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Posted by never_ask_why333 (Member # 6340) on January 10, 2007, 20:52:
 
I was just curious:

Does anyone here ever check their horoscope?

Whatever your answer, what is your take on astrology in general?
 
Posted by Astronomer Jedi (Member # 4699) on January 10, 2007, 21:03:
 
Pish posh and crackery! [Applause]

Bad Astronomy
 
Posted by Stibbons (Member # 2515) on January 11, 2007, 00:39:
 
IMO, a horoscope is designed to play on the peoples' ignorance and want to feel special. Two points:

- How can a 12th of the worlds population all have the same day?
- I did an exercise with a "standard" horoscope and gave it to various friends and family having added their star-sign to the top of it. Almost all of them agreed that it fit their day.

Of course, the personalised ones may be different. I've never had one done.

Anyways, we all know that the effect of stars goes as r^-2, so we should just base horoscopes on the sun, and perhaps Proxima Centuri [Razz]
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on January 11, 2007, 04:08:
 
Oh, and here I thought someone was actually talking about last night's comet! [Frown]
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on January 11, 2007, 04:50:
 
never_ask_why333__________________Yup I have two tracking radio emmission dishes that I look for ET with.
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on January 11, 2007, 09:02:
 
quote:
Originally posted by never_ask_why333:
I was just curious:

Does anyone here ever check their horoscope?

Not I.

Whatever your answer, what is your take on astrology in general?


It's something that vampires and sanguinarians need keep an eye on, I suspect. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by Bibo (Member # 1959) on January 11, 2007, 09:29:
 
I followed my horoscope daily when I was in grade school & middle school back when "hey baby what's your sign?" was big. I also wore a "Mood Ring" and carried a "Lucky" rabbit's foot [blush] [crazy]
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on January 11, 2007, 09:41:
 
quote:
Originally posted by never_ask_why333:
Whatever your answer, what is your take on astrology in general?

Err... it is a big pile of stinking horse-shit. It has about as much basis in reality as claims of Dick Cheney's integrity.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on January 11, 2007, 10:00:
 
Flamebait
 
Posted by Sxeptomaniac (Member # 3698) on January 11, 2007, 10:20:
 
I never really saw any particular reason why I should trust astrology. The predictions are usually about as specific as your average fortune cookie, and the personality stuff I've seen has just been wrong about me.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on January 11, 2007, 10:29:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
Flamebait

I'm  - whatever.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on January 11, 2007, 10:46:
 
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
Flamebait

I'm  - whatever.
I was speaking to the original post and not you. It is the only reason I can think that someone would post such a topic on a geek website. Excuse me for being an insensitive clod if I am wrong. Are there any astrology geeks here?
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on January 11, 2007, 10:55:
 
My apple-ohggies.
 
Posted by business attire (Member # 6102) on January 11, 2007, 13:10:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
It is the only reason I can think that someone would post such a topic on a geek website.

bored 16 year old female.
there's your reason.

I used to love that stuff too. Its fun to think about and fun to giggle about with your girlfriends when your crush's sign goes with yours or whatever, but theres not much truth in it.

besides, all the constellations have shifted around since astrology was originally contrived, so even if were accurate then (probably not) its certainly not accurate now.
 
Posted by Too Cool To Quit (Member # 2217) on January 11, 2007, 14:20:
 
We are all following the stars. The government wouldn't like you to believe it but the orbit of the planets and stars is actually not an orbit, it more so resembles a bunch of people chasing each other about frantically hoping that one of the other people that they start following will lead them on the correct path.

The correct path is determined by a magnetism that is not presently perceivable by most humans, but basically over a very small expanse of time we are making quantum leaps inside of an atom of another atom and some one just spit on the ground because they had a piece of dirt in their mouth and our whole universe and everything is confined within a single, subsubsubsubatomic, super tiny compressed, mega duper condensed speck in that dirt.

And ultimately, it all comes around to you again, and this is the value of instance.

The time it takes to pass from one of these planes to the next, conciously, while subjective, is an invaluable tool in levitation, and power control.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on January 11, 2007, 14:30:
 
...ok...time to pass the cosmic bong on to the next person
 
Posted by Mel (Member # 3553) on January 11, 2007, 14:35:
 
You know what's freaky? Tarot card readings!!! Anyone played with those before?
 
Posted by littlefish (Member # 966) on January 11, 2007, 14:58:
 
Bollocks!

Have you ever tried divining the future from entrails?

Why don't the crusties try to find the future by killing cuddly animals these days? it's OK to divine the future by looking at the stars or the rings in coconut bark, but investigating the predictive qualities of a goats digestive tract is barbaric?

Stick it up your arse hippies! you can't tell the future.
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on January 11, 2007, 15:18:
 
quote:
Originally posted by littlefish:
Why don't the crusties try to find the future by killing cuddly animals these days?

Mostly I think because we don't kill our own chickens for dinner anymore.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on January 11, 2007, 16:09:
 
The only star I follow isn't in the sky... (she's usually only ever about twenty feet ahead of me, shimmering in luscious cloud of infra-red-goggle green).
 
Posted by never_ask_why333 (Member # 6340) on January 11, 2007, 17:02:
 
quote:
Originally posted by business attire:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
It is the only reason I can think that someone would post such a topic on a geek website.

bored 16 year old female.
there's your reason.

I used to love that stuff too. Its fun to think about and fun to giggle about with your girlfriends when your crush's sign goes with yours or whatever, but theres not much truth in it.

besides, all the constellations have shifted around since astrology was originally contrived, so even if were accurate then (probably not) its certainly not accurate now.

Close. I am a 16 year old female, and I do get bored.
But this is definately not flamebait. How about this- instead of people guessing my intentions, how about I just tell you? Seems like a great way to avoid confrontations to me.
My intentions on this post: I was curious. Duly noted, this is a geek web site. Some people have think astrology is crock-and-bull, others think that it is based on science. I was curious to see what the higher class minds- the scientists themselves, had to say about it.
Simply stated.
But honestly, it irks me that people on this site try and second guess my 'motives', as if it is my secret mission to stir things up, or something. But it is indeed not the case. May seem like it, but I would appreciate it if you were to ask me before you go out and accuse me (or heck, anyone else). Just doesn't seem proper. Actually, I would define it as being ignornant. And I am not flaming you, Ashitaka, I am saying in general.

GG- You never are going to let the sang/vamp thig go, are you? [Big Grin]

Mel- YES! I love tarot cards! My friends mother does that as part of her profession. I was amazed at how accurate they are! Had I drawn any other cards from tehe deck, it would have made the reading untrue! Anyway, I was so amazed by them, that I got my own deck, and my friend's mother has coached me on how to do readings. Now its like a hobby; I do it for people all the time. And they too are astounded. They say they are always 100% right, and if any other cards had been drawn, it would have made it untrue. Now I can fully understand the arguments over horoscopes and stuff, but there are just too many coincidences with tarot cards...
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on January 11, 2007, 20:16:
 
quote:
Originally posted by never_ask_why333:


GG- You never are going to let the sang/vamp thig go, are you? [Big Grin]

No! Never...

Have you? [Eek!]
 
Posted by boo (Member # 5991) on January 12, 2007, 03:37:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
Flamebait

I'm  - whatever.
Are there any astrology geeks here?
The OP, perhaps.
 
Posted by nerdwithnofriends (Member # 3773) on January 12, 2007, 05:55:
 
Tarot cards are interesting. I don't put any stake in them, of course, but they're fun to play around with.

I was toying around with the idea of learning how to cast a fortune and then drawing my own cards- using family members for the trumps major. I can think of many family members that embody the various aspects, so I thought it would be a cool idea. Obviously, I took the idea from Roger Zelazny's Chronicles of Amber- an excellent read, which I recommend for any sci-fi/fantasy geeks here.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on January 12, 2007, 06:51:
 
quote:
Originally posted by never_ask_why333:
quote:
Originally posted by business attire:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
It is the only reason I can think that someone would post such a topic on a geek website.

bored 16 year old female.
there's your reason.

I used to love that stuff too. Its fun to think about and fun to giggle about with your girlfriends when your crush's sign goes with yours or whatever, but theres not much truth in it.

besides, all the constellations have shifted around since astrology was originally contrived, so even if were accurate then (probably not) its certainly not accurate now.

Close. I am a 16 year old female, and I do get bored.
But this is definately not flamebait. How about this- instead of people guessing my intentions, how about I just tell you? Seems like a great way to avoid confrontations to me.
My intentions on this post: I was curious. Duly noted, this is a geek web site. Some people have think astrology is crock-and-bull, others think that it is based on science. I was curious to see what the higher class minds- the scientists themselves, had to say about it.
Simply stated.
But honestly, it irks me that people on this site try and second guess my 'motives', as if it is my secret mission to stir things up, or something. But it is indeed not the case. May seem like it, but I would appreciate it if you were to ask me before you go out and accuse me (or heck, anyone else). Just doesn't seem proper. Actually, I would define it as being ignornant. And I am not flaming you, Ashitaka, I am saying in general.

I may have jumped to the wrong conclusion, I guess I just cannot believe that you would not know the reactions here to your post. It is as if someone asked on the fox news website posted asking what thier opinions on the GOP were, and then claimed they had no idea what the answers would be. What would you think of this person? Some things can be predicted.

As for my part of me claiming you were inciting knee jerk reaction posts for attention, I am sorry.

The point is, in predicting the future, one must use past reference to determine what will happen and not something that is determined by random chance and probibility. If you want to predict what will happen when you hold a match to gasoline, one should look to the past in reference to what has occured in similar circumstances. One should not draw cards or roll dice to determine what will happen. This logic should be applied to even more complex situations such as relationships even though not all the variables could ever be known. If you want to know if the man you met last night is mister right, you should look to the past to see how relationships with men with personalities similar to him went well.(if you have this information) Looking to see if your signs are compatible has no effect on the relationship unless you make the prediction self fulfilling by believing in that hocus pocus.
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on January 12, 2007, 07:36:
 
Ashitaka:
If you want to predict what will happen when you hold a match to gasoline, one should look to the past in reference to what has occured in similar circumstances. One should not draw cards or roll dice to determine what will happen.

I'm certainly never inviting you over to play Dungeons and Dragons [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on January 12, 2007, 07:46:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
Ashitaka:
If you want to predict what will happen when you hold a match to gasoline, one should look to the past in reference to what has occured in similar circumstances. One should not draw cards or roll dice to determine what will happen.

I'm certainly never inviting you over to play Dungeons and Dragons [Big Grin]

touchè
 
Posted by Demosthenes (Member # 530) on January 12, 2007, 08:25:
 
quote:
Originally posted by never_ask_why333:
Does anyone here ever check their horoscope?

The only thing more delusional than checking one's horoscope is prayer.
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on January 12, 2007, 08:41:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Demosthenes:
quote:
Originally posted by never_ask_why333:
Does anyone here ever check their horoscope?

The only thing more delusional than checking one's horoscope is prayer.
I guess I'm star-struck then. [ohwell]

Edit: Demos,

Did I mention how cute you look in that bunny outfit? [Razz]
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on January 12, 2007, 09:06:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
Ashitaka:
If you want to predict what will happen when you hold a match to gasoline, one should look to the past in reference to what has occured in similar circumstances. One should not draw cards or roll dice to determine what will happen.

I'm certainly never inviting you over to play Dungeons and Dragons [Big Grin]

touchè
It's é, not è
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on January 12, 2007, 09:23:
 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
Ashitaka:
If you want to predict what will happen when you hold a match to gasoline, one should look to the past in reference to what has occured in similar circumstances. One should not draw cards or roll dice to determine what will happen.

I'm certainly never inviting you over to play Dungeons and Dragons [Big Grin]

touchè
It's é, not è
excusez moi
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on January 12, 2007, 11:01:
 
garlicguy wrote:
Edit: Demos,

Did I mention how cute you look in that bunny outfit?


OMG! GG is a furry!
 
Posted by uilleann (Member # 1297) on January 12, 2007, 11:09:
 
By that token, so am I. What's up, Doc?
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on January 12, 2007, 11:18:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
garlicguy wrote:
Edit: Demos,

Did I mention how cute you look in that bunny outfit?


OMG! GG is a furry!

Steen, I don't know if that label applies. It's just that she's so soft and adorable, you know, all the attributes that Demos aspires to... [Eek!] [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by AgingAmigaoid (Member # 764) on January 12, 2007, 13:59:
 
quote:
Originally posted by business attire:
bored 16 year old female.
there's your reason.

I used to love that stuff too. Its fun to think about and fun to giggle about with your girlfriends ...

[Applause] Great response BA!! I'm concerned that the cranky, old geeks are so worried about flaming trolls that we're not giving the curious young geeks a welcome place to ponder.

I too had a young interest in horoscopes and crush-compatibility. Now I'm just curious about how one goes about calling themselves an Astrologer. Is there a trade school for that?

I once went to a fortune teller's booth at a renaissance faire and came away thinking that the "fortune teller" was very good at reading people and began to wonder what her training was. Perhaps a Masters in Pysch by day and a "fortune teller" for fun on weekends?

A geek asks questions, even about "silly" things sometimes.
 
Posted by business attire (Member # 6102) on January 12, 2007, 14:08:
 
my mom says that once a fortune teller grabbed her by both of the thumbs and told her everything that had happened in her past.

my only response was "wasn't she supposed to tell you about the FUTURE?"

"well, yeah"
"was it right?"
"well, no..."
 
Posted by Tominfla (Member # 6767) on January 12, 2007, 21:23:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
I'm certainly never inviting you over to play Dungeons and Dragons [Big Grin]

Would you settle for World of Warcraft? [Beard of Peter Gabriel!]
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on January 13, 2007, 12:55:
 
Jupiter's passed through Orion
and come into conjunction with Mars
Saturn is wheeling through infinite space
to its pre-ordained place in the stars

And I gaze at the planets in wonder
at the trouble and time they expend
all to warn me to be careful
in dealings involving a friend.


- 'My Horoscope' by Flanders and Swan
 
Posted by never_ask_why333 (Member # 6340) on January 13, 2007, 15:57:
 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
quote:
Originally posted by never_ask_why333:


GG- You never are going to let the sang/vamp thig go, are you? [Big Grin]

No! Never...

Have you? [Eek!]

Suppose not [ohwell]
 
Posted by MacManKrisK (Member # 955) on January 13, 2007, 18:54:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
- 'My Horoscope' by Flanders and Swan

Well, since we've started quoting song lyrics:

Now you may find it inconceivable or at the very least a bit unlikely
that the relative position of the planets and the stars could have
a special deep significance or meaning that exclusively applies to only you,
but let me give you my assurance that these forcasts and predictions
are all based on solid, scientific, documented evidence, so you would have
to be some kind of moron not to realize that every single one of them is absolutely true.

- "Your Horoscope for Today" by "Weird Al" Yankovic
 
Posted by Demosthenes (Member # 530) on January 17, 2007, 08:32:
 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
I guess I'm star-struck then. [ohwell]

I simply don't grok why one is dismissed as ludicrous while the other is generally accepted. (And for that matter, while we're accepting talking to a big imaginary man in the sky, why are our mental institutions full of people who do just that? When it's under the guise of a religious community, schizophrenia and imaginary telekinesis is suddenly okay?)

quote:
Edit: Demos, Did I mention how cute you look in that bunny outfit? [Razz]
You bastard. [Razz]
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on January 17, 2007, 09:28:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Demosthenes:
And for that matter, while we're accepting talking to a big imaginary man in the sky, why are our mental institutions full of people who do just that? When it's under the guise of a religious community, schizophrenia and imaginary telekinesis is suddenly okay?


I'll see your perceived 'mental' approach and raise you one:


 -



quote:
Edit: Demos, Did I mention how cute you look in that bunny outfit? [Razz]
You bastard. [Razz]
Have you applied yet for the Energizer position?
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on January 17, 2007, 10:10:
 
quote:
Originally posted by never_ask_why333:
I was just curious:

Does anyone here ever check their horoscope?

Whatever your answer, what is your take on astrology in general?

Sometimes, for a a good laugh, I check my horoscope at the end of the day.

As far as astrology itself goes, it's crap. The stars are too far away to have any power over us other than to capture our curiosity and imagination. And the star charts astrologers use to determine your sign and so on have been out of date for thousands of years...
 


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