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Posted by Bibo (Member # 1959) on December 30, 2004, 14:15:
 
Ghost In The Shell 2 - Innocence was released on DVD this week.

I purchased a copy of it, and while I loved the film the DVD is somewhat disappointing. The subtitles are not standard subtitles but Closed Captions for the hearing impaired. So not only do you get the dialogue you also get things such as "helicopter approaches", "Dog whimpers", "Man sighs", "Computer beeping sounds" etc... This is somewhat annoying and distracting when you can hear these sounds. FYI there is also closed captioning on the DVD so to put the descriptive captions in with the subtitles was unnecessary.

I wish I had waited to purchase the DVD as I see Hollywood video is renting 5 copies of it (this is rare for Anime to have more than 1 copy for rent there). At least 4 of these will end up being sold for $8 or $10 in a few months. [ohwell]

Still a must have film! The visuals and music are astounding with a combination of traditional and CG animation.

I was also pleased that they did not go and dub the film! I still need to watch Ghost in the Shell - Stand alone complex the series but Cartoon network only shows the awful dubbed version with bad voice acting and no emotion.
 
Posted by SpikeSpiegel (Member # 1452) on December 30, 2004, 17:45:
 
indeed both the movie and the tv show are top notch anime, subbed stand alone complex was quite good, thank god i dont watch cartoon network.
 
Posted by supaboy (Member # 183) on December 31, 2004, 07:27:
 
w00t! I'll get this DVD eventually. I'm thinking sooner rather than later.

I still watch the trailers I've downloaded- the artwork is gorgeous, for both GITS2 and Appleseed.
 
Posted by Dauthúr (Member # 3247) on January 24, 2005, 00:23:
 
Have any of you kiddies seen Standalone Complex? That's what got me into GITS, as I've only recently gotten into the Matrix-style anime and manga (I've been a Matrix fan for years, but not the anime). Innocence is supposed to be about .0003% incredible as SaC, from what I hear.

And that captioning sounds like a hassle.
 
Posted by Bibo (Member # 1959) on January 24, 2005, 06:28:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dauthúr:
Have any of you kiddies seen Standalone Complex? That's what got me into GITS, as I've only recently gotten into the Matrix-style anime and manga (I've been a Matrix fan for years, but not the anime). Innocence is supposed to be about .0003% incredible as SaC, from what I hear.

And that captioning sounds like a hassle.

Kiddies? I'm old enough to be your father!

If you have not watched it yet rent or buy "Serial Experiments: Lain"
 
Posted by Grey_girl (Member # 2172) on January 24, 2005, 13:30:
 
Bibo, you are evil.

Now I have the opening theme to Standalone Complex going through my head!

I know it's dubbed, but I'm enjoying it nonetheless. <shrug>

Lain rocks. One of my all time favorites.
 
Posted by SpikeSpiegel (Member # 1452) on January 24, 2005, 14:57:
 
I like the original version of the SAC theme, Yoko Kanno has made some really great anime openings.
 
Posted by neotatsu (Member # 1429) on January 24, 2005, 16:43:
 
I thought Lain was awsome... But, the end was a little disapointing to me...
 
Posted by supaboy (Member # 183) on January 25, 2005, 09:26:
 
Nothing beats Neon Genesis: Evangelion for endings so far! [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by SpikeSpiegel (Member # 1452) on January 25, 2005, 15:54:
 
Full Metal Alchemist has overtaken every other anime ive seen ending/plot wise
 
Posted by neotatsu (Member # 1429) on January 26, 2005, 12:13:
 
I'm quite enjoying FMA... Can't wait for the game, heh, been waiting for almost two years (o.o)
 
Posted by Grey_girl (Member # 2172) on January 26, 2005, 14:00:
 
quote:
Originally posted by SpikeSpiegel:
Full Metal Alchemist has overtaken every other anime ive seen ending/plot wise

You're making me want spoiler info. [Smile]

Yoko Kanno changed the way people think about anime music, IMO. She took it to an entirely new and higher level.

teehee... my cell phone even rings with Tank and Real Folk Blues. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Gambler (Member # 3402) on January 27, 2005, 17:53:
 
http://www.petitiononline.com/GitS2_I/petition.html
 
Posted by Bibo (Member # 1959) on January 27, 2005, 22:44:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Gambler:
http://www.petitiononline.com/GitS2_I/petition.html

I just want the proper subtitles, Is there a petition just for subtitles?

English dubbing [thumbsdown]
 
Posted by Gambler (Member # 3402) on January 28, 2005, 05:19:
 
Well, you can create one. And I will sign it. I have nothing against decent subtitles; however, I liked GitS dubbing. I tried to watch movie in Japanese, and found that English voices fit characters better than Japanese do. IMO, with anime it's a bit different from the usual movies, since there are no “original” actors, and hence no “original” voices.
 
Posted by Gambler (Member # 3402) on February 04, 2005, 15:51:
 
DreamWorks released version of GitS2:I with repaired subtitles.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12475
 
Posted by Bibo (Member # 1959) on February 04, 2005, 21:19:
 
Great news! Requested a replacement copy! Thanks for the link!
 
Posted by Zim'et (Member # 2448) on February 12, 2005, 09:11:
 
That reminds me of my high school world history teacher who would always put the closed captioning on the movies we watched. It wasn't that bad until we started Quest For Fire. The captions consisted of "grunts" the whole movie.
Ghost in the Shell sounds great though, even with the frustrating subtitles. And for the record,not all dubbing is bad, think Cowboy Bebop.
 
Posted by magefile (Member # 2918) on February 12, 2005, 10:19:
 
What would you guys recommend as an intro to anime, preferably something I don't have to buy or rent? I much prefer subtitles to dubbing in general, so I'm guessing I'd feel the same about anime.
 
Posted by Black Widow (Member # 3046) on February 12, 2005, 10:55:
 
I don't know about not buying or renting (unless you have a friend who can loan you DVDs) but I started out on Hellsing and Princess Mononoke.
 
Posted by Zim'et (Member # 2448) on February 13, 2005, 21:52:
 
AKIRA
 


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