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bull3t
Member # 852
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 posted September 05, 2004 12:10
3 weeks ago i got hired as a low level tech support agent for a company that has been contracted to do support for service pack 2. its a pretty laid back enviroment, and the people are cool. i get paid to clean up after microsoft. i also get paid to listen to people talk all kinds of trash on MS and windoze. its kind of rewarding.
so those of you using XP, remember that SP2 may have been released entirely too early, and it may be causing some gnarly problems for people, but its job security for me! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
anyways, thought i'd post.. been a while. how you all been?
-bull3t "if ya don't know, now ya know.."
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unclefungus
Member # 2118
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posted September 06, 2004 16:07
I've heard interesting extremes about it. It's either too good and fixes so many bugs that MS can now seriously use the word "secure" in a sentence, others say all it did was crash the computer. I have yet to try it, hopefully it'll fix some big problem with the whole WIFI ordeal, ever had one of those not work in windoze?
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drunkennewfiemidget
Member # 2814
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posted September 07, 2004 06:35
All I know is I started the install on my only XP box on my network last night. I went to bed because it was still going.
It "prepared for download" for about 20 minutes and I went, "wow.. I didn't know it took that long to think about getting some files."
Then it told me that it was going to download 73 MB and when the download started, it says "0 bytes of 118MB received".
The download was relatively quick (3Mbps into my house).. but once the file downloaded, it started slowly chugging away at everything, so I turned off the monitor and went to bed. If I care enough, I'll check tomorrow.
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Mac D
Member # 2926
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posted September 07, 2004 06:54
I'm not going to bother. My last windoze computer is about to go in the closet. I've givin up on them for good. And desk tops, My wife agrees when I got my iBook she used it for a while and said we should stick with macs and portable. So she gets the iBook and I'm geting a new 17" Power Book ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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bull3t
Member # 852
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posted September 13, 2004 10:59
quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
I'm not going to bother. My last windoze computer is about to go in the closet. I've givin up on them for good. And desk tops, My wife agrees when I got my iBook she used it for a while and said we should stick with macs and portable. So she gets the iBook and I'm geting a new 17" Power Book
you can send me your windoze computer. i need a new one
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Erbo
Member # 199
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posted September 14, 2004 01:41
Pamela's installed SP2 on her Toshiba. No trouble thusfar. We did disable the Windows Firewall because she's a longtime ZoneAlarm user (and continues to use it), but that was about it.
Of course, she usually goes through the Linux gateway box (firewall/NAT) to access the Internet anyway, so she was fairly safe. But I've had to remind her more than once about not installing that spyware crap like the "free smileys." Just like Mad-Eye Moody: "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!"
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drunkennewfiemidget
Member # 2814
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posted September 14, 2004 06:39
SP2 installed OK on my system. I've never used a mouse on that particular Windows box, so not having any way to tell the system to STFU about me not running their firewall is moderately annoying.
And the fact that it turns on the firewall by default is another annoyance as far as I'm concerned. If it at least gave me the option and said, "WARNING THIS IS A BAD THING!" during install, I'd be happier.
ALl in all, it behaved, and the computer still boots.
Not that I ever use the thing anyway.. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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dragonman97
Member # 780
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posted September 14, 2004 08:23
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
SP2 installed OK on my system. I've never used a mouse on that particular Windows box, so not having any way to tell the system to STFU about me not running their firewall is moderately annoying.
And the fact that it turns on the firewall by default is another annoyance as far as I'm concerned. If it at least gave me the option and said, "WARNING THIS IS A BAD THING!" during install, I'd be happier.
ALl in all, it behaved, and the computer still boots.
Not that I ever use the thing anyway..
Except for drawing stuff (and even this can be done - just not as easily), *everything* in Windows can be done without a mouse. Personally, I think this is one of the strongest features it has - everyone else has a lot of catching up to do (OS X sucks by default w.r.t. keyboard access [I know that you can turn it on, but I'm still not impressed], and a lot of X11 apps need some improvement -- of course you can do it all from the CLI instead ). To get to the status bar, hit [WinKey] or Ctrl-Esc, then Esc, then hit Tab, to cycle from the Start button, then to the Quick Launch bar, the taskbar, and then the tray (and then either [Enter] to activate, or MenuKey/Shift-F10 to right-click). You can also turn off some of the notifications in the Windows Security Center, accessible from the Control Panel.
<jaded cynicism>
Oh, fsck, I forgot, there are much savvier Windows users in here who haven't managed to insult me as a stupid, clueless user lately (I mean, really, I'm a Debian user, what could I possibly know about Windows?) - let me bow to their great wealth of know-it-all knowledge and keep my mouth shut.
/me ducks behind his Cygwin build of rxvt...
</jaded cynicism>
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drunkennewfiemidget
Member # 2814
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posted September 14, 2004 08:31
Wow, really? I've been into linux so long now that I had given up on windows quite some time ago and I know getting at the systray was not possible in any way shape or form without the keyboard. I've never bothered to try since then.
As for X11, just hit SHIFT-NUMLOCK and your keypad becomes the mouse.. you can move around with 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 5 is a mouse button.
Hit / and 5 is left click.
Hit * and 5 is middle click.
Hit - and 5 is right click.
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dragonman97
Member # 780
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posted September 14, 2004 10:31
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Wow, really? I've been into linux so long now that I had given up on windows quite some time ago and I know getting at the systray was not possible in any way shape or form without the keyboard. I've never bothered to try since then.
As for X11, just hit SHIFT-NUMLOCK and your keypad becomes the mouse.. you can move around with 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 5 is a mouse button.
Hit / and 5 is left click.
Hit * and 5 is middle click.
Hit - and 5 is right click.
Yeah, I'm aware of that one, but it's rather inefficient compared to being able to actually control the application with the keyboard. I think you can do the same thing with Windows as well (as evidenced by my vague parenthesized point earlier).
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