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Posted by Shooshie (Member # 2205) on June 22, 2017, 18:31:
Hi. Gotcha! Because you clicked on this and are reading it, you are now momentarily focusing your attention this direction, where I'm sitting. Well... actually I'm standing. I've got a desk where I sit and stand alternately during the day. It's a cool desk, one that I built myself, and I'm sure...

wait a minute. Sorry. I get off on tangents, you know? Do you do that? You mention something, and the next thing you know you're writing about... AUGH! Did it again!

Anyway, the point of my being here today is to tell you that our buds Snaggy and Nitrozac need our help. Folks, All artists in history faced this same dilemma. The most famous — and I don't care whether they were musicians, composers, painters, sculptors, or what have you — required financial assistance in order to do their work. Beethoven had patronage. In his later years he was able to live off his royalties, but he still had his patrons who took care of him. Mozart famously left the court of Salzburg, where he was considered the property of the Church royalty, and set out on his own. Already famous by this time, he was able to make a living, albeit a spare one. He was not good a managing money (translate: he spent what came in) and died poor.

Most of the painters before the 19th century worked for the church or the local royalty. When they reached a certain level of fame, they were able to live comfortably, but "making a living" was always sketchy for artists. (get the pun? eh?)

Comic creators have been supported by print media for over a hundred years, but that has sadly come to a halt in all but a few cases. It's not longer a viable profession, even if you make it past the nearly impossible odds of getting signed by a publishing syndicate.

So, we're in the transition phase. Artists are being transitioned to Patreon arrangements, by which large numbers of people pledge small amounts of money. This is how it's going to be done for the foreseeable future. Unless Trump returns us to the golden age of the Rococo and becomes King and Oligarchical Czar and Sultanish Universal Courtesan & Knight of the Entertainment Realm [KOCSUCKER] of the US of A, and artists once again become the property of the rich. Let's not allow this to happen. Sign up to be a patron of the arts by pledging a small amount to Joy of Tech. I do $10/month or something like that. You don't even notice it. It's safe, nobody is going to flood you with emails, and your privacy is assured. I'm speaking from experience. It's a good organization. You may find yourself pledging to support a lot of artists. But let's start with these guys. They need to keep working. In its heyday, Joy of Tech was where you looked to see what was going on in the tech world, just as much as the headlines page. It's still like that; we just don't think about tech as much as we used to, because it's become such a part of our lives. It's always been exciting watching it develop, though. And JoT has always lampooned its oddly festering craziness.

I hope someday to meet these guys, and I hope that when I do they will say, "remember that post? That was the one that sent us over the top. We made it." C'mon folks. It would be because of all of us. You're doing a good thing.

Posted by Nitrozac (Member # 111) on June 23, 2017, 12:47:
Thanks Shooshie!
This is a great post, and very helpful! The last few years have been a perfect storm of circumstances that seems to make cartooning a bygone thing to do. I blame Zuckerberg [Razz]

It really helps to hear from our loyal steadfast fans. I love you guys! That would be fun to meet up someday, at the 2020 Abacus World Expo (after the apocalypse) perhaps.

Till then, keep on geekin' and feel free to post in our forums, I find it's refreshing from other social media. Your kind words mean a lot to me, and I really appreciate each and every patreon, customer, and liker [Big Grin]
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on July 19, 2017, 08:15:
Hey, been way too long since I posted anything here. I do drop by every so often to keep up with the now rather sparse postings, and of course to check the comics. It is sad to see what Facebook and to some extent Twitter has done to decimate forums, not just this one either. I remember when posts would come in here so fast it was more like a chat room than a bulletin board!

I am also sad to hear that Snaggy and Nitro have had to cut back comic production to take other employment just to keep food on the table. Unfortunately I live in straitened circumstances myself so I can’t contribute to the Patreon - but I am the co-host on a little podcast called The Essential Apple Podcast and you can find us at and Sunday just gone I invited Snaggy and Nitrozac on as guests because 1) I thought they would be interesting people to have on the show, and 2) I hoped that perhaps in my own little way I could help them get a little bit more exposure and perhaps drum up a little bit of support, and of course by having such vaunted guests I am hoping to perhaps garner a few more listeners for our show too!

Well it was a total blast and if you would like to hear our Benevolent Geeky Dictators having a bit of a chat and quite a lot of laughing and wondering what the hell they’d gotten themselves into feel free to go over to our website and check out the show. Or you can use this link to get straight to the audio

And yes I really must make an effort to actually post occasionally not just lurk
Posted by CommanderShroom (Member # 2097) on July 19, 2017, 08:57:
It was a fun listen. Now I know what our benevolent overlords voices sound like.

And kudos on the podcast, Serenak. I made sure to add it to my feed.
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on July 19, 2017, 12:21:
Serenak! That was a hoot, thanks for having us on! [Big Grin]
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on July 20, 2017, 05:21:
It was absolutely our pleasure... and thank you for the big ups on Twitter and the comic inspired by part of our discussion! Deeply honoured and thanks for all of it. Let’s hope it drums up a bit of support for JoT

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