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Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on May 21, 2010, 07:08:
I found myself with an hour to kill tonight, and there was an electronics store nearby, so like any good geek I went and wandered around, hypnotized by all the blinkenlitz.

I've been thinking of getting some speakers to attach to the TV, something a bit better than the crappy built-in speakers most TVs have. I was thinking of spending maybe $300-500.

Of course a salesman latched onto me and did his best to convince me to spend more, demonstrating a rather nice setup that carried a $1400 price-tag. I listened to his spiel, went ooooh! aaaahhhh! at all the appropriate points in the demo, and then when it was time to go I said "Can you write down the details of this and I'll talk it over with the missus"

So he got a note pad and started writing... "amp, speakers, you'll need a cable for the sub-woofer, and more for this, that, and the other..."

Total cost of the cables for a $1400 sound system?


That included $250 for a HDMI cable (the last one I bought cost $10, and it works fine), $120 for a special cable to the sub-woofer, and $180 for a 4-outlet powerboard that had some magical properties that make the music sound better

Posted by MacManKrisK (Member # 955) on May 21, 2010, 07:19:
That's 49% of the overall cost in cables! I'd imagine he was selling you all Monster Cable cables or some similarly crazilly overpriced brand name.
Posted by littlefish (Member # 966) on May 21, 2010, 08:13:
Was he also trying to sell you things to keep them off the floor? If you aren't using cable elevators then all of the music will leak out through osmosis.
Posted by MacManKrisK (Member # 955) on May 21, 2010, 09:11:

littlefish: is this for real?! *sigh* autophiles...
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on May 21, 2010, 11:05:
____ TFD, Please bend over and assume the position, this won't hurt a bit. Pure BS + more BS. Go to a good hardware store and look at what we in the USA call zip cord. Molded wires they can be bought in various gauges. The smaller the number the larger the conductor, you would not need any thing bigger than 12/14. While you are examining the zip cord notice that one conductor has ribs on its insulation the other one does not, that is a polarity mark like red and black. Depending on the amplifier the subwoofer may need 10/12 but I think that would be over kill.

____ Just hooking up decent speakers to your present system will give you much better sound, the rest is only to pay for his weekend with his squeeze.
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on May 21, 2010, 11:06:

No, seriously, WTF??

Are these people not aware that their cable is already insulated??
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on May 21, 2010, 12:00:
I bought serial connector pc cable for $200 last week. Well my company did ( I ordered it). The last one died and caused a $300,000 peice of equipment to turn itself off, which was really bad. I have no idea what happened but I am betting the old cable was not insulated well enough. I would pay ten times as much for a cable to be garunteed not to have tis problem again.(tubro pump on an MS system turned itself off for those curious).

The funny thing is the cable had written on it, "lifetime garuntee" 100 % moeny back if not satisfied. But you know, by then it was too late, thier really expensive cabel failed, and I will never order a cable from that company again. ( sorry, I don't remember what company it was, I think the web address froma refund was
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on May 21, 2010, 13:08:
____ I have heard of some audio stores offering a speaker break in service, and of course breaking in your cables. WTF you have to teach the wires how to conduct the electrons? Speakers are best when Virgin and start getting less faithful from then on, why should I pay for some one to wear out my speakers?

____ TFD just buy quality speakers and make a trip to the hard ware store for some good zip cord and still have better sound and a heavier wallet. I do not like to lighten the wallet.
Posted by Venture (Member # 32021) on May 21, 2010, 13:30:
I hate pushy salesmen, grr! I bought all the stuff for my system in pieces while they were on sale for being last years model.
Sony reciever 1000 watts $300
Bose 301s $250
Polk 12" sub $100

most of the cables I already had. except the woofer cable.
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on May 21, 2010, 16:57:
TFD: Show the sales guy this and see if he changes his tune:
Posted by quantumfluff (Member # 450) on May 21, 2010, 19:25:
We've all seen the Monster Cable idiocy before. All I can say is "Tubes Rock"
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on May 22, 2010, 01:30:
____ Tubes Do Rock, My latest transmitter is all tube, well except for the balanced modulator but that is only four Germanium Diodes. Tubes are nice for transmitters because they can handle antenna mismatch better than Solid State. Look up the Central Electronics 20A, nice solid little transmitter for working barefoot.

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