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Posted by quantumfluff (Member # 450) on December 23, 2002, 08:02:
 
Brilliant JOT today. I am saddened however, by the thought that the emacs and vi users would never actually end their flame war [Wink]
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on December 23, 2002, 09:09:
 
Oh, I think that flame war will live on for ages.
There shall always be heated debates between the users of the highly efficient, "move mountains with a few keystrokes" editor, and the "thermonuclear, do-everything, comes with the kitchen sink" editor.

:wq
 
Posted by Lex (Member # 835) on December 23, 2002, 13:33:
 
pico rocks [Wink]
 
Posted by ilovemydualg4 (Member # 1234) on December 23, 2002, 19:26:
 
nano rocks [Smile]
 
Posted by younghart (Member # 1377) on December 24, 2002, 01:20:
 
atto rules! [Smile]
 
Posted by Alan! (Member # 1261) on December 24, 2002, 02:32:
 
uh... i love textpad?
 
Posted by ilovemydualg4 (Member # 1234) on December 24, 2002, 03:37:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Alan!:
uh... i love textpad?

LOL
go "edit"!
 
Posted by CyberGoddess (Member # 147) on December 24, 2002, 08:53:
 
pico > all [Smile]
 
Posted by uilleann (Member # 1297) on December 25, 2002, 15:40:
 
BBEdit/pico :)
 
Posted by Adam Atlas (Member # 1787) on December 25, 2002, 18:15:
 
People say that "Emacs (Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift) does everything except make coffee". Except it does. I hear there's a component for GNU Emacs that lets it control certain compatible coffee-makers, and I'm not kidding. I don't know where you can get it (I just heard about it in some UNIX book), but it seems it was developed by the XEmacs team. I'll leave finding a compatible coffee-maker up to you.

Personally, I, too, am partial to Pico/Nano, but when their forced text-wrapping gets in the way I use vi. (Hey, is there any way to turn the text wrapping off?)
 
Posted by quantumfluff (Member # 450) on December 25, 2002, 19:21:
 
I'm still fond of TECO myself. The primordial editor which was used to host the first emacs.

EX$$
 
Posted by Rednivek (Member # 1148) on December 25, 2002, 21:16:
 
Preditor is the best editor I have ever used... it allows you to switch between emulation modes (vi, emacs, ISPF, whatever) on the fly and on the same file....

One stop shopping.
 
Posted by GameMaster (Member # 1173) on December 25, 2002, 22:52:
 
Pico on *nix
Metapad for Windows

Emacs tabs are awful (auto tabs code, and it defaults to (2) spaces instead of real tabs), vi is a cryptic mess. Pico, on the other hand, works over Telnet, and has fairly obvious control keystrokes.

Honest;y, the Tabs are the biggest thing that bothers me about E-macs, if I could find where to turn those into real tab charictors, I'd be happy with Emacs.

Metapad can open for editing in DOS or UNIX format, it has accelerations that you can set to run external programs on the file being edited (read: compile it, veiw it in a web-Broswer, or run it through the DOS port of Aspell). It's free, but it's not open.... Can't win them all.
 
Posted by Charisma (Member # 1164) on December 26, 2002, 10:47:
 
You KNOW pico kicks ass.
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on December 26, 2002, 20:00:
 
SimpleText ROCKS!
 
Posted by Shadow (Member # 1558) on December 26, 2002, 22:33:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Adam Atlas:
People say that "Emacs (Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift) does everything except make coffee". Except it does. I hear there's a component for GNU Emacs that lets it control certain compatible coffee-makers, and I'm not kidding. I don't know where you can get it (I just heard about it in some UNIX book), but it seems it was developed by the XEmacs team. I'll leave finding a compatible coffee-maker up to you.

Personally, I, too, am partial to Pico/Nano, but when their forced text-wrapping gets in the way I use vi. (Hey, is there any way to turn the text wrapping off?)

For pico you can try putting a -w after the pico on a command line.
EX.
pico -w randomJCode.cpp

this should get rid of that nasty text-wrapping. [Smile]

As for editors I think they all have their own charm. It really depends on what you are trying to do.

In any case, I agree it is amusing to see how long the VI vs EMACS holy war has gone on. The question is, will this happen with BBedit and TextPad? (Both nice programs for writing code. [Smile] )

-Shadow

END OF LINE
 
Posted by greycat (Member # 945) on December 27, 2002, 06:16:
 
quote:
Personally, I, too, am partial to Pico/Nano, but when their forced text-wrapping gets in the way I use vi. (Hey, is there any way to turn the text wrapping off?)
nano -w
 
Posted by ilovemydualg4 (Member # 1234) on December 27, 2002, 19:49:
 
err as a gui option i like bbedit
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on December 28, 2002, 16:58:
 
For GUI text editors, I like Kate under KDE, and at work while using Windows, I use gVim (but then, it's really just for text interface, not the GUI.
 
Posted by uilleann (Member # 1297) on December 29, 2002, 08:26:
 
Anyone else used ae (ash editor)? I have a feeling that it looked like pico (or something, I've not used either for some time now). ash came on my Debian install discs, I don't know where it's normally used.

SimpleText, though, is dreadful - Apple laid down an OS design that did not cater for multiple open instances of any application, so why did they create TeachText that can only open one file at once, and then make it into SimpleText which has no Window menu and opens all windows on top of each other so you can't see most of them? (There's more than that wrong with it) SimpleText belongs in the Hall of Shame, not Fame.

Then again, Windows Notepad was particularly lame too [Smile] (the 2000 version has got its act together at last, though)
 
Posted by CyberGoddess (Member # 147) on December 29, 2002, 12:52:
 
Eh, notepad works for coding HTML [Smile]
 
Posted by LostInColorado (Member # 862) on December 30, 2002, 07:14:
 
I simply can't decide... vi and vim are great for editing system files and, not too often, edit files on remote systems.

But when it comes to writing code, I usually switch to xemacs.

Nope, I am not bothered by the fake tabs [Wink]
 
Posted by uilleann (Member # 1297) on December 31, 2002, 13:28:
 
CyberGoddess: I guess you're not one to use ctrl-s for save then? (added in 2k, woohoo, only took them 10 years or something) (the size limit was probably not an issue for HTML, though).

I used to use TextPad (didn't realise it was popular until recently when I've been seeing/hearing it mentioned. Then I got a Mac LC and dropped back down to TeachText :P
 
Posted by macmcseboy (Member # 1232) on January 02, 2003, 22:53:
 
The New VI is where it's at!

http://www.thenewvi.com
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on January 03, 2003, 02:26:
 
How about considering it from a practical point of view? What if you are required to edit files on a variety of *nix machines for a living - how many text editors are more or less guaranteed to reside on all the boxes?
 
Posted by quantumfluff (Member # 450) on January 03, 2003, 06:59:
 
If you look at it from a practical POV, then vi is the clear winner on unix. I also keep a DOS version of it on a floppy so I carry it over to someone's windows machine when I have to help them out.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on January 03, 2003, 07:11:
 
Ditto, Fluff Daddy. But, alas, you and I are a dying breed - old-school fuddy-duddies who love nothing more than a cup of cocoa and a cozy cardigan. These youngsters with their new-fangled bells-and-whistles doo-dahs are taking over - and if it don't play Snoopy Snoop Dog or wouldn't look phat on their boogie-boards they'd have nowt to do with it.

Now, if you'll excuse me, it's time I was bouncin' - I'm off to get some rad studs ... and maybe get stoked listenin' to my dope mixes. [Smile]
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on January 03, 2003, 10:15:
 
Speaking of being able to bring vi around with you, I carry the LNX-BBC (http://www.lnx-bbc.org) with me, and that has vi and all sorts of great stuff on it (like SSH). Nothing like being able to look at a system that Windows judges to be non-functional, with a mere business card CD. It even has a very light version of X on it, and other goodies. If emacs was on there, there wouldn't be room for X [Wink] .

:wq

Edit/Append: Or simply:
ZZ
 
Posted by AnyoneEB (Member # 1456) on January 03, 2003, 18:46:
 
I use TextPad on Windows and Nano on Debian/Linux (just added the alias nano='nano -w' thanks for the hint [Smile] ).
 
Posted by Coffee_geek (Member # 1608) on January 04, 2003, 13:11:
 
VI forever!
Emacs is far to complicated and frivilous. No frills, baby!

Seeming and Dreaming,
Coffee
 
Posted by quantumfluff (Member # 450) on January 06, 2003, 08:49:
 
dragonman: thanks for the tip about lnx-bbc, that should be wonderfully useful to me some day.
 
Posted by Hagrid (Member # 1875) on January 06, 2003, 14:57:
 
Vi is OK but its edt that rocks!!
 


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