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Posted by Shooshie (Member # 2205) on June 27, 2016, 08:51:
I have to admit to being a little conflicted about Apple's decision to use the Lightning jack for audio. It sounds like we'll have to buy a bunch of stuff, and a lot of old stuff will no longer be of any use, so we'll have to dump it.

On the positive side, it will probably mean that those chinese ear-buds that sell for like a dollar will not be compatible with iPhones, so maybe that's a good thing. No more well-intentioned but lousy gifts of headphones that are worthless. (Oh, but it's the thought that counts! Well, think about my thoughts when I hear that grisly-sounding audio through those cheap earbuds; oh, never mind, you don't have to, because I threw them out!)

On the negative side, there are some extremely fine headphones (of which I own a few pair) which use those little jacks, and it's not cool that they may no longer work. Of course, someone could market an adapter jack, and that would make it all good, except that we'll have to carry around the adapter.

Granted, the headphone jack in the iPhone is the lowest piece of tech on the whole device. Not even the buttons, frame, glass, battery... NOTHING ELSE is as low-tech as the headphone jack. I can see how that would rankle Apple's management. I'm not sure I even like the old headphone jack, and I've wondered many times over the years why they didn't replace it with something better. Now that they are, I'm thinking about all the headphones that no longer will work with the iPhone, and wondering if it's worth it.

Oh well, it's much ado about nothing, because there's no stopping it. It's going to happen. Maybe it's time I got rid of my studio luddite headphones and just go with the technological flow. Maybe wireless is the way to go.

So, I was wondering why Nitrozac and Snaggy used Trump as the headphone jack's image in the comic, except that it certainly emphasizes his prick-ish nature. But now I see it. Losing the old audio jack is a good thing, the right thing. Trump is the stereotypical luddite, albeit the noisiest one on the planet. (Take THAT, Rush Limbaugh!) It all makes sense now. I just had to wrap my mind around this news. It's like the floppy drive, optical drive, SCSI, and many other technologies: Apple had to convince me it was the right thing to ditch them, but once I accepted it, I never looked back.

Now, if we can just ditch Trump.

Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on June 27, 2016, 11:50:

Exactly how I feel. I think 95% of any trouble disappears if Apple ships an adapter with the phone. Doubtful, but hope springs eternal. [Razz]

I can't wait until the headphone cord is a thing of the past. While recording, I must have jammed my headphones down on my head a million times by accidentally stepping on the cord. Good thing Sennheisers had those little pop out cord connectors!
Posted by Tom- geeking around (Member # 2876) on July 01, 2016, 05:56:
I have a clear, not conflicted, opinion on this... I find it silly.

Nobody wanted to get rid of the headphone jack... I (as a consumer) want battery life, not necessarily a thinner device at all cost.

I doubt audio quality is going to be any (discernibly) better. Oh, my Sennheisers I know and love won't work with them anymore... what, I need another 29 buck adapter for it to work that adds bulk? thankyouverymuch.. or rather: how about no! And no, I won't buy new 200dollar earphones just because I get a new phone...

what an arrogant move that reduces compatibility between systems even more. I see no reason why Apple doesn't use a standard USB port, now their own proprietary headphone jack? Get a grip....

I believe it's only going to add more chances for Apple to implement DRM into their ecosystem...

If that's really whats going to happen, Apple has lost me as a phone customer forever...

I don't necessarily mind the cable... I distrust wireless systems' reliability (I'm looking at you, Bluetooth)... and another thing to regularly plug in for charging (which I'm sure I'll forget) - ugh! Just let alone another device that's prone to planned obsolescence, as batteries do degrade over time..

Ugh.... Please..
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on July 01, 2016, 11:35:
I already have to use an adapter to go from 1/4" headphone jack (6.35 mm) to the 3.5 mm stereo, so an adapter for lightning wouldn't be a big deal for me.

One hopes that the reason they are getting rid of the headphone socket is to make some room for a larger battery and increase water resistance. (Not that I could get a new iPhone anyway [Roll Eyes] )

I love the lightning connector on my current iPhone. I'm glad it's not a USB on there. [Cool]
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on July 01, 2016, 13:54:
Oh yeah, head phone jacks. When I was setting up my first APRSdroid plotter I found out that there are two standards for the jack. The use of the rings and tip change from Apple and other OEMS. So I had to buy an adapter to change my Samsung to Nokia. All OEMS use the tip for left and the first ring for right, now it gets fun 2nd ring could be ground or Mic. the shield can be Mic or ground. Use the wrong type of plug and the mic will sound garbled and the bass mushy.

Now I have found out that another method exists T,R,R,R,S. that makes for a space hog near the phone jack, maybe limiting battery and other components.
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on July 02, 2016, 09:12:
So...I'm 'on holiday' right now. I saw the retro JoT and wondered if this was real. Skimming thru arstechnica, it looks like this is 'possible, but not confirmed.' So...what's the story?

Not including a free adapter would be incredibly lousy in my opinion, but I expect Apple will be that lousy. If they wanted to be full of win, they'd switch to USB C, allowing for Monoprice gizmos galore. Still, this is the same company that embraced USB C for their dinky laptop, but then only put one port on it. (And an utterly dreadful keyboard.)

I imagine that if anything, a move like this will push me to getting a Bluetooth gizmo before I'd adopt a paid adapter. Then again, I'm not about to get an iPhone 7, so it's sort of moot to me. (I'm hoping to replace my iPhone 4S with an SE when I get back to work. Baby steps...)
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on July 16, 2016, 10:20:
P.S. Anyone who feels deprived in the future of a headphone jack should consider the xkcd Phone 4 [Big Grin] (It has 12!)

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