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Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on November 07, 2007, 09:27:
 
Hi, I'm new to your website and someone sent me this link...

http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1030.html

Is that true about Leopard and porn or is it a joke?
If true, I don't think I'll be buying a mac and getting
Leopard and I didn't know Apple had programs to hide
thinigs like that.

 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on November 07, 2007, 09:29:
 
tell him you can get leapord without those features through your link. (so you get your kickback)
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on November 07, 2007, 09:41:
 
I don't fully understand the e-mail.

"If true, I don't think I'll be buying a mac and getting
Leopard and I didn't know Apple had programs to hide
thinigs like that."

Does this mean s/he will not purchase a Mac, but *will* get Leopard? (The pixies tell me it's possible to run Leopard without a Mac, but I have no interest in such pursuits.)

The most logical answer would be to point out that it was a fun jab at the variety of technologies present in Leopard. Everything there can surely be done with Windows if you're depraved enough. (Which leads to a sick curiosity about how "Jim" took that comic. [Wink] ) Besides, we all know, the Internet is for ... [Razz]
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on November 07, 2007, 11:00:
 
dragonman97 wrote:
The pixies tell me it's possible to run Leopard without a Mac, but I have no interest in such pursuits.

Technically, not true. There's nothing to stop Leopard (and, in fact, all Apple's OS versions) from being run on a virtualized system as is becoming increasingly common for Windows... except for the licensing agreement which specifically prohibits it.

S'actually one of my biggest gripes against Apple.

The pixies are lying to you!

Now... in answer to the email. First, the nice response:
Dear User,
Mac OS and systems are general purpose devices, like most personal computers, and are not devoted to specific purposes.

The Mac OS features -could- be used as we humorously described in the comic, but they are not specifically intended for those purposes. Safari, for example, is simply a web browser. It can be used to check your bank balance or to find directions to a vacation site that you want to drive to as easily as it could be used to view pornography. Nothing in the OS inherantly limits you (although net filtering programs are available and can be installed in order to try and block adult websites if that is your wish).

Sorry for the misunderstanding and we hope you enjoy the rest of our comics.

The somewhat less respectful answer:
ZOMG you are such a noob! It's a comic, not an Apple advertisement. Maybe you should go to a Mac store and try using the OS instead of believing every outlandish rumor you read on the internet.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on November 07, 2007, 12:20:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Steen:
dragonman97 wrote:
The pixies tell me it's possible to run Leopard without a Mac, but I have no interest in such pursuits.

Technically, not true. There's nothing to stop Leopard (and, in fact, all Apple's OS versions) from being run on a virtualized system as is becoming increasingly common for Windows... except for the licensing agreement which specifically prohibits it.

S'actually one of my biggest gripes against Apple.

The pixies are lying to you!

I don't understand. Isn't that exactly what I attributed to the pixies?

I know full well that it can be done, as evidenced by a slew of twunts on Digg. Also, I watched a Google Tech Talk with the VMware Fusion lead which certainly pointed out the common matter of "We're only refraining from doing it for legal reasons." However...the license for Leopard Server suggests this will be allowed (though it's specifically for 'Apple-labeled computer'; read: only virtualized on XServes), which could be a huge boon - and it's been suggested that people vote with their dollars, to convince Apple to back this path for the workstation version. Still, I can't say that Jobs will allow it anytime soon, as OS X probably won't be nearly as stable on J. Random PC. Also, I'm pretty sure the installer checks for the presence of a TPM-like chip on the hardware, which could be virtualized, but the current lame-hacks involve tweaking/rebuilding the kernel (or that's how they did it Tiger anyway).

As I said, I'm not really interested in doing this. I have a MacBook that is absolutely fantastic, and can't say that it would be nearly as good on a Latitude or Thinkpad (though for PCs, I do love the latter).
 
Posted by quantumfluff (Member # 450) on November 07, 2007, 19:18:
 
In all seriousness. Snaggy has a dilemma. This person obviously needs to be beaten with a clue-stick, but they are, after all, a customer. You don't win repeat customers by treating them badly. I think a short, quick explanation on the lines of "The cartoon is a parody of the media hype surrounding Apple's latest OS release, and is meant to be taken in jest. We have the highest regard for Apple's products."

That says just enough to be polite, without falling for the potential trolling of someone playing dumb to see what kind of inane corporate response they can get.
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on November 08, 2007, 03:08:
 
"Hi, I'm Snaggy, me and my naughty friend Nitrozac have just got this new webcam..." [evil]

Or maybe not.
 


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