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Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on February 24, 2005, 06:51:
 
Wow. I remember someone else in here talking about ditching caffeine some time ago and all the changes it made in their life.

Wow.

I've been trying to lose weight since Christmas of 2003. Since then, I've lost about 50lbs. (Yes, seriously.) During this winter, however, it'd plateaued, and stopped going down. I still have another 25 or so to go before I'm at my ideal weight based on my body structure and muscle mass, etc.

My girlfriend, over the winter, has put on a few pounds. Not a lot, probably only 5 or so, and she still looks incredibly hot, but it bothers her, and she wants to make it go away.

So we agreed to try and smarten up with our eating habits. Not an all out diet, those don't work. We just thought we'd be a little smarter.

So when we went to the grocery store, we skipped the pop aisle. We both used to drink Pepsi like it was water, but we completely skipped it and bought juice instead.

I hadn't even intentionally completely skipped out on pop and anything else caffeinated, it just sort of happened that way.

What a difference. The last time I had Pepsi or anything caffeinated was Sunday or Monday.

Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of this week, I had a headache. I had no idea why, but I basically ignored it, as I tend to do when I get minor aches and pains.

Then, this morning, when I got out of bed, I put 2 and 2 together.

It's amazing what a lack of caffeine will do to you. I wake up 10 minutes before my alarm now, alert and rested. I used to swat the clock and fall back asleep for 30 minutes.

And I've lost 2lbs since Saturday, so hopefully the decline can continue!

Woo.
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on February 24, 2005, 07:31:
 
Just think, soon you'll be able to tie your shoes [Razz]
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on February 24, 2005, 07:34:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
Just think, soon you'll be able to tie your shoes [Razz]

One can only dream.
 
Posted by Doco (Member # 371) on February 24, 2005, 07:39:
 
Oh man - I don't know if I could do that. (as I drain my last swig of morning Diet Pepsi and wait for my mug of tea to cool to a drinkable level).
I switched to the diet soda years ago because of trying to keep weight under control, but still wanting something to drink and "needing" the caffiene.

It is this evil cycle I just got myself into again this last month or so. Too much to do, and I don't see my wife most evenings until she gets home around 10:30 - so then we sit and chat and do chores around the house making it after midnight before bed - then trying to get my rear-end out of bed so I can get to work early enough so I can get home to watch the kids, work on creating class notes or build play props, etc. Rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat. Just once I want to sleep in.....
 
Posted by MTB Babe (Member # 2297) on February 24, 2005, 08:00:
 
The only time I ever consume caffeine is in occasional mega doses. I've found that if I don't touch caffeine for a while, I have a very low tolerance, which is very useful on long road trips!! (Of which I take many lately) [Eek!]
 
Posted by MacManKrisK (Member # 955) on February 24, 2005, 08:11:
 
dnm: congrats on kicking the caffeine habit. It's a tough one, or at least it was for me.

Doco: Interstingly enough, if you stop consuming caffeine, your sleep will be deeper, more restful, and more refreshing, hence you'll need less of it, hence no more crawling out of bed in the morning. The less you use caffeine, the less you'll need it. I've found that it's truely amazing in the morning to wake up... like actually wake up insead of just groggily crawling out of the sleep state as I used to do.
 
Posted by Too Cool To Quit (Member # 2217) on February 24, 2005, 10:04:
 
I guess I'm next.

I think I'll quit caffeine too, seeing as I don't have a sleep 'pattern.'

If someone asked me what time I go to sleep, or what time I wake up, I'd look at them perplexedly because I uh... really don't know.

Must fix it.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on February 24, 2005, 10:15:
 
Congrats!

Just one word of caution... Juice has a high sugar/corn syrup content, so you'll still be ingesting a lot of calories and sweetener. It'd be better to eat three oranges than drink a glass of orange juice because not only would you have the pure juice, but you'd also have the important fiber as well.

/said the nutritionist at Universal Athletic Club
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on February 24, 2005, 10:29:
 
Congrats on the weight loss, that's amazing.

yep, ditto on being careful about the calorie content of juice!

Whenever I feel the need for a pop, I chose diet Pepsi, with no caffeine... took a while to like it, but I do now, and there's no caffeine hit.

I switched to decafe several months back, I get far fewer migraines and feel a lot better. I brew the good stuff, and make it strong... tastes amazing. Yeah, there's still a bit of caffeine in there, but not nearly as much as "real" coffee.
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on February 24, 2005, 11:48:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Congrats!

Just one word of caution... Juice has a high sugar/corn syrup content, so you'll still be ingesting a lot of calories and sweetener. It'd be better to eat three oranges than drink a glass of orange juice because not only would you have the pure juice, but you'd also have the important fiber as well.

/said the nutritionist at Universal Athletic Club

I generally drink not-from-concentrate all natural real orange juice .. so hopefully it's not as bad as most of the stuff out there.

And it's certainly better than Pepsi. [Smile]
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on February 24, 2005, 14:27:
 
Hey, someone else decided to go on a health kick, too. I decided that from this week onwards I'm going to try to exercise more and eat a more balanced diet (no more three Oportos three times a week). So when I'm not packing my own lunch for work I'm hitting Subway, and I'm trying to go for a half and hour jog every couple of days or so. No exceptionally dramatic effects yet, but I'm reasonably fit already and only marginally overweight, so I'd expect that.

Yes, I know not to totally deprive myself, I'm still intending to have Oportos once a week (I'm not addicted, I can stop any time I want [Wink] )
 
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on February 24, 2005, 14:46:
 
Sorry to seem dim csk.

But what are Oportos?
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on February 24, 2005, 14:48:
 
This is Oporto. Think KFC done right. Very addictive. I'd offer to ship across some of their food, but it wouldn't travel quite so well as GG's garlic sauce [Wink]
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on February 24, 2005, 15:29:
 
But according to the pictures on that site, if you eat that much Oportos, you must look HOT!! [thumbsup] [Wink]
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on February 24, 2005, 15:37:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
But according to the pictures on that site, if you eat that much Oportos, you must look HOT!! [thumbsup] [Wink]

Actually, it's interesting. Most of the people who eat there do look that hot (so I turn up to make them look better, it's considerate really [Wink] ). Then again, the one I go to is quite popular with the backpacking crowd, and backpacking is a very effective way to get fit, so that's not entirely unsurprising. Oh, and it's just around the corner from Sydney Uni, so you get the Uni(college) students, too. It will be interesting to compare once our work moves further into the CBD in a couple of weeks time.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on February 24, 2005, 15:50:
 
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
It will be interesting to compare once our work moves further into the CBD in a couple of weeks time.

What do you mean by that? What is CBD? What work?
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on February 24, 2005, 15:56:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
What do you mean by that? What is CBD? What work?

Our office is currently in a suburb called Chippendale, which is fairly close to the central business district (CBD), but not within it. We're moving at the end of next week to another office which is right in the middle of the city (suburb is Sydney), so I suspect the demographic will change substantially in that area. Plus we get to be right opposite Hyde Park, which is a great park for eating lunch in.
 
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on February 24, 2005, 15:57:
 
Don't know what happened there,

Posted a reply but it seems to have vanished into the aether...

Gist was: with you now csk, for me read BK's

Luckily none in easy lunchtime stike range so a BK junkout tends to be a once a month (or so) deal when we go into Ipswich (nearest town of note) and give in to junk food cravings/allow Danielle to experience what it is her peers seem to rate so highly

(If the other post strangely re-appears, forgive me)
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on February 24, 2005, 16:05:
 
No wonder those Oporto models look so sexy.... they're Chippendales! [Razz] [Wink]
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on February 24, 2005, 16:07:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
No wonder those Oporto models look so sexy.... they're Chippendales! [Razz] [Wink]

Do you realise that you just referred to a bunch of strippers in your post? After yesterday's little incident, that would seem more than a little hypocritical.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on February 24, 2005, 16:11:
 
Yes, I realize what I said. 'Twas deliberate. I wanted to know if countries other than the US had them. What I don't understand is why dancers and furniture are both called Chippendale.

Anyone able to explain this?
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on February 24, 2005, 16:42:
 
Indeed. Before they made it into furniture...it was used to fuel fireplaces. Ergo, it was hot wood, and the rest just followed naturally.
</gutter>
 

 

Disclaimer: The above post was complete and utter tripe.
 
Posted by Alephcat (Member # 2617) on February 24, 2005, 17:06:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doco:
Oh man - I don't know if I could do that. (as I drain my last swig of morning Diet Pepsi and wait for my mug of tea to cool to a drinkable level).
I switched to the diet soda years ago because of trying to keep weight under control, but still wanting something to drink and "needing" the caffiene.

the diet versions of fizzy drinks are actually worse for you as the contain phosphoric(sp?) acid and aspartame. the phosphoric acid leaches the calcium from your bones and teeth, and the asparteme just poisons you. just some websites:
http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/
http://www.vitacost.com/science/hn/Food_Guide/Soft_Drinks.htm
http://www.karlloren.com/data/p21htm.htm
http://www.intox.org/databank/documents/chemical/phosphac/ukpid73.htm
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on February 24, 2005, 17:12:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Alephcat:
the diet versions of fizzy drinks are actually worse for you as the contain phosphoric(sp?) acid and aspartame. the phosphoric acid leaches the calcium from your bones and teeth, and the asparteme just poisons you. just some websites:
http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/
http://www.vitacost.com/science/hn/Food_Guide/Soft_Drinks.htm
http://www.karlloren.com/data/p21htm.htm
http://www.intox.org/databank/documents/chemical/phosphac/ukpid73.htm

Well, you can't spell diet without die. Seriously, though, there seems to be some conjecture about the "badness" of diet drinks for you. It certainly doesn't seem as cut and dried as, say, tobacco smoking.
 
Posted by CommanderShroom (Member # 2097) on February 24, 2005, 17:45:
 
Diet soda is some nasty stuff. And the chemicals aren't good either. [Wink]

Seriously I need to start adjusting my diet. I have fallen back again. I had dropped neary 12 lbs. and now I have gained 6 back in 2 weeks. I have a closet full of pants that no longer fit my waist.

I have always had an addiction with junk food when I cut meat out I lost large amounts of weight. Felt better too. Probably won't happen though.

And csk, what is wrong with cigarettes?

Who's done more research than the good people at the American Tobacco Industry? They say its harmless. Why would they lie? If you're dead, you can't smoke. </Roy Munson>
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on February 24, 2005, 17:47:
 
I must agree with the late Audry Hepburn. "if it tastes good spit it out."
 
Posted by Spiderman (Member # 1609) on February 24, 2005, 17:49:
 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Wow. I remember someone else in here talking about ditching caffeine some time ago and all the changes it made in their life.

Congrats man! that's great! [Smile]

I think it was me that you're thinking of there, an amazing thing freedom from caffeine is.

I occasionally find myself slipping and consuming a bit of the stuff, but never again will I allow myself to become caffeine dependant like I was before.

[thumbsup] [thumbsup]

About the Diet Soda thing...I didn't have/take the time to read the links posted, but I have come in contact with various information/research that would indicate the stuff is far from harmless. Now, it may be necessary to drink 12 cans per day before being affected by it, but I know some people who do just that [ohwell]
 
Posted by ewomack (Member # 3225) on February 24, 2005, 20:18:
 
When I quit caffiene about 3-4 years ago I had a spell of about a month where I felt ^&^!$%$!%!.

Before that, I was drinking so much Dr. Pepper (sometimes up to 7-8 20oz bottles a DAY) that I could skip breakfast and lunch and feel fine. All of my energy came from pop. Then I shoveled in a huge dinner and had horrid indigestion every evening. I felt awful pretty much always. I went completely cold turkey, which in retrospect wasn't such a great idea. Soon after I cut out meat and dairy. Now everyone thinks I'm a freak.

The only pop I drink now is Diet Rite with Splenda. It tastes like soda, but it probably has problems of its own.

So congrats on the lifestyle change. I've been there and it's terrible for a while, but worth it in the long run.

[thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on February 24, 2005, 20:25:
 
Well, I'm having a nice cappucino right now, and enjoying it, dangit! [Wink]
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on February 24, 2005, 21:20:
 
/me slowly drinking a travel mug-full of raspberry-flavored black tea. (Last night was chocolate-flavored chai. The previous week 'twas Boston Mint-in-Tea.)
 
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on February 25, 2005, 00:53:
 
Hey, congrats on going caffine free, I hear it's a GOOD THING (TM)...

Currently slam dunking a pint good British PG Tips...

Aaaahhhh, "luverley"

[Razz]
 
Posted by Alephcat (Member # 2617) on February 25, 2005, 01:11:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spiderman:
About the Diet Soda thing...I didn't have/take the time to read the links posted, but I have come in contact with various information/research that would indicate the stuff is far from harmless. Now, it may be necessary to drink 12 cans per day before being affected by it, but I know some people who do just that [ohwell]

apparently it is only nessacery to drink 5 cans a day before becoming "at high risk"
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on February 25, 2005, 04:50:
 
Well, I will probably still drink *some* soda.. but I'll try and keep it to the non-caffeinated kind -- Sprite, 7up, etc.

I *DESPISE* diet colas. Aspartame leaves the nastiest aftertaste in your mouth ever.

I'll still drink Coke or Vanilla Coke as a treat every now and again, but I won't become dependent on caffeine again -- that was just nasty.

The feeling crappy part of no caffeine has passed, I feel GREAT now. I got up at 6am this morning without any issue. SIX IN THE MORNING! For me, that is UNHEARD of.

Last night I had some 7up, and I forgot how good that stuff tasted.

I've been eating breakfast again, which dieticians say is really important in having a healthy diet.

I feel really good right now, and I'm really enjoying it. [thumbsup]
 
Posted by dragon34 (Member # 997) on February 26, 2005, 13:06:
 
Edit: removing double post... d'oh!
 
Posted by dragon34 (Member # 997) on February 26, 2005, 13:08:
 
Congratulations on kicking the caffeine habit and the weight loss. That was a rough couple of weeks when I finally dropped caffeine [Smile] Every once in a while though, I just really want a cherry coke.
I'm trying to do the losing weight thing too. I lost 40 pounds a couple years ago but 20 of it has come back (Too many free cookies at work and me with no willpower against free cookies) Trying to go to the gym at least 3 days a week now for at least an hour (half cardio half weights) and trying to do it without really dieting. I think I can handle dieting or exercise but not both. Need to make sure I fit into the bridesmaid dress in June. [shake head] Anyone have any tips? (other than staying away from free cookies [Wink] )
 


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