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Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 05, 2006, 16:53:
 
I would like to let everyone know that I like Females *almost as much as males. I do not put myself into a catagory such as "curious" or "bi" and I sure as hell am not "straight-gay"( VERY gay). Could I be considered a lesbian?

Anyways, I wanted to post this so everyone can say what they think on this subject. If you wanna come out, support gay marriages, or hate .... here's the time to let it out.

BTW any um.... girls-that-like-other-girls on here? lol It would be so cool to talk about my "internet GIRLfriend!"
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 05, 2006, 20:37:
 
I'm not a girl but I've played one on the internet before [Wink]

Oh, and BTW:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/longspanner/images/your_all_gay.jpg

{edit to add: thx for fixing my link Snag)
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on April 05, 2006, 22:12:
 
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lol Cap'n [Big Grin]
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 06, 2006, 02:11:
 
I'm a bisexual transvestite lesbian trapped in a man's body... but actually it's more complicated than that.

/Izzard
 
Posted by Callipygous (Member # 2071) on April 06, 2006, 02:58:
 
Thorned0Fortress may I ask a personal question? I notice from your Xanga profile that you are 105 years old. Would you say that your flexible attitude to sexuality has helped you keep your youthful good looks? [Smile]
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 06, 2006, 07:43:
 
There's nothing wrong with it.

As long as I can watch.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on April 06, 2006, 07:50:
 
I think to be considered a lesbian you have to seek romantic relationships exclusivly with women. If you seek romantic relationships with men and women that makes you bisexual. Of my gay friends (all of them men), they all had an experimental phase where they explored taking relationships with other men farther. I think to be "gay" you have to have beyond this phase, realized who you are , and be seekingor having a relationship with the same sex. If you are not there yet, you are not gay.


Though if you are at this point, you are welcome to explain in detial your romanitc relationships with other girls.
 
Posted by Ugurcan (Member # 4746) on April 06, 2006, 08:07:
 
Pubic hair on keyboard?!?! [Eek!]

I found some nasty things in my keyboard, but that goes beyond my imagination. One wonders how it did get in there..
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 06, 2006, 08:38:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
I think to be considered a lesbian you have to seek romantic relationships exclusivly with women. If you seek romantic relationships with men and women that makes you bisexual. Of my gay friends (all of them men), they all had an experimental phase where they explored taking relationships with other men farther. I think to be "gay" you have to have beyond this phase, realized who you are , and be seekingor having a relationship with the same sex. If you are not there yet, you are not gay.

If you're male and you put a penis in your mouth, butt, or hand, (aside from your own), or kiss a guy. You're gay.

Period.

End of case.

I'm sorry.

Goes for women too -- replacing the requisite body parts.
 
Posted by littlefish (Member # 966) on April 06, 2006, 09:20:
 
quote:
If you're male and you put a penis in your mouth, butt, or hand, (aside from your own), or kiss a guy. You're gay.

Period.

End of case.

I'm sorry.

Goes for women too -- replacing the requisite body parts.

All those doctors/nurses must be gay!
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 06, 2006, 10:12:
 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
If you're male and you put a penis in your mouth... You're gay.

Even if it's not human? Or attached?
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 06, 2006, 10:28:
 
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
If you're male and you put a penis in your mouth... You're gay.

Even if it's not human? Or attached?
We've missed you around these parts.
 
Posted by Mac D (Member # 2926) on April 06, 2006, 10:46:
 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
If you're male and you put a penis in your mouth... You're gay.

Even if it's not human? Or attached?
We've missed you around these parts.
We don't want to hear about your "Parts".
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on April 06, 2006, 12:13:
 
Well , aren't we a mature group. It seems every post after the original, contained a joke. Maybe we should change the forums name from "geek culture" to "adolescent teenage boy jokes". That is unless someone can post a non-joke in this thread.
 
Posted by Mac D (Member # 2926) on April 06, 2006, 12:22:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
Well , aren't we a mature group. It seems every post after the original, contained a joke. Maybe we should change the forums name from "geek culture" to "adolescent teenage boy jokes". That is unless someone can post a non-joke in this thread.

Are you trying to be funny?

I don't get it [Confused]
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 06, 2006, 12:29:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
Well , aren't we a mature group. It seems every post after the original, contained a joke. Maybe we should change the forums name from "geek culture" to "adolescent teenage boy jokes". That is unless someone can post a non-joke in this thread.

Gee, fella - anyone ever tell you you're a regular day at the beach? Lighten up already. Sheesh.
[shake head]
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 06, 2006, 12:29:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
Well , aren't we a mature group. It seems every post after the original, contained a joke. Maybe we should change the forums name from "geek culture" to "adolescent teenage boy jokes". That is unless someone can post a non-joke in this thread.

Would you like some cheese with that whine?
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 06, 2006, 13:53:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
Well , aren't we a mature group. It seems every post after the original, contained a joke. Maybe we should change the forums name from "geek culture" to "adolescent teenage boy jokes". That is unless someone can post a non-joke in this thread.

Looky here sonny boy, I have boils on my ass older than you, and given that you've been here, what, oh 5 minutes, I seriously doubt you are gonna make any hay by telling us what we should think is appropriate.

I can see from your *yawn* blog that you are an American in Europe. Do you prance around over there telling everyone has things should be done.....like they are back home? I bet that makes you popular, doesn't it? Hear all that snickering behind your back? Well it is for good reason.

GC was just fine waaaaay before you blessed us with your presence/attitude and it will be just fine long after you are gone.

Simple solution: You don't like it, there is the door.
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on April 06, 2006, 14:01:
 
Cap'n Vic

Very succinctly put.
 
Posted by magefile (Member # 2918) on April 06, 2006, 14:02:
 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
I think to be considered a lesbian you have to seek romantic relationships exclusivly with women. If you seek romantic relationships with men and women that makes you bisexual. Of my gay friends (all of them men), they all had an experimental phase where they explored taking relationships with other men farther. I think to be "gay" you have to have beyond this phase, realized who you are , and be seekingor having a relationship with the same sex. If you are not there yet, you are not gay.

If you're male and you put a penis in your mouth, butt, or hand, (aside from your own), or kiss a guy. You're gay.

Period.

End of case.

I'm sorry.

Goes for women too -- replacing the requisite body parts.

Or bi. Or questioning. Or pansexual. Or non-cisgendered.

There's a lot of options out there.
 
Posted by Mac D (Member # 2926) on April 06, 2006, 14:03:
 
Cap'n Vic your only 1 post from 5k
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on April 06, 2006, 16:27:
 
Thorned0Fortress wrote:
I would like to let everyone know that I like Females *almost as much as males.

Could I be considered a lesbian?

I think to be considered a lesbian, you'd at least have to like women more than you like men.

That said, you can call yourself whatever you want. It's just a label and labels are nothing more than a way to provide a basic set of assumptions about the object of the label. If you want to try to tell others what category you belong to and what assumptions are to be made about you, that's your choice. From the tone of your post, however, I suspect you may dislike labels.
 
Posted by Demosthenes (Member # 530) on April 06, 2006, 17:27:
 
I'd dub myself a pansexual...I've liked men, women, gender ambiguity, Vulcans, Nexus 6s, hell, I've been turned on by music and concepts.

Um. I get along best with guys, though.

Either way, "coming out" hasn't ever been a thing for me. People can figure it out on their own, I don't feel a need to draw attention to myself and what goes on in my bedroom. It's not particularly anybody's business but mine and my vibrator's. [Razz]
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 06, 2006, 18:21:
 
In regards to Demo... I, too, have gooten turned on by stange things (if you were even seriosu about that). Myabe we should change this catagory to "turn-ons" ( hopefully, though, not any gross fetishes.)
Or If someone thinks that we could get a lot of feedback on that subject, by all means, start a new topic.
I w ould , but I don't want to draw to much sexual attention.
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on April 06, 2006, 18:48:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Demosthenes:
It's not particularly anybody's business but mine and my vibrator's. [Razz]

Your ideas intrigue me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter [Wink]

Hmm, my own picture on the bi/gay/lesbian thing is that lesbian means a woman exclusively sexually attracted to other women, gay means a guy exclusively attracted to other guys, and bi is a a guy or girl sexually attracted to both guys and girls. Then there's bi curious which I've heard is someone who is attracted to other same sex people, but hasn't umm .. got off with another person of the same sex, but I think that's a pretty meaningless distinction. I mean do they call straight virgins straight curious?

As for me, I'm 99% sure I'm straight. However, I have been attracted to a guy as of late, so now it's got me wondering. Ah well...
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 06, 2006, 19:32:
 
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
As for me, I'm 99% sure I'm straight. However, I have been attracted to a guy as of late, so now it's got me wondering. Ah well...

Whoa! That's news! And you were going to tell me this when?! [Frown]
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 06, 2006, 20:52:
 
csk: The good news is it doubles you chance of getting laid....now if you are really open minded there is a whole animal kingdom [Wink]
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on April 06, 2006, 22:33:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
As for me, I'm 99% sure I'm straight. However, I have been attracted to a guy as of late, so now it's got me wondering. Ah well...

Whoa! That's news! And you were going to tell me this when?! [Frown]
Only a fairly mild level of attraction, by comparison to others. And I don't think I'll pursue anything, but it just exists, that's all...

And it greater than doubles your chances, since understanding males as a male is much easier than understanding females [Razz]
 
Posted by nerdwithnofriends (Member # 3773) on April 06, 2006, 23:01:
 
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
As for me, I'm 99% sure I'm straight. However, I have been attracted to a guy as of late, so now it's got me wondering. Ah well...

Whoa! That's news! And you were going to tell me this when?! [Frown]
Only a fairly mild level of attraction, by comparison to others. And I don't think I'll pursue anything, but it just exists, that's all...

And it greater than doubles your chances, since understanding males as a male is much easier than understanding females [Razz]

That's because it's actually possible to understand males.
 
Posted by jordanv (Member # 3189) on April 07, 2006, 00:15:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
csk: The good news is it doubles you chance of getting laid....now if you are really open minded there is a whole animal kingdom [Wink]

Why stop at the Animal Kingdom? What about Minerals?
 
Posted by fanboy_uk (Member # 2132) on April 07, 2006, 01:08:
 
Since we are on the subject, there is of course the third of the triumverate... Animal, mineral and vegetable.
There's nothing wrong with a good root vegetable.

But to the original subject for my own part I'm happily married with kid number two on the way; but I've had interesting thoughts about what it would be like to have a gay relationship. I even went so far as snogging a guy once, just see what it was like.

Some of my closest friends (male and female) are gay, bi or have had gay relationships.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 07, 2006, 02:50:
 
quote:
Originally posted by fanboy_uk:
There's nothing wrong with a good root vegetable.

"There is, you'll agree, a certain je ne se quoi - oh so very special about a firm young carrot." - Uncle Monty
 
Posted by skylar (Member # 1422) on April 07, 2006, 05:12:
 
About a year and a half ago, one of my best friends came out as being bisexual. Since then, he has exclusively gone out with or pursued guys. Once in a blue moon he will say that one girl or another is pretty, but that's about it. Bearing this in mind, I asked him if he was actually gay or bi. He told me that he is 90% into guys, 10% into girls, so he figured he may as well just say he was bi, but, to be honest, he couldn't be bothered to work out an exact position, just to satisfy the curiosity of other people.

Since then, I've maintained the same thing. Does it even matter what label you put on yourself? By my friend's own standards, he is bi; by someone else's standards, he might be considered gay. I call myself straight because, to me, the distinction lies in whether you could form a romantic attraction to a member of the same sex or not, regardless of sexual attraction or even experimentation. So, even if I did find myself attracted to a woman one day, I would still say I was completely straight, unless I wanted to be in a relationship with her. But of course, someone else might say I was bisexual or lesbian if I even entertained the idea.

But then, I'm currently in the middle of writing a dissertation on fluctuating gender roles and the "artificially assigned" categories of 'masculine' and 'feminine', so you might not want to listen to a word I say [Wink]
 
Posted by quantumfluff (Member # 450) on April 07, 2006, 06:52:
 
The only true way to know your orientation is to make love on a float in a pool. Most people end up aligning north-south, but some go east-west. A mismatched couple can end up spinning like a motor.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on April 07, 2006, 07:37:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
Well , aren't we a mature group. It seems every post after the original, contained a joke. Maybe we should change the forums name from "geek culture" to "adolescent teenage boy jokes". That is unless someone can post a non-joke in this thread.

Looky here sonny boy, I have boils on my ass older than you, and given that you've been here, what, oh 5 minutes, I seriously doubt you are gonna make any hay by telling us what we should think is appropriate.

I can see from your *yawn* blog that you are an American in Europe. Do you prance around over there telling everyone has things should be done.....like they are back home? I bet that makes you popular, doesn't it? Hear all that snickering behind your back? Well it is for good reason.

GC was just fine waaaaay before you blessed us with your presence/attitude and it will be just fine long after you are gone.

Simple solution: You don't like it, there is the door.

Oh you have me all wrong. I don't mind the jokes and even posted one myself. I was just making the comment that up until the time I posted noone seemed to be able to duscuss this topic with out joking. A sign of immaturity.

And as for your comments about me being an "Ugly American" in the William Lederer sence of the word you couldn't be further from the truth. And If you domn't get the reference its because the reference comes from a really thick book.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 07, 2006, 08:07:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
...yatta yatta... blah blah... I was just making the comment that up until the time I posted noone seemed to be able to duscuss this topic with out joking. A sign of immaturity.

And what, an inability to type isn't? Listen, pal - we don't take kindly to strangers showing up just to slag everyone off. Good idea that, insulting the entire thread - good move, Junior. Just who the f*ck are you - King Shit floatin' down Piss River? Why don't you just unhitch yer pony there, and mosey on outta town - yer startin' to stink the place up some.
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 07, 2006, 08:59:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
If you domn't get the reference its because the reference comes from a really thick book.

Thick as in: 'your skull' or as in: 'the calluses on your mothers inner thighs'?
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 07, 2006, 10:13:
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordanv:
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
csk: The good news is it doubles you chance of getting laid....now if you are really open minded there is a whole animal kingdom [Wink]

Why stop at the Animal Kingdom? What about Minerals?
wtF is this about doing minerasl ?!
 
Posted by Mac D (Member # 2926) on April 07, 2006, 10:18:
 
And why have we not included fruit yet?
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 07, 2006, 10:18:
 
Don't you know he is the very model of a modern Major General?
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 07, 2006, 10:25:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
And why have we not included fruit yet?

Don't you know all fruits are gay?
 
Posted by Mac D (Member # 2926) on April 07, 2006, 11:21:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
And why have we not included fruit yet?

Don't you know all fruits are gay?
So the girl on the chiquita label is really a dude in drag?
 
Posted by Sxeptomaniac (Member # 3698) on April 07, 2006, 12:40:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
And why have we not included fruit yet?

Don't you know all fruits are gay?
So the girl on the chiquita label is really a dude in drag?
I think the idea is that she would be more interested in the Sun-Maid Raisins girl than the Jolly Green Giant.
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 07, 2006, 13:31:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
quote:
Originally posted by Mac D:
And why have we not included fruit yet?

Don't you know all fruits are gay?
So the girl on the chiquita label is really a dude in drag?
I think the idea is that she would be more interested in the Sun-Maid Raisins girl than the Jolly Green Giant.
Have you seen his little green sprout?

 -
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on April 07, 2006, 13:45:
 
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
...yatta yatta... blah blah... I was just making the comment that up until the time I posted noone seemed to be able to duscuss this topic with out joking. A sign of immaturity.

And what, an inability to type isn't? Listen, pal - we don't take kindly to strangers showing up just to slag everyone off. Good idea that, insulting the entire thread - good move, Junior. Just who the f*ck are you - King Shit floatin' down Piss River? Why don't you just unhitch yer pony there, and mosey on outta town - yer startin' to stink the place up some.
Oh, I’m not here to insult people, post flamebait, or slag (??) people off. I was just interested in some actuall discussion . I wasn’t insulting the entire thread. Just making on an observation about the quality of a few posts. (Those from you, vic, and DNM, at the beginning of this thread.) Speaking of which, I seem to have hit close to home with the word maturity. I,m sorry. You show your quality in all your posts. I guess I’m here because I liked how many of the people here think and what they post. I’m sorry to bring my unwanted views to “your” geek culture site.
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 07, 2006, 14:18:
 
Have you met uilleann?

You'd get along famously; no personality or sense of humour. Dislike of people, a desperate need to flaunt all of your greatness and intelligence *snicker*
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 07, 2006, 14:36:
 
I got a better idea - why don't we all have a big hug? There we go. That's better. C'mon - you too, girls. Get nice 'n' close... don't be scared, now - it's just a hug... that's right - don't be shy... don't mind that... uhhhh... oh yeah... uhh... there we go... keep still fer a second, will ya? Oh, yeah... that's it right there... mmmm...
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 07, 2006, 14:58:
 
D'ya have any liquor.....ya know...to loosen me up wif?
 
Posted by Colonel Panic (Member # 1200) on April 07, 2006, 15:24:
 
My former wife and I had female friends with your interests, we preferred to call these ladies, "Very close friends."

And yes, sometimes, "Lovers."

CP
 
Posted by Callipygous (Member # 2071) on April 07, 2006, 16:01:
 
Cap'n Vic and Spungo

You are both well respected here by everyone, myself included. I aso like the fact that no discussion here, however serious is immune from smutty jokes and off topic idiocy, but I am more than a little surprised (and rather disappointed) at your absurdly aggressive and completely over the top reaction to one slightly ironic comment. I can't say that I have noticed this poster being snippy or hypercritical in other threads. Maybe I have missed something, but if I haven't I think you now owe him an apology. I would remind you that our esteemed leaders have asked us to play nicely.

Last thought - perhaps he did hit a nerve, maybe you both do need to grow up.
 
Posted by jordanv (Member # 3189) on April 07, 2006, 17:14:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
wtF is this about doing minerasl ?!

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Doesn't everyone enjoy some rough uncut Topaz action?

ok I'm scaring myself.
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 07, 2006, 20:21:
 
I woudl really appreciate it more than two people would state they're opinion on the subject.
 
Posted by Geordie (Member # 996) on April 07, 2006, 20:24:
 
The genius* who was Freud expressed it best when he said humans are naturally "polymorphously perverse". Although Dr. Kinsey popularized the concept of sexual orientation being a bisexual continuum, Freud certainly believed it too.

Regardless of that, who or what you want to do it or not do it with is nobody's business but your own and theirs. Same thing with whatever labels you want to give yourself.

* in the context of his time and place
 
Posted by magefile (Member # 2918) on April 07, 2006, 22:28:
 
Gender is a continuum, not a bunch of discreet choices. So is sex. So is sexual orientation/attraction. Labels are kinda imprecise then, no?
 
Posted by niniel (Member # 4430) on April 07, 2006, 23:05:
 
As I've always said, girls are pretty to look at, no matter if you're a guy or a girl, you'll always enjoy the looks of a pretty woman [Wink]
Guys on the other side, have other qualities ;D
 
Posted by nerdwithnofriends (Member # 3773) on April 07, 2006, 23:50:
 
Whilst I consider myself strongly heterosexual, I do enjoy 'touch' in general. I'm a very touchy feely person, but now that I think about it, I really only give hugs/handshakes/etc to guys.

Perhaps this has something to do with my perpetual fear of offending women*, maybe not. I can admit when a guy is good looking, but I never find myself attracted to other men.

Just my $0.02 USD

*when it comes to their physical privacy; I can (and do) say very offensive things around women, and I can't seem to control myself. Perhaps I have tour... tour... toureFUCK, ASS!
 
Posted by jordanv (Member # 3189) on April 08, 2006, 00:23:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
I woudl really appreciate it more than two people would state they're opinion on the subject.

Translate into English, please.
 
Posted by Demosthenes (Member # 530) on April 08, 2006, 00:41:
 
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
Listen, pal - we don't take kindly to strangers showing up just to slag everyone off.

Yeah...that's my job! [Big Grin]

This kid's posts have been rubbing me the wrong way lately, too. Ignore him completely, and perhaps he'll go away?
 
Posted by jordanv (Member # 3189) on April 08, 2006, 04:46:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
I woudl really appreciate it more than two people would state they're opinion on the subject.

Well, I've been homosexual, and now im heterosexual, but i've never been both.

In fact right now it's fair to say that I am a sadist more than I am a heterosexual.

But, I have mental health issues.

I agree with the idea that sexuality is a continuum.

Also, it's a shame you aren't into guys more since you are hot [weep]
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on April 08, 2006, 08:17:
 
Well, I guess if no one else is going to say it I'll have to:

Your all gay... and sophomoric, too.

Of course, that's not to say that those aren't the main charms of this often ridiculous and motely crew.
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 08, 2006, 08:34:
 
All joking and tongue-in-cheek aside (since some of us can't even realise when someone isn't being serious, *cough*)....

I am very secure in my sexuality. I have no problem saying to Amanda, "that's a good looking dude." -- the very thought of touching a guy any more than a handshake or hug at most turns my stomach a little, but I have no problem saying if a guy looks good. However, as far as I'm concerned, the male body, including (and especially) my own, is a disturbing sight that is awkward and weird looking.

The woman body is a beautiful, beautiful thing, however.

I realise my view my be entirely patriarchal, and based on my orientation, but almost every woman I know has no problem mentioning when she thinks another woman is pretty, and enjoys the sight of the female body (usually not their own though..)

Liking the look of a female doesn't make you gay. If you prefer a woman to a man, including the relationship part that comes with it, then you probably are.

Labelling it probably isn't necessary, as others have said, though. Just do what feels right, and fuck what the rest of the world thinks -- the only person you have to answer to is yourself.
 
Posted by SpazGirl (Member # 4915) on April 08, 2006, 08:37:
 
Alright, may as well throw my pennies in there as well. IMHO, love is love regardless of who the two people are. If you are interested in a girl, go for it. Like guys? Whatever. Labels are made to fit people in boxes, and frankly, who the hell wants to be shoved in a box? (That is not a pun!)
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on April 08, 2006, 09:58:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
I woudl really appreciate it more than two people would state they're opinion on the subject.

Life's too short to worry about what other people think, worrying about what I think is especially silly, but since you asked...

If a consenting adult turns you on, go for it, if anyone gives you shit about it, invite them along for a threesome (and put the pictures on your web site).

And remember, labels are for clothes, not for people.
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 08, 2006, 10:50:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
And remember, labels are for clothes, not for people.

Your shirt is gay.
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 08, 2006, 11:08:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
Cap'n Vic and Spungo

You are both well respected here by everyone, myself included. I aso like the fact that no discussion here, however serious is immune from smutty jokes and off topic idiocy, but I am more than a little surprised (and rather disappointed) at your absurdly aggressive and completely over the top reaction to one slightly ironic comment. I can't say that I have noticed this poster being snippy or hypercritical in other threads. Maybe I have missed something, but if I haven't I think you now owe him an apology. I would remind you that our esteemed leaders have asked us to play nicely.

Last thought - perhaps he did hit a nerve, maybe you both do need to grow up.

Here's the thing Calli, old what-his-name could have just said nothing but he didn't, and I stand by what I said so he won't be getting an apology.

Long before I stumbled into GC there had threads peppered with inuenndo, jokes, puns etc. I bet this with continue for a long time to come. In many cases the origional topic still does get discussed if posters see fit with the ocassional thread drift. Something you don't see on alot of other boards is the parallel threads interwoven into the main thread.....its kind of like the theme musak to GC....often predictable, often hilarious.

I think people have the ability to look through the under current of meme (is that plural?) like a screen door and see the actual discussion.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on April 08, 2006, 16:12:
 
garlicguy wrote:
Your all gay... and sophomoric, too.

Hooray! I'm not a freshman anymore!

Does this mean I have a chance of getting a date now?!?

/me bounces around like a puppy that's been drinking bawls
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on April 08, 2006, 18:21:
 
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
And remember, labels are for clothes, not for people.

Your shirt is gay.
Shouldn't that be "You're shirt is gay" ?
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on April 09, 2006, 07:44:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
garlicguy wrote:

Your all gay... and sophomoric, too.

Hooray! I'm not a freshman anymore!

Does this mean I have a chance of getting a date now?!?
Absolutely not!

/me bounces around like a puppy that's been drinking bawls
Oh balls! Did you say "BAWLS"!? What were you thinking, Steen? Now Druid, Zorro, Grummy, Serenak (where is old Serenak, BTW), Shadow, YaYaWoman, Cap'n Vic, Spungo and the gang are going to jump in with a whole bunch of ridiculous puns and then we'll have to endure another marathon.


 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on April 09, 2006, 13:27:
 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
Now Druid, Zorro, Grummy, Serenak (where is old Serenak, BTW), Shadow, YaYaWoman, Cap'n Vic, Spungo and the gang are going to jump in with a whole bunch of ridiculous puns and then we'll have to endure another marathon.

It's been a long time since us English had to endure a marathon - they made us fall into line with the rest of Europe, and now we have to endure a Snickers! [Razz]
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on April 09, 2006, 17:52:
 
garlicguy wrote:
Oh balls! Did you say "BAWLS"!? What were you thinking, Steen?

I was thinking it would be too obvious an opening if I said "lapping up" instead of drinking [evil]
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on April 09, 2006, 18:19:
 
Back to the topic at hand, I think magefile summed it up nicely with the line "Gender is a continuum, not a bunch of discreet choices."

You can choose to identify yourself with a label to try and make your preferences more easily explainable to others, but everyone has their own unique set of quirks and interests.

There are labels describe the most individual bits of my own complex mix of attractions and fetishes, but there is no one label that sums up my sexuality. I generally claim heterosexuality because, for the most part, I am, but I have had my moments when I find a man or an inanimate object (don't ask) to be very erotic.
 
Posted by Callipygous (Member # 2071) on April 09, 2006, 19:51:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
Here's the thing Calli, old what-his-name could have just said nothing but he didn't, and I stand by what I said so he won't be getting an apology.

Long before I stumbled into GC there had threads peppered with inuenndo, jokes, puns etc. I bet this with continue for a long time to come. In many cases the origional topic still does get discussed if posters see fit with the ocassional thread drift. Something you don't see on alot of other boards is the parallel threads interwoven into the main thread.....its kind of like the theme musak to GC....often predictable, often hilarious.

I think people have the ability to look through the under current of meme (is that plural?) like a screen door and see the actual discussion.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

You misunderstand me. I do not object in the slightest to your jokes or the way threads wander, indeed the unpredictability of discussions here is what makes this place. After all we are not going to change the world, it's only the internet. But what I disliked is the way one sarcastically phrased remark sent you into full flame mode, and even when he replied to your abusive post very politely you flamed him again. That is boorish behaviour and you ought to know better. Replying to a post that (quite accurately) stated that our humour is often rather adolescent by acting like a playground bully rather reinforced his point, don't you think? All you needed to say was something along the lines of your reply to me or perhaps more succinctly that you'd rather be immature and adolescent than a pompous twat.

I also do not buy dnfm's justification that it was tongue in cheek. That you were overbearing, patronising, and highly insulting in an extremely witty and very accomplished way in no way makes that sort of behaviour acceptable. For me the acid test is whether you would speak like that to him like that if you were face to face, rather than tapping at your keyboard, and I rather doubt you would.
 
Posted by magefile (Member # 2918) on April 09, 2006, 21:11:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
For me the acid test is whether you would speak like that to him like that if you were face to face, rather than tapping at your keyboard, and I rather doubt you would.

But this isn't face to face, and that's part of what makes this community (and the internet as a whole) what it is. Common sense on the internet dictates that you don't scold the oldtimers for acting as they always have in a forum that has been shaped by said actions. At least, not unless you're also a regular.
 
Posted by Callipygous (Member # 2071) on April 10, 2006, 03:05:
 
quote:
Originally posted by magefile:
But this isn't face to face, and that's part of what makes this community (and the internet as a whole) what it is. Common sense on the internet dictates that you don't scold the oldtimers for acting as they always have in a forum that has been shaped by said actions. At least, not unless you're also a regular.

On the contrary, one of the things I like about this place is that we try to treat people with the consideration we would give them in person, and I prefer to judge acts on their own merits. Nobody should be immune from criticism.
 
Posted by mephisto (Member # 666) on April 10, 2006, 04:35:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
quote:
Originally posted by magefile:
But this isn't face to face, and that's part of what makes this community (and the internet as a whole) what it is. Common sense on the internet dictates that you don't scold the oldtimers for acting as they always have in a forum that has been shaped by said actions. At least, not unless you're also a regular.

On the contrary, one of the things I like about this place is that we try to treat people with the consideration we would give them in person, and I prefer to judge acts on their own merits. Nobody should be immune from criticism.
I've been happier to lurk for a very long time without posting but recently I decided I wanted to stick around and perhaps even post. I missed the place but the reason I missed this place because its one of those few places where people don't feel the need to be better than thou. And honestly, I didn't care much for Ashitaka's remark. And I would have said something but was prolly just to lazy to type.
My point is that this board although quite unlike real life in some ways still does mirror it. In the sense that anything that involves people coming together in any form or fashion, will result in unsaid or fairly well defined hierarchies. This exists on geek culture and while I don't really approve of the whole hierarchy thing. its a social construct and it will, nay has to happen. And while the reaction from the rather senior member of the board might have been over the top, it should have not come as a major surprise. Correct me if I am wrong, but hierarchies don't like to be upset.
It's like knocking over the top of a perfectly unbalanced arrangement which just formed over time. You might end up knocking over the whole thing.
Personally, I don't think there should be a need to kow tow to the elders as it were but I believe that perhaps everyone should tone down the "chest thumping, Me, bigger, better, asshole" attitude. It's what once caused the older ones on the board to leave in the first place.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on April 10, 2006, 06:09:
 
I wish it to be very clear that I do not consider myself an elitist. After reading the posts I have made in this thread, that statement could be well argued against and rightly so. I am sorry for that. I type what is on my mind, as do Vic, Spungo and the rest. Along this line, I do tend to ignore hierarchies and I will continue to post what is on my mind. If you knew me you would know I don’t consider myself a better. As you only know me from what I type, consider my statements of elitism as my failure to convey what I think with words.

I wish to restate that I don’t mind and like the jokes. I went the wrong way to provoke the discussion that I was interested in.

I would also add if we all had the same opinions and ideas, it would make for a very boring conversation with thread after thread of people agreeing with each other.
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 10, 2006, 06:56:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
I also do not buy dnfm's justification that it was tongue in cheek. That you were overbearing, patronising, and highly insulting in an extremely witty and very accomplished way in no way makes that sort of behaviour acceptable. For me the acid test is whether you would speak like that to him like that if you were face to face, rather than tapping at your keyboard, and I rather doubt you would.

I can't speak for others on this one, but I am exactly the same in real life as I am on this board. I am loud. I can be obnoxious, and I can be completely serious. I can be a prick, or a nice guy. I'm usually pretty wired, doing whatever I can to make those around me laugh, and always laughing myself. I get very angry with blatant stupidity, and I'll put you in your place if you need it. There is no difference between here and there.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 10, 2006, 10:57:
 
Calli - like the man said - tolerance is for people without conviction. [Wink]
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on April 10, 2006, 11:01:
 
Like the newf said, my GC persona is no different than my real life persona. If you met me in real life it would be pretty apparent. Believe it or not, I’ve mellowed somewhat as I’ve slid into mid life (especially now that I have kids) but as a young fella I ran with a pretty rough crowd. Most of my friends were either ‘connected’ or members of motorcycle clubs, my ‘front’ job was working as a bouncer at a TO gentlemen’s club but I had a few other irons in the fire so to speak…none of which were even remotely legal. I have to say if the same exchange had occurred face to face between what-his-name and I Calli, you would have been even less impressed with my actions. Almost for sure he would have gotten a quick swat to the gob…..old habits die hard and when I was coming up taking the time to sit and think about what someone said could make the difference between having a good day or needing to see a doctor. I’ve seen people take epic shit kickings for far less, it was just the way that it was and I still carry a lot of those instincts to this day and I am rarely wrong when judging character, even on line.
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on April 10, 2006, 18:31:
 
On the original topic, until recently I was probably about a 1 on the Kinsey scale, though in the last year or two I think I have become more of a 2 or even a 3. However I am married to a wonderful man with a beautiful daughter so apart from a little admiration of the female form I don't think I'll be pursuing any of that.
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 10, 2006, 19:27:
 
Thank you everyone for saying what you thought here.
 
Posted by geekinberkies (Member # 5047) on April 11, 2006, 12:49:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
I woudl really appreciate it more than two people would state they're opinion on the subject.

OK...I'll bite. First of all, Ms. Thorned0Fortress, good on ya for being so bold about who you are. I have a similar interest as you do...so there, I said it. My interest goes the other way though. Does that make me gay? Some say yes, some say no. I don't think so because I prefer women, but hey, some guys do it for me too.

The key is to be honest with yourself and with your significant other. For me, being honest with myself took a LONG time.

Peace...
 
Posted by zesovietrussian (Member # 1177) on April 11, 2006, 16:01:
 
quote:
Originally posted by geekinberkies:
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
I woudl really appreciate it more than two people would state they're opinion on the subject.

OK...I'll bite. First of all, Ms. Thorned0Fortress, good on ya for being so bold about who you are. I have a similar interest as you do...so there, I said it. My interest goes the other way though. Does that make me gay? Some say yes, some say no. I don't think so because I prefer women, but hey, some guys do it for me too.

The key is to be honest with yourself and with your significant other. For me, being honest with myself took a LONG time.

Peace...

I believe the correct term in this case would be "brokeback" [evil]
 
Posted by geekinberkies (Member # 5047) on April 12, 2006, 07:36:
 
quote:
Originally posted by zesovietrussian: I believe the correct term in this case would be "brokeback" [evil]


That is an easy answer, but seriously, it is a tough spot to be in. He is what I want to know...why is it more acceptable for a woman to like women, but if you're a guy, you're a fag? Doesn't it make women equally repulsive in your "brokeback" eyes? I'm not trying to state anything here other than there is a massive double-standard. In my mind, if you tell me its OK for women, but not for men, then you are thinking with the wrong head.
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 12, 2006, 08:02:
 
I have no idea why gay men are treated with revulsion and gay women are greeted witha wink and a smile. It is a weird double standard, and it's been around for a long time.
 
Posted by Stereo (Member # 748) on April 12, 2006, 08:29:
 
I believe it is because we still live in a patriarchal society. Women + women excites men (hoping to have sex with two women at a time), while men + men usually repulse them (or they pretend to be; see the Hoover case). People in power have more chance to impose their ideas to the community. So lesbian are mostly OK, as long as there is hope for a man to be between them.

The day a woman comes in power and has the guts to say that her fantasy is to have two men in her bed, things may change a bit. But this is going to take some time. (Chances are a woman will much readily admit to linking the idea of a threesome with a man and a woman rather than two men.)

But that's just my opinion.

Hey girls, who ever dreamt of a threesome with two men? I must admit it has crossed my mind a couple of time... [Big Grin]


(But even only one, every once in a while, would be nice. [blush] Mr. Right's better be good! [Roll Eyes] ... [Wink] )
 
Posted by mephisto (Member # 666) on April 12, 2006, 09:24:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stereo:

Hey girls, who ever dreamt of a threesome with two men? I must admit it has crossed my mind a couple of time... [Big Grin]

I remember when I first pitched a threesome to my then fiancee, years ago. And she brought that up. She asked me how comfortable I would be if she pitched a threesome to me that involved me and another guy being with her. And I changed my mind quite quickly and I have never quite ever wanted a threesome again. I see the point, if I'm terribly possessive and want the girl to be with no other guy than me then why should I entertain the idea of two women with me at once?
I know that knowing this I would never ask for a threesome but with age I think i'm quite happy being with just the girl I love. I don't need side dishes [Smile] .....

And cap'n vic. Although I try to and seem to sound a lot more civil and mature, I know exactly what you mean. I still have the kind of temper that makes me want to reach out and give someone a piece of my mind. But then I think I've grown so passive agressive that I no longer fight. I just deal with it "later" in the nastiest way possible. [Smile]
p.s: which clubs? if it was about 6-7 years ago, you might have been in the same club as me.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 12, 2006, 09:34:
 
FWIW, Stereo, I believe that should be "Messrs. Right." [Razz]
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on April 12, 2006, 10:35:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stereo:
Hey girls, who ever dreamt of a threesome with two men? I must admit it has crossed my mind a couple of time... [Big Grin]

I've seen some pretty good slash fic with two men and a woman.

Uh...I mean...I never read that smut, no never! [crazy]
 
Posted by FireSnake (Member # 1181) on April 12, 2006, 11:17:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stereo:
Hey girls, who ever dreamt of a threesome with two men? I must admit it has crossed my mind a couple of time... [Big Grin]

I had a friend in college (female) that used to swear by them. I think men have more hangups about it though, in an "ew another penis might touch me!" way.

I've never tried it, but I don't think that would be my thing. I prefer to focus all my attention on my partner, and I think I'd feel bad trying to multitask with two. (Either way- I've politely declined invitations to be part of an MFF thing on more than one occasion too.)

As far as hetero/gay/bi stuff goes, I really can't be arsed to care. I figure people should be evolved enough to love someone else for who they are, and something as irrelevant as having an innie or an outie is a pretty silly reason to repress those feelings. As far as just casual pleasure and having a good time, I can think of much worse things people can be doing. And gay sex pretty much eliminates the potential of an unwanted pregnancy, so that's a point in it's favor for playing around.
 
Posted by Stereo (Member # 748) on April 12, 2006, 11:20:
 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
FWIW, Stereo, I believe that should be "Messrs. Right." [Razz]

Could be, if not that I know the difference between fantasy and reality. I'll settle for one I could tolerate and who could tolerate me. Anyway, polyandry isn't legal in Canada, so there can only be one at a time. (Officially.) [Big Grin]

(BTW, in case there was an attempt at French, it would be "MM. Right.")

Mephisto: your ex is a wise woman.
 
Posted by geekinberkies (Member # 5047) on April 12, 2006, 11:59:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stereo:


Hey girls, who ever dreamt of a threesome with two men? I must admit it has crossed my mind a couple of time... [Big Grin]

I once worked with a guy who went out to party with his wife and another couple weekly. Every few weeks this other guy would say "why don't you two girls get together for a little lesbo action while *Joe* and I watch"

My friend's wife got really close to him and said in a rather seductive manner "Tell you what. *Jane* and I have talked about it. We've decided that if you let *Joe* f&*k you in the a$$ in front of us, we'll do it."

Interestingly enough, the subject was never brought up again!
 
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on April 12, 2006, 14:12:
 
Sorry to come late to this one guys n gals... but i been on vacation and stuff...

Sexuality is most definitely a scale not a set of boxes (labels) - most over a certain age will admit this (even if they have to be pushed to do it)…

To be honest I suspect as many women fantasise about having two men at once as men fantasise about having two women at once... but our current culture makes one "wink wink" and the other "dirty slut"...

Of course what we enjoy in fantasy and what we might actually really enjoy IRL are not the same - many men have homo erotic fantasies without ever wanting to actually enact any of them - I have no reason to think women would be that different.

I also have no reason to think that "lesbian" women or "gay" men are that much different either... no doubt the wandering mind might have erotic fantasies which involve FFF or MMM and/or all combos inbetween just as the wandering "straight" mind may construct a variety of MMF to FFM dalliances.

Let's face it - if you claim to have never had either a homo erotic fantasy or a group sex fantasy (of one sort or another) you are either extremely committed or a liar!!!

Hell - Jackie and I have fooled around with fantasies of MMF and FFM - but fantasies is what they are: reality is usually a lot more grubby and horribly prone to messy personal interactions...

;D
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on April 12, 2006, 14:51:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Serenak:
... no doubt the wandering mind might have erotic fantasies which involve ... MMM ...combos

Now yer all nuts.
 
Posted by Mac D (Member # 2926) on April 12, 2006, 14:58:
 
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Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 12, 2006, 16:02:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Serenak:
Let's face it - if you claim to have never had either a homo erotic fantasy or a group sex fantasy (of one sort or another) you are either extremely committed or a liar!!!

While two women at once is something I've fantasized about as long as I've been aware of the parts between my legs, homo-erotic has and always will do nothing more than disturb me. I realise I'm a patriarchal, mean, evil, double-standard-imposing prick (pun not intended), but that's just how I feel.
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on April 12, 2006, 16:19:
 
Virtually every woman I've ever been intimate with has had fantasies about having more than one man at a time, so it's not all that uncommon. I don't think my sample is representative of the general population, however, as I believe my sense of humor would have any woman with conservative values running for the closest exit long before we started talking about sexual fantasies.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 12, 2006, 17:34:
 
<disclosure>
I'm sure most of y'all would classify me as "conservative," but I certainly have my fantasies. However, all of my fantasies right now center on one man and one man only. I have an excellent imagination, but even so, I can't imagine sharing myself or my boyfriend/husband with anyone else. It would just destroy our relationship. One of the qualities that makes our relationship precious is that it's exclusive; we don't share ourselves, our time, our minds, our bodies, etc., in the same way with anyone else. And that is extremely erotic.

Besides which, both of us are quite adventuresome. It will be quite some time after marriage for us to even begin to think we're bored!
</disclosure>
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 12, 2006, 18:27:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
<disclosure>
I'm sure most of y'all would classify me as "conservative," but I certainly have my fantasies. However, all of my fantasies right now center on one man and one man only. I have an excellent imagination, but even so, I can't imagine sharing myself or my boyfriend/husband with anyone else. It would just destroy our relationship. One of the qualities that makes our relationship precious is that it's exclusive; we don't share ourselves, our time, our minds, our bodies, etc., in the same way with anyone else. And that is extremely erotic.

Besides which, both of us are quite adventuresome. It will be quite some time after marriage for us to even begin to think we're bored!
</disclosure>

At the risk of being exceptionally rude:
You're not even sharing yourselves with each other, so isn't speculating on anything further quite a stretch?

/me thinks you should get slightly bored before getting married to make sure you can handle the tedium of everyday life.
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 12, 2006, 18:36:
 
quote:
Originally posted by geekinberkies:
quote:
Originally posted by zesovietrussian: I believe the correct term in this case would be "brokeback" [evil]


That is an easy answer, but seriously, it is a tough spot to be in. He is what I want to know...why is it more acceptable for a woman to like women, but if you're a guy, you're a fag? Doesn't it make women equally repulsive in your "brokeback" eyes? I'm not trying to state anything here other than there is a massive double-standard. In my mind, if you tell me its OK for women, but not for men, then you are thinking with the wrong head.
The reason for that is because women are very beautiful and hygienic.
Men are extremely discusting. Until marriage.
Then the wives turns them into a Metro-Sexual pussy.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 12, 2006, 18:40:
 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
At the risk of being exceptionally rude:
You're not even sharing yourselves with each other, so isn't speculating on anything further quite a stretch?

/me thinks you should get slightly bored before getting married to make sure you can handle the tedium of everyday life.

Sharing yourself with someone involves more than just the physical act of penetration, y'know. Yes, we're waiting for marriage to share ourselves completely in a sexual manner (I said "boyfriend/husband" in preparation for the eventuality), but in the meantime we're building our relationship by sharing mentally, emotionally, spiritually, chronologically, and yes, even a bit physically (although mild by the standards on this board, it's quite a bit for us since we're virgins when it comes to lovers' physical interactions).

And as far as boredom goes, I've been able to handle it by myself as an unmarried person, so how much better to have a companion with whom to share the tedium?
 
Posted by Astronomer Jedi (Member # 4699) on April 12, 2006, 18:42:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
quote:
Originally posted by geekinberkies:
quote:
Originally posted by zesovietrussian: I believe the correct term in this case would be "brokeback" [evil]


That is an easy answer, but seriously, it is a tough spot to be in. He is what I want to know...why is it more acceptable for a woman to like women, but if you're a guy, you're a fag? Doesn't it make women equally repulsive in your "brokeback" eyes? I'm not trying to state anything here other than there is a massive double-standard. In my mind, if you tell me its OK for women, but not for men, then you are thinking with the wrong head.
The reason for that is because women are very beautiful and hygienic.
Men are extremely discusting. Until marriage.
Then the wives turns them into a Metro-Sexual pussy.

What do you mean after marriage? I'm already house-broken, so less work for the missus, when I find one
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 12, 2006, 18:43:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
The reason for that is because women are very beautiful and hygienic.

Women are hygienic when they bleed once a month and secrete fluid during the few days they ovulate? When men bathe, they have no major openings during which body fluid (of any kind) can escape, but women aren't as fortunate. Especially those who've had quite a bit of sex or have had children. Then they're stretched out and even more prone to seepage. Why do you think panty-liners were invented? [Razz]
 
Posted by Astronomer Jedi (Member # 4699) on April 12, 2006, 18:51:
 
That just made me think of how us blokes would handle it.

"Don't worry. The missus will fix that up for us."

[evil]
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on April 12, 2006, 18:51:
 
Speaking as a woman who recently gave birth (and has sex on a regular basis), I'm not particularly stretched out, and not any more stretchy than I was when I was 17. Except during my period, I don't leak anything. And then I manage to keep it very well contained with feminine hygene products.

And while men may not leak anything due to cycles, shaking it off after using the restroom just isn't enough!
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 12, 2006, 19:03:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
Speaking as a woman who recently gave birth (and has sex on a regular basis), I'm not particularly stretched out, and not any more stretchy than I was when I was 17. Except during my period, I don't leak anything. And then I manage to keep it very well contained with feminine hygene products.

That's a relief to know for the future! [Smile]
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 12, 2006, 19:11:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
The reason for that is because women are very beautiful and hygienic.

Women are hygienic when they bleed once a month and secrete fluid during the few days they ovulate? When men bathe, they have no major openings during which body fluid (of any kind) can escape, but women aren't as fortunate. Especially those who've had quite a bit of sex or have had children. Then they're stretched out and even more prone to seepage. Why do you think panty-liners were invented? [Razz]
I must refer to the comedian Larry teh Cable Guy here:
Girls can wear a thong all day and It comes off damn near the way it went on. Guys wear boxers for an hour and .... well... you guys know...
 
Posted by Astronomer Jedi (Member # 4699) on April 12, 2006, 19:13:
 
I don't know. Have you ever seen a man with Parkinsons try and shake it off? Messy! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 12, 2006, 19:18:
 
Speaking of periods and male cleanliness....
If MEN were the ones who had them, how terrible would that be ?!
At lease with US it is usually a discrete thing (excepts for a few uncontrollable occasions).
If it was a guy they would prolly be like "Hey everyone, I just Started !!!!" At this point another would reply, "Well I got my period this morning !" And here, we are followed by, " Oh yeah... I bet my tampons are bigger than yours !"
This would go on for half a day including debates over cramping, and would be settled by a bet to see who could open a box of Kotex the fastest.

Ladies, am I right ?
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on April 12, 2006, 19:20:
 
That's not entirely fair. If you get a bunch of ladies on their period in the same room (with no guys around) I'm sure there would be some verbal competition over who has the worst cramps, who gained the most water weight, and who has the worst craving for brownies. [Razz]
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 12, 2006, 19:22:
 
for real !
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 12, 2006, 19:28:
 
Brownies? Did someone say brownies?

/me rhapsodizes about chocolate brownies with walnuts and mini Hershey's kisses hot out of the oven, served with vanilla ice cream, hot fudge, whipped cream, and a maraschino cherry...
 
Posted by Astronomer Jedi (Member # 4699) on April 12, 2006, 19:32:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
Speaking of periods and male cleanliness....
If MEN were the ones who had them, how terrible would that be ?!
At lease with US it is usually a discrete thing (excepts for a few uncontrollable occasions).
If it was a guy they would prolly be like "Hey everyone, I just Started !!!!" At this point another would reply, "Well I got my period this morning !" And here, we are followed by, " Oh yeah... I bet my tampons are bigger than yours !"
This would go on for half a day including debates over cramping, and would be settled by a bet to see who could open a box of Kotex the fastest.

Ladies, am I right ?

You know it's true!

But at least we'd have a good time doing it. Imagine it: blokey blokes sitting around the campfire talking about periods.
[Applause]
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 12, 2006, 19:52:
 
I'd join in the brownie fantasies, except I haven't really been all that interested in food lately. :/

That said, girls talk about a lot of weird shit when we're alone. Part of it is just to reassure ourselves because there's a fair number of things that happen to us that aren't covered properly (if at all) in health class and leave one wondering "Am I normal?", part of it is because we can and part of it is because we're seeking advice.
 
Posted by magefile (Member # 2918) on April 12, 2006, 23:10:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
That's not entirely fair. If you get a bunch of ladies on their period in the same room (with no guys around) I'm sure there would be some verbal competition over who has the worst cramps, who gained the most water weight, and who has the worst craving for brownies. [Razz]

I'm having a horrible flashback to high school here ...
 
Posted by csk (Member # 1941) on April 12, 2006, 23:40:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
Speaking as a woman who recently gave birth (and has sex on a regular basis),

That's funny, I thought you were married? [Wink]

On the subject of threesomes it's an interesting one. I haven't had any (yet) but would certainly be open to the idea. I'd certainly prefer FFM, but would also do MMF if suitable opportunity arose.
 
Posted by FireSnake (Member # 1181) on April 13, 2006, 04:32:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
The reason for that is because women are very beautiful and hygienic.
Men are extremely discusting. Until marriage.
Then the wives turns them into a Metro-Sexual pussy.

quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Women are hygienic when they bleed once a month and secrete fluid during the few days they ovulate? When men bathe, they have no major openings during which body fluid (of any kind) can escape, but women aren't as fortunate. Especially those who've had quite a bit of sex or have had children. Then they're stretched out and even more prone to seepage. Why do you think panty-liners were invented? [Razz]

Speak for yourselves, sisters. First, my last period consisted of approximately 3 days of wiping pink. (Oh, sure, I used a pantiliner just in case, but not so much as a spot.) Second, that stretched thing is, as far as I know, a myth. I've had plenty of sex and if I had to speculate, I'd say the nether regions are bordering on too tight, if anything. One word for those worried about being loose: (say it with me, DNM) Kegels. Third, hygiene, in general, is a function of the person's habits and not their gender. I've known some fastidious men and some sloppy women and vice versa. Can we dispose of the ignorant gender stereotypes already, or should I go build myself a hut in the back yard for the next time I'm on the rag?

It seems like the men can't win here either. It must be nice to know you have already been sorted into the category of either "discusting" or "Metro-Sexual pussy." With an attitude like that, it's probably better you stick to chicks, anyway.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 13, 2006, 06:22:
 
fs: Definitely true about tidiness. I am by no stretch of the means 'neat,' I tend to let any area that I call my own get quite a bit cluttered. OTOH, I was blown away to learn that I have a friend who is much worse than me - she could outclutter me any day of the week.

On the other matter, I figure I'll point out that it is possible for a guy to be somewhat less than pristine...if he's not terribly concerned with cleanliness and/or his own health...and uh...more European than American (though numbers are changing on that). Not quite in the same ballpark as the 'fairer sex,' but a note for comparison's sake.
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 13, 2006, 06:35:
 
quote:
Originally posted by FireSnake:
Speak for yourselves, sisters. First, my last period consisted of approximately 3 days of wiping pink. (Oh, sure, I used a pantiliner just in case, but not so much as a spot.) Second, that stretched thing is, as far as I know, a myth. I've had plenty of sex and if I had to speculate, I'd say the nether regions are bordering on too tight, if anything. One word for those worried about being loose: (say it with me, DNM) Kegels. Third, hygiene, in general, is a function of the person's habits and not their gender. I've known some fastidious men and some sloppy women and vice versa. Can we dispose of the ignorant gender stereotypes already, or should I go build myself a hut in the back yard for the next time I'm on the rag?

Bingo.

#1: I am a *very* clean guy. I shower every single day, I wash my hands whenever I go to the can, and a 'shake' does plenty as far as getting rid of anything goes -- remember, urine is sterile. If that makes me a metrosexual pussy, then so be it.

#2: Having a child and/or sex *does not* change a woman's 'tightness'. Not even remotely. For one thing, researchers have been trying for years to create anything with the elasticity and resilience of a woman's vagina. To date, they haven't come close. Nothing can retract like they do, and then return to such a small size. Stories about girls being 'loose' is more a play on words from years ago, and not a physical description. It's actually found from what I recall, a woman's tightness can actually have more to do with two things: A) how often she exercises those muscles (kegals, sex, masturbation), and B) her weight. Apparently overweight womens bodies exert more pressure on their nether regions, and thereby cause the muscles to lose some of their strength.

And I have been with women who've been considered 'loose' by society's morals, women who've been considered 'very conservative' and Amanda's had a child, obviously -- and I can unequivocally tell you without a shadow of a doubt, what's gone in or come out of that region has zero to do with its elasticity.

That's all I have to say about that.
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on April 13, 2006, 09:08:
 
quote:
Originally posted by FireSnake:
First, my last period consisted of approximately 3 days of wiping pink.

My last period was 16 months ago. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 13, 2006, 09:31:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
quote:
Originally posted by FireSnake:
First, my last period consisted of approximately 3 days of wiping pink.

My last period was 16 months ago. [Big Grin]
Mine was never. [Big Grin]

So are you saying you went on the shot, it hasn't come back yet, or you're pregnant again? [Razz]
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on April 13, 2006, 09:56:
 
Hasn't come back yet. Apparantly all this night nursing is good for something. [Razz]
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on April 13, 2006, 10:01:
 
...researchers have been trying for years to create anything with the elasticity and resilience of a woman's vagina. To date, they haven't come close.

With the exception of goatse.
 
Posted by macmcseboy (Member # 1232) on April 13, 2006, 10:13:
 
lol
 
Posted by FireSnake (Member # 1181) on April 13, 2006, 10:16:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
Hasn't come back yet. Apparantly all this night nursing is good for something. [Razz]

Watch out for the "you can't get pregnant while you are nursing" baby. I know two of those.
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 13, 2006, 10:17:
 
Dman, that might depend on the region of Europe. The guys from the Balkans I've met were so fastidious they'd put cats to shame.

Careful there Peebs. I know someone who got pregnant while nursing.
 
Posted by FireSnake (Member # 1181) on April 13, 2006, 10:38:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Dman, that might depend on the region of Europe. The guys from the Balkans I've met were so fastidious they'd put cats to shame.

I hear that stereotype a lot, usually it's attributed to the lack of circumcision in Europe since it's not as culturally pervasive there. In my up close and personal experience with penises of both the circumcised and uncircumcised varieties, there's no indication that Europeans or uncircumcised men are less hygienic.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 13, 2006, 11:35:
 
I never said anything of the sort - 'twas actually just looking for a fitting analogy to differentiate the well, cut from the uncut.

In this day and age, using hygienne as a reason to butcher is a kind of silly notion.
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on April 13, 2006, 11:50:
 
quote:
Originally posted by FireSnake:
quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
Hasn't come back yet. Apparantly all this night nursing is good for something. [Razz]

Watch out for the "you can't get pregnant while you are nursing" baby. I know two of those.
Don't worry, we're still using precautions. And to be on the safe side, since I don't have a period yet to let me know, I've even taken a couple of pregnancy tests. Both negative.

And why does "my period hasn't come back" = "we're not using contraceptives" anyway? Xanthine commented on that too.
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 13, 2006, 12:38:
 
Probably because even people that should know better make that mistake...

I'm glad you're taking precautions Peebs. Kids are great, but having them too close together isn't very healthy for you.
 
Posted by SpazGirl (Member # 4915) on April 13, 2006, 12:49:
 
Like my cousin, she just had one last Oct. and is due again in Aug.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 13, 2006, 12:56:
 
Any recommendations for chemical birth control? I'm thinking the ease of the patch or the shot would be nice. I'm horrible at taking pills, and on my schedule, even if I remembered, I wouldn't be able to take them at the same time every day.

Oh right. And I'm on Wellbutrin XL, which is contraindicated for some kinds of birth control, but I forget which. I don't really want to give up the Wellbutrin 'cause it's done wonders for me, but Jonathan and I don't want to have children for another two or three years.
 
Posted by SpazGirl (Member # 4915) on April 13, 2006, 13:05:
 
I'm personally on the pill, but the patch would seem easier than going in for a shot. Just put it on rather than schedule an appointment, take time out of your schedule, etc.
 
Posted by drunkennewfiemidget (Member # 2814) on April 13, 2006, 13:09:
 
From what I heard, the shot usually completely eliminates your menstrual cycle altogether. Some women don't like this because they don't have their normal schedule to know all is well, and they think it's weird. YMMV, I'm not a woman.

I've heard differing opinions on the patch. Most of the women I know on the patch said it burned for the first few days, but after that, it was wonderful -- and it didnt come off in the shower, while swimming, during hot sex, etc. [Razz]
 
Posted by Stereo (Member # 748) on April 13, 2006, 13:14:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Any recommendations for chemical birth control? I'm thinking the ease of the patch or the shot would be nice. I'm horrible at taking pills, and on my schedule, even if I remembered, I wouldn't be able to take them at the same time every day.

Oh right. And I'm on Wellbutrin XL, which is contraindicated for some kinds of birth control, but I forget which. I don't really want to give up the Wellbutrin 'cause it's done wonders for me, but Jonathan and I don't want to have children for another two or three years.

Rhonwyyn, hear the voice of the master of obvious: that's what pharmacists are for. Asking one will give you a much better answer that asking us. (Unless there is a pharmacist around?) And I trust it's the same in the US as in Canada, and they are professionnals who take an oath to professionnal secrecy. Just make sure the one you talk to has a valid diploma! [crazy]

(Or a doctor. You'll probably want to see a gynecologist beforehand anyway.)
 
Posted by maximile (Member # 3446) on April 13, 2006, 14:17:
 
Rhonwyyn: shouldn't you use the 'rhythm' method? Or am I getting confused with another religion?
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 13, 2006, 14:19:
 
Pharmacists haven't been much help in my experience... they're just their to dispense medication, not give advice, but maybe that differs according to where you live.

In any case, I do have an appointment with the doctor who prescribed the Wellbutrin next week. I'm finally undergoing that wonderful test that all women are supposed to get at age 18 or when starting sexual activity. I'll talk with her then about birth control, but I figured it'd be good to gather information before going in so I can at least have some idea of what's what beforehand. (I.E., I won't spend the appointment going "Huh? Eww. It does WHAT?!" [Razz] )
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 13, 2006, 14:20:
 
quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
Rhonwyyn: shouldn't you use the 'rhythm' method? Or am I getting confused with another religion?

I'm Mennonite, Max, not Catholic or Amish. [Wink]

And besides which, neither Jonathan nor I trust ourselves to abstain from sex completely during the 8-10 day window when I'm most able to get pregnant. [Razz]
 
Posted by magefile (Member # 2918) on April 13, 2006, 14:40:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Pharmacists haven't been much help in my experience... they're just their to dispense medication, not give advice, but maybe that differs according to where you live.

Technically, that's correct. In practice, the "conscience clause" issue keeps popping up. Apparently, the APhA thinks it's acceptable to refuse to dispense certain medications (including, but not limited to, birth control) because it conflicts with your religious or moral beliefs.
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on April 13, 2006, 14:43:
 
Rhonnie:
I sent a p/m overview of hormonal birth control options, but I forgot to add that hormonal birth control shouldn't be used if you smoke or have a history of blood clots.
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 13, 2006, 14:51:
 
That and bodies sometimes play tricks on you.

And Rhonnie, just an FYI, do not react with anything other than delight the first time he disrobes. Trust me. No amount of education is going to fully prepare you, and nothing will ever unruffle his feathers if you aren't in ectasies over the sight . I know I don't know Jonathan, but boy parts are weird, and boys are weird about their parts. A few good compliments will go a long way in this department, even if he is secure about his manhood, and that just makes everything about sex easier.

And if you must say something about size, stay away from any comments that could be construed as small. That is also a bad bad scene.

Please file that away. I wish I had had that advice once. It would have made certain aspects of my first relationship go so much smoother. They really don't get over it, and if he's got any tedency towards insecurity he will hold your initial reaction against you forever.

It goes the other way too, guys. Being naked in front of someone is a very vulnerable position. Treat each other with care. The joy in sex is a mental game.
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on April 13, 2006, 15:06:
 
Xanthine - wise words, very wise words. [Wink]
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 13, 2006, 15:23:
 
Xanth, thanks for the advice! I will definitely keep it tucked away for later.

It's weird, but I've seen naked men (like my dad and my uncle and infants whose diapers I was changing) and was totally disgusted by them (the adults, that is); however, the more I love Jonathan, the more I want to see him--all of him--and I'm actually looking forward to our wedding night, not dreading it. I mean, I've always throught fellatio was thoroughly disgusting, but here of late I've found myself wanting to do it.

I never realized how much loving someone can change your perspective on things, and that's without him trying to convince me to change my mind! [crazy]
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 13, 2006, 15:37:
 
Yeah, but love him or not, boy parts get even weirder when the boy is excited.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 13, 2006, 15:41:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Yeah, but love him or not, boy parts get even weirder when the boy is excited.

Well, at least by that point they're not saggy and wrinkly! [Razz]

Someone told me once to think about an erection like a popsicle. [Confused]
 
Posted by FireSnake (Member # 1181) on April 13, 2006, 17:20:
 
If he's a virgin too, don't expect too much the first time. A lot of guys do get nervous, and either get too excited or overthink what they are about to do and lose their erection the first time. I'd say just be understanding and reassuring and try not to show disappointment, and don't take it to heart or think there is something wrong with you if it happens. If you are on a hormonal method of birth control, you can at least avoid condoms complicating that further.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 13, 2006, 17:31:
 
Hmmm... our benevolent dictators should gather all this info and publish a new book--complete with illustrations! We could call it "A Geek's Guide to Great Sex: Everything you've wanted to know but were afraid to ask your mom" or something like that. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 13, 2006, 20:21:
 
[/QUOTE]Bingo.


#2: Having a child and/or sex *does not* change a woman's 'tightness'. Not even remotely. For one thing, researchers have been trying for years to create anything with the elasticity and resilience of a woman's vagina. To date, they haven't come close. Nothing can retract like they do, and then return to such a small size. Stories about girls being 'loose' is more a play on words from years ago, and not a physical description. It's actually found from what I recall, a woman's tightness can actually have more to do with two things: A) how often she exercises those muscles (kegals, sex, masturbation), and B) her weight. Apparently overweight womens bodies exert more pressure on their nether regions, and thereby cause the muscles to lose some of their strength.

[/QB][/QUOTE]
Okay, I have DEFINATLY noticed changes in tightness. Especially my friend. My friend was a pretty heavy masturbator [crazy] and she was um.... well, she didn;t try to hard to make things fit, u know what I mean. Like, her areas were at the least
'welcoming'.
She hasn't been masturbating for about a year and a half, and hasn't had sex since June. Now, even tampons are painful.
What does that say ?
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 13, 2006, 20:30:
 
That says she needs to relax while inserting tampons.

I would say more but that would be crossing way over the TMI line.
 
Posted by nerdwithnofriends (Member # 3773) on April 13, 2006, 21:18:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
That says she needs to relax while inserting tampons.

I would say more but that would be crossing way over the TMI line.

I do believe we've already passed that point.
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 13, 2006, 21:30:
 
YEah, but I'm still not saying anything more.
 
Posted by nerdwithnofriends (Member # 3773) on April 13, 2006, 22:50:
 
Thank $DEITY. I wasn't implying that you should continue because the TMI-point had already been passed, merely that this thread has taken a most, uhm... private tone.
 
Posted by geekinberkies (Member # 5047) on April 14, 2006, 06:28:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
YEah, but I'm still not saying anything more.

This entire thread, now seven pages has become one amusing colossal waste of bandwidth.
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on April 14, 2006, 06:46:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:

Someone told me once to think about an erection like a popsicle. [Confused]

Don't forget the Garlic Head! (Blatant commercial spam)
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on April 14, 2006, 07:15:
 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:

Someone told me once to think about an erection like a popsicle. [Confused]

Don't forget the Garlic Head! (Blatant commercial spam)
Ick! It just strikes me odd to think of Garlic Head and blue popsicles in combination. The taste would be really nasty. Of course, I don't like blue popsicles to begin with.

Or were you recommending Garlic Head as the latest staple in the fetishist's toolbox? [Wink]
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on April 14, 2006, 07:21:
 
Blue popsicles!!?? Who in the world is talking about popsicles?
 
Posted by FireSnake (Member # 1181) on April 14, 2006, 07:39:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
Okay, I have DEFINATLY noticed changes in tightness. Especially my friend. My friend was a pretty heavy masturbator [crazy] and she was um.... well, she didn;t try to hard to make things fit, u know what I mean. Like, her areas were at the least
'welcoming'.
She hasn't been masturbating for about a year and a half, and hasn't had sex since June. Now, even tampons are painful.
What does that say ?

Your friend maybe should talk to her doctor, if she's experienced changes in her sex drive and penetration is painful. That can be a side effect of some medications, including birth control pills. (Just because she's not having sex doesn't mean she's not on the pill, they are sometimes prescribed for reasons other than preventing pregnancy.) Painful insertion of something into the vagina usually results from a combination of tense muscles and lack of lubrication. You can also suggest to her that she grease the applicator with a little KY, especially after removing the first tampon, since they don't just absorb menstrual fluids. (Sorry, I don't know any ways to make the removal less uncomfortable.)
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 14, 2006, 07:54:
 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
Don't forget the Garlic Head!

I thought that was a euphemism for 'felating a Frenchman'. [Confused]
 
Posted by magefile (Member # 2918) on April 14, 2006, 07:58:
 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
Blue popsicles!!?? Who in the world is talking about popsicles?

I'd be a bit more concerned about the blue part. [Glances down nervously]
 
Posted by Too Cool To Quit (Member # 2217) on April 14, 2006, 09:03:
 

 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 14, 2006, 09:05:
 
Maybe it's a side effect of Icy Hot. (~NSFW~)

Warning: It's around noon EDT, and this article might result in dryness of mouth, reduced appetite, or spraying of liquids on keyboards and/or monitors. If you're a depraved person, it might also result in your drawing attention by laughing hysterically.
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on April 14, 2006, 09:38:
 
Dman, I've heard Tiger Balm has similar effects.
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 14, 2006, 09:53:
 
quote:
Originally posted by FireSnake:
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
Okay, I have DEFINATLY noticed changes in tightness. Especially my friend. My friend was a pretty heavy masturbator [crazy] and she was um.... well, she didn;t try to hard to make things fit, u know what I mean. Like, her areas were at the least
'welcoming'.
She hasn't been masturbating for about a year and a half, and hasn't had sex since June. Now, even tampons are painful.
What does that say ?

Your friend maybe should talk to her doctor, if she's experienced changes in her sex drive and penetration is painful. That can be a side effect of some medications, including birth control pills. (Just because she's not having sex doesn't mean she's not on the pill, they are sometimes prescribed for reasons other than preventing pregnancy.) Painful insertion of something into the vagina usually results from a combination of tense muscles and lack of lubrication. You can also suggest to her that she grease the applicator with a little KY, especially after removing the first tampon, since they don't just absorb menstrual fluids. (Sorry, I don't know any ways to make the removal less uncomfortable.)
I wasn't saying anything about her sex drive. I was just pointing out that the lack of stimulation caused her to become tighter (btw thanks for the KY info [blush] ).
 
Posted by FireSnake (Member # 1181) on April 14, 2006, 11:43:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
I wasn't saying anything about her sex drive. I was just pointing out that the lack of stimulation caused her to become tighter (btw thanks for the KY info [blush] ).

NP. [Smile] - I know what the tampon thing is like. To me, going from regular masturbation/sex to none in nearly a year sounds like a change in sex drive. Seriously, your friend should talk to a doctor if she's having pain and other issues. Other things to consider are allergic reactions to the feminine hygiene products being used. (Inflammation, sweeling, soreness, irritation, etc... whoever thought it was a good idea to manufacture scented pads and tampons is a moron.)
 
Posted by Thorned0Fortress (Member # 4435) on April 14, 2006, 14:16:
 
quote:
Originally posted by FireSnake:
quote:
Originally posted by Thorned0Fortress:
I wasn't saying anything about her sex drive. I was just pointing out that the lack of stimulation caused her to become tighter (btw thanks for the KY info [blush] ).

NP. [Smile] - I know what the tampon thing is like. To me, going from regular masturbation/sex to none in nearly a year sounds like a change in sex drive. Seriously, your friend should talk to a doctor if she's having pain and other issues. Other things to consider are allergic reactions to the feminine hygiene products being used. (Inflammation, sweeling, soreness, irritation, etc... whoever thought it was a good idea to manufacture scented pads and tampons is a moron.)
Okay.... you obviously can't see my point.
She went without sex and become tight so that tampons didn't fit like they used to.
There was no change in her drive.... she wasn't active and she DID still masturbate, just with no penetration.
(the reason for not inserting anything was because she didn't want to be so loose)
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on April 14, 2006, 14:49:
 
GC = Gynecologist Convention?
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on April 14, 2006, 14:59:
 
quote:
originally posted by garlicguy:
GC = Gynecologist Convention?

Gyrating Cervix?
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on April 14, 2006, 15:31:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:
Gyrating Cervix?

Groovy Chicks?
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 14, 2006, 16:21:
 
quote:
Originally posted by garlicguy:
GC = Gynecologist Convention?

Crap...I had one of those hit on me the last time I was in San Fran. That was a /weird/ night.
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on April 15, 2006, 13:29:
 
Wow... a whole convention hit on you? I'm impressed! [Big Grin]

Here we were all talking about MMF and FFM and you go straight to
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFM
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on April 15, 2006, 14:40:
 
That is what sets dman apart. He has his own approach to things.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 15, 2006, 16:33:
 
Steen...uh...yeah...but not a single one of them was a geek, so I just had to let them down nicely. [Wink]
 
Posted by HalfVast (Member # 3187) on April 15, 2006, 20:42:
 
Sexual Orientation?

You mean there was supposed to be an orientation?

Was that the day I missed in the 6th grade where they told
me all the boys went too one classroom and all the girls went
too the other and...

I missed the whole thing!

This explains so, so much. [shake head]
 


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