/weight issues.
 
SpikeSpiegel
Member # 1452
 - posted September 29, 2004 15:40
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
I never understood all the fuss about "Supersize me".

The guy ate supersize maccas 3 times a day for a month, and he got sick.

To me, this is like saying "I ate nothing but chocolate for a month, and I got so sick...."

Welcome to Mastermind, and your chosen topic for tonight is the bleeding obvious.....

he aimed to do sort of an experiment. he started filming this movie after a law suit in the United States in which 2 women claimed that McDonald's was the cause of them being mordidly obese. The Judge in that case ruled that there was no clear link between McDonald's and them getting fat. The guy did it to basically connect the dots so the common person can understand (as csk said)

Furthermore the movie also discusses the fast food mentality in America, how these fast food logos are ingrained into children's minds from a very young age (he does a survey of kids, and all of them can recognize Ronald McDonald's but only a fewrecognized Bush's or George Washington's picture). He also discusses the problem with school food in America, and how unhealthy it is etc.

I think he should have also discussed the massive amounts of partially hydrogenated vegetable oil and mono sodium glutamate that are hidden in McDonalds and how bad both are for your health.
 
The Famous Druid
Member # 1769
 - posted September 29, 2004 15:54
quote:
Originally posted by SpikeSpiegel:
he started filming this movie after a law suit in the United States in which 2 women claimed that McDonald's was the cause of them being mordidly obese. The Judge in that case ruled that there was no clear link between McDonald's and them getting fat.

1. Deliberately eating twice your recommended calorie intake for a month is going to make you gain weight, whether it's McDonalds or Swami Guptas Tofu Nuggets. The 'experiment' proved nothing.

2. Blaming McDonalds for my expanding waistline is a bit like blaming Johnnie Walker for my hangover. They make the product, I decide how to use or abuse it.

That said, I haven't seen the film, but I'll probably watch it sometime soon, just to see what the fuss is all about. Hey, if it scares me into cutting down on the junk food, it's probably a good thing.
 
Callipygous
Member # 2071
 - posted September 29, 2004 17:08
Well TFD it may be a matter of personal responsibility, but when anyone can see that the general population is clearly ballooning in size, then it also becomes a political public health issue, like smoking.
 
Serenak
Member # 2950
 - posted September 29, 2004 18:06
Eating nothing but Maccas is injurious to your health...

So is eating nowt but chocolate...

Being a couch or mouse potato is bad for you...

Drinking excessive amounts of alcohol will kill you - so will drinking excessive amounts of pure clean water...

Too much of anything is detrimental to the human metabolism...

That doesn't mean I don't consider that sensible education of all and sundry regarding *known* risks is a bad thing - exactly the oppposite - but I subscribe to possibly one of the oldest philosophies in the matter...

"You are what you eat, but a little of what you fancy does no harm - moderation (overall) will see you right in the end"

How many times have we been told that eating A (or B) is harmful, only to be told a year later that people are getting sick from a lack of eating A (or B)?

Remember there are fashions in such things as nutrition/health as in anything else...

I remeber being told you should not eat more than one egg a week as they are high in cholesterol - a year later eggs were "good" because "chicken cholesterol" doesn't convert to "human cholesterol" - c'mon get a grip here!)

Most sensible comment I've heard from a nutitional scientist was "Studies show people who eat a lot of fruit/vegetables and high-fibre/multigrain foods *appear* to have a lower incidence of obesity and cancers or all types...
However without further study it could just be that people who fit this profile also smoke less, take more excercise and generally have a *healthier* lifestyle... You cannot statistically correlate A to B accurately at this point. That however does not negate the possibility that a diet high in fruit/vegetables and high-fibre/multigrain foods is *good* for you..."

Let's face it - how stoopid are some of these people?

I smoke tobacco, I understand the risks - I try to keep my nasty habit under control and away from those that might be harmed by it (esp. my young daughters...). I also drink more alcohol than the "health fascists" recommend (see above), eat red meat (with *relish*), take too little excercise, eat fried eggs (still runny in the yolk), etc. etc. My doctor hates me because he has to admit I'm "disgustingly healthy" (his words).

Of course I *do* try to eat a balanced diet, ensure I get plenty of fruit/vegetables/pulses. I try to balance meat/fish/dairy products evenly across the week and so on.

I don't eat McD's - Burger KIng etc. once in a while (why not McD? I find their product to be [email protected] - last time I had a McD (emergency stop on long motorway journey) I got suckered into trying a "big tasty" ("only for the Brits") and it was *horrible*
 
drunkennewfiemidget
Member # 2814
 - posted September 30, 2004 08:47
Yea, my father's take on being healthy was simply, "Just don't be excessive. Anything in an over-abundance is bad for you."

I'm also probably one of the healthiest people I know.
 
Cap'n Vic
Member # 1477
 - posted September 30, 2004 08:52
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Yea, my father's take on being healthy was simply, "Just don't be excessive. Anything in an over-abundance is bad for you."

I'm also probably one of the healthiest people I know.

And humble too.
 




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