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Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 10, 2014, 12:25:
 
Some one took command of the air-plane and forced the pilots to land at an Isolated field.

Electronic failure the pilots bellied it in and then it sank.

The Millennium Falcon grabbed it out of the sky and it is in orbit or on its way to some other planet.

No wreckage and no jet fuel on the water.

Your ideas.
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on March 10, 2014, 20:33:
 
In 2009, Air France flight 447 disappeared on a flight out of Rio - the wreckage wasn't found until 2011.

It took 73 years to find the Titanic.

The ocean is big, and deep.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 10, 2014, 21:24:
 
During my stint in the U.S.Navy I was SAR rated.

SAR (Search And Rescue) after Forty Eight it became Search And Recovery

First day the pattern 15 X 15 miles winds and surface currants would change the shape.

Because of no wreckage it landed somewhere, bellied in the water intact and sank. When we were flying the pattern we called the process mowing the grass.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 11, 2014, 14:50:
 
Interesting Twist.

National Post.

Yup turn off the transponders and drop to 100 meters.
 
Posted by GMx (Member # 1523) on March 11, 2014, 22:19:
 
Desmond didn't punch in the numbers in time, so the plane crashed on a mysterious island with a smoke monster. [Wink]
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on March 11, 2014, 22:58:
 
quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Desmond didn't punch in the numbers in time, so the plane crashed on a mysterious island with a smoke monster. [Wink]

Horrible, but something similar was running through my head.

Seriously - it's 2014 - we should have better data, no? This isn't the age of the Bermuda Triangle. :/
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on March 12, 2014, 06:09:
 
Here's a plausible non-tinfoil-hat theory

tl;dr - structural flaw in antenna mount could have cut communications and caused loss of cabin pressure, rendering occupants unconscious.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 12, 2014, 08:18:
 
Tfd While this is plausible I am sticking with a UFO grabbed the 777.

Has anyone checked with Google Earth time lapse to see if there is a debris field in that area of the world?
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on March 13, 2014, 14:59:
 
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mobile=y

which would fit in the broken antenna theory too
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on March 13, 2014, 16:14:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mobile=y

which would fit in the broken antenna theory too

The plot thickens - score 1 for the Internet of Things, eh?

Now, if they had a pilot on par w/Sully, things might not be too awful. That's doubtful, but curious nonetheless.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 13, 2014, 17:47:
 
Or somebody wanted to goto Bangladesh?
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on March 13, 2014, 19:45:
 
If it landed in a real airport anywhere short of the DPRK, word would have gotten out within days. If not through the authorities, someone probably would have friggin' tweeted it.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 13, 2014, 21:22:
 
I was not suggesting that it may have landed at an Airport with a control tower! Have you ever gone Island hopping in the Bahamas? Some of those Airports are just cleared paths in the jungle.
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on March 14, 2014, 08:48:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
Have you ever gone Island hopping in the Bahamas? Some of those Airports are just cleared paths in the jungle.

I've used airports where the local villagers had to chase the pigs off the runway before takeoff, but they don't take 777's. That narrows the field quite a bit.

The local press carried the '4 hour' story (based on the engines phoning home to Rolls Royce - we live in the Sci-Fi Future) with a map showing that flight radius from the point where they lost main transponder comms. Basically anywhere from Pakistan to Japan, with a fair chunk of Northern Australia thrown in for fun.

If it's a "lost cabin pressure and cruised on autopilot till they ran out of fuel" scenario, they need to be searching the Sea of Japan, or North Pacific.
If it's a tinfoil-hat scenario, that circle included India, China, Korea, Indonesia... close to 1/2 of the worlds population, including several countries with pretty dodgy governments, or no real government at all. A jet with transponders off **could** sneak into a disused or makeshift airport (eg some of the aussie mining towns have landing strips that **could** take a 777 if the pilot had a death wish) but then a 777's not easy to hide from a satellite search, you'd need an effing big shed.

We may never know. It took 2 years to find the Air France wreckage, and that was right on the flight path. If this one's off course, it may never be found.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on March 14, 2014, 17:26:
 
I am really hoping that one of the pilots decided to steal the plane and sell it or sell it for parts. Pilots have commented that you could even have landed that plane on a dirt runway as long as you have 5000 feet ( slate.com). Also, there are enough dodgy airlines in africa where they might not mind if the parts are coming from this plane. ( most of these airlines are on the black list).


I would bet most of the families will be hoping for this as well. And if the plane crashed and they are dead it is unfortunate becaue the greieing process will take much longer to start.
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on March 15, 2014, 11:12:
 
The plot thickens.
They're now saying the plane flew for 7 hours after the transponders were cut, that puts them anywhere from Somalia to Japan, or Kazakhstan, Australia, Mongolia...
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on March 15, 2014, 17:34:
 
if it flew for so long I wonder if they were flying slowly to conserve fuel to fly further? I don't think that at normal cruising alt. and spped that plane had the fuel to fly so long.
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on March 15, 2014, 21:45:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
if it flew for so long I wonder if they were flying slowly to conserve fuel to fly further? I don't think that at normal cruising alt. and spped that plane had the fuel to fly so long.

Todays news said 6 hours.

They needed 5 just to make it to Beijing, their planned destination.
I haven't seen anything on how much fuel they were carrying, but the chinese airports are notoriously congested, long delays are commonplace, so I expect they'd plan for some time in a holding pattern waiting to land.

The theory-du-jour is that the plane didn't head NW towards India as originally thought (they think India would have spotted it) but SW over the Indian Ocean. There's not a lot down there except the Seychelles, which would be about a 7 hour flight. Could be that's where they were aiming for, and the fuel didn't last as long as they'd hoped.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 15, 2014, 21:54:
 
Apparently Jet liner engines the APU (Auxiliary power Unit) The flight power boost systems (Hydraulics) are all related to ET. "ET phone home."

Tonight on CNN evening news was about all of the theories that are being cooked up. Hans Solo give us our airliner back!
 
Posted by zorgon (Member # 546) on March 17, 2014, 20:03:
 
This guy says MH370 was hijacked; the hijacker(s) then deliberately turned off the radar transponder and some other systems, then scooted up next to a Singapore Airlines 777 heading for Europe so that they wouldn't show up as a unique and mysterious contact on military radars ... then dropped off in a radar shadow area somewhere in ... Central Asia?

No. Too complex. Aliens. It was aliens.
 
Posted by zorgon (Member # 546) on March 17, 2014, 20:05:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
In 2009, Air France flight 447 disappeared on a flight out of Rio - the wreckage wasn't found until 2011.

This isn't quite correct - they found a large amount of debris (and bodies) floating after ca. 5 days. But in that case they knew roughly where the plane was, and it crashed hard enough to break up the plane. I suppose it could have ditched clean, then sank. But there are immersion triggered EPIRBs on board every plane ...
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on March 18, 2014, 19:29:
 
A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 18, 2014, 22:54:
 
Interesting
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on March 19, 2014, 03:14:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email

Patrick Smith, of Ask the Pilot, seems to concur that it's a decent possibility:
http://www.askthepilot.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

It does make a hell of a lot more sense - very much a Hanlon's Razor sort of answer.

Also, the thing that bugs me about a na'er-do-well explanation is that people should be coming out of the woodwork to claim responsibility as chief-baddies...and no one has done that.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 19, 2014, 13:39:
 
NO, No, no It can not be an equipment failure it has to be a conspiracy, it just has to.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on March 19, 2014, 15:13:
 
The Sunday Sport newspaper knows where it is. It's here.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on March 19, 2014, 16:57:
 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email

Patrick Smith, of Ask the Pilot, seems to concur that it's a decent possibility:
http://www.askthepilot.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

It does make a hell of a lot more sense - very much a Hanlon's Razor sort of answer.

Also, the thing that bugs me about a na'er-do-well explanation is that people should be coming out of the woodwork to claim responsibility as chief-baddies...and no one has done that.

Unfortunately this doesn't work with the ping data they have from the satelite. The two arcs would not be reached flying for that airport.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 21, 2014, 07:41:
 
Lets go with the on-board fire scene with cascading electrical failure. Systems are going off as their Circuit breakers trip. The engine reporting equipment is at the engines and only Coax to the antennas.

Now what we have is a very large private plane with some analog controls and indicators. Does that thing have a wet compass or a gyro-compass, was the crew still alive or was trim the only thing steering the plane? Winds aloft, were they all aboard a powered glider?
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on March 21, 2014, 17:44:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
Lets go with the on-board fire scene with cascading electrical failure. Systems are going off as their Circuit breakers trip. The engine reporting equipment is at the engines and only Coax to the antennas.

Now what we have is a very large private plane with some analog controls and indicators. Does that thing have a wet compass or a gyro-compass, was the crew still alive or was trim the only thing steering the plane? Winds aloft, were they all aboard a powered glider?

I don't see a fire destroying avery system tht allows communication but saving every one needed for flying.. fire is too indescrimatory.
 
Posted by Mr. Geek 2U (Member # 28663) on March 21, 2014, 18:50:
 
Mr. MoMan & Ashitaka,

I remember about a decade or so ago that a private jet carrying a golf pro, Payne Stewart, and crew had a sudden decompression event that suddenly debilitated the crew and killed them by hypoxia. There apparently was little time to put on oxygen masks. The jet was flying from Orlando, Florida to Dallas, Texas. During the flight there was a sudden turn off course and the plane headed northwest for many hours. NTSB officials believe the turn was a reaction to the decompression, but the pilots very quickly lost the ability to fly. Fighter jets dispatched to escort the plane witnessed the unconscious crew and frost on the windows. The plane ran out of fuel and crashed in South Dakota, way, way, way off course. I thought about that tragedy when I heard that the plane went off course and became unresponsive. I can see where smoke could have rapidly poisoned all aboard, and yet the plane would not have been damaged enough to stop flying. The story from this pilot seems consistent to the Payne Stewart crash.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 21, 2014, 23:13:
 
Al Arabiya News
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 25, 2014, 10:34:
 
It appears that Rolls Royce Engines phoned home, Inmarsat who also provides high precision signals to John Deere Star fire GPS units, Tractors and Combines. Has deduced that the MH-370 Flight came down in the Indian Ocean.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on March 26, 2014, 15:09:
 
which in my mind makes the mystery greater. Somehow it would be easier to belive teh the plane went north, but while it seems the plane went south, the logical peies of why the plane went south do not fit well together.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 26, 2014, 16:11:
 
Well they knew where their Satellite was and what way it was travelling, then by looking at the Doppler shift they could deduce the direction of the plane. Not unlike how your dashboard GPS knows where it is from the timing signals from the GPS Sats.
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on March 27, 2014, 08:20:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
which in my mind makes the mystery greater. Somehow it would be easier to belive teh the plane went north, but while it seems the plane went south, the logical peies of why the plane went south do not fit well together.

Plausible theory: Something went wrong, (maybe a fire, maybe the 'bad antenna mount' theory I mentioned earlier, maybe something completely else, we may never know) they turned the plane around towards the nearest available landing strip, then the pilots lost consciousness and the plane just cruised along on its last heading until it ran out of fuel.

Without the black box, we'll probably never know.
So what are the chances of finding the black box?

It's unlikely any substantial parts of the plane are still afloat after (almost) 3 weeks in the water.

The black box has a sonic beacon that starts when it hits water, and has batteries for 30 days, 2/3 of that time's already passed, so searchers will only cover a tiny fraction of the half-million square nautical mile search area before the batteries run out.

Which leaves a 'brute force' sonar search, in a poorly mapped area not far from Antarctica, with a big undersea volcanic range that will make spotting objects on the bottom damn near impossible.

Don't bet the rent on the black box ever being found.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 27, 2014, 10:34:
 
During the Air France search, they towed the underwater hydrophone in many areas. Until the batteries would be known dead after exhausting many areas they went back to formally thought clean areas and found the big pieces. However the surface debris field was found right away.

Just one degree by one degree search is 3440 square miles, at 44. S or N

Something that bothers me is that my Private pilot friends and charter fishing boats on the Great Lakes must carry Eperbs, Shock or Water activated floating radio beacons, Why didn't this air plane have one?

BoatSafe.com


wmjmarine
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on March 27, 2014, 13:03:
 
Apparently this plane did have several of the water-activated floating radio beacons. That would suggest to me that impact was severe enough to destroy them. A supersonic spiral-in from high altitude perhaps.

Did the Air France crash's floating beacons activate?

If this is a suicide/mass murder situation, then putting the plane into the southern Indian Ocean was a good way to hide the deed. Especially if the person doing it didn't know about the pinging engines.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 27, 2014, 22:48:
 
MA has finally admitted that there were Lithium-Ion Batteries in the cargo hold.

This is like the flight in Fla a few decades back where O2 generating canisters were flown, caught fire and brought down an airliner.

Damn it hasmat and people should not be on the same air plane.
 
Posted by Xanthine (Member # 736) on March 28, 2014, 19:48:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Plausible theory: Something went wrong, (maybe a fire, maybe the 'bad antenna mount' theory I mentioned earlier, maybe something completely else, we may never know) they turned the plane around towards the nearest available landing strip, then the pilots lost consciousness and the plane just cruised along on its last heading until it ran out of fuel.

About a week ago, I read an article by a professional pilot postulating just that: there was an on-board emergency, almost certainly a fire (something about pulling buses, which would account for the loss of communication), the pilot did exactly what he was supposed to do and turn the plane towards the nearest landing strip, and then everyone passed out.

Without the data recorders we'll never know, but a fire and frantic efforts to deal with the situation strike me as the most parsimonious explanation.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on March 29, 2014, 11:47:
 
Hi All

During all of the reporting, I have been baffled by how often the news services get ocean searches wrong, Four foot swells are a like a mogul when skiing, what is on the other side? CNN is the funnest as they are devoting so much time to the story, and the supposed experts are even funnier.

Now enter the conspiracy groups and their theories, WhooBoy. Here's a good one.

PressTV.ir

Just what we need remotely piloted Air Liners (Drones)
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on April 05, 2014, 13:24:
 
Well, Well, Well, The Chinese claim to have heard one chirp from the Black boxes, at 25S and 100E

Interesting Very Interesting.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on April 05, 2014, 15:39:
 
https://www.google.com/maps/place/25%C2%B000%2700.0%22S+100%C2%B000%2700.0%22E/@-25,100,5z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on April 05, 2014, 15:40:
 
I hope this is real, but does anyone else get the feeling the Chinese are just "finding" things just so they can say they found something?

Like those original satellite shots that turned out to be a mistake...

The Mysterious object that turned out to be a jellyfish... how [crazy] can you get, it was obviously a jellyfish from the footage.

and I saw footage of them netting another mysterious object... a Bull kelp. [Roll Eyes]

They could use someone who has spent a day at the beach!

Rant over.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 05, 2014, 15:46:
 
The Times article said that the Chinese didn't want to say for sure that it was the black box as their tracker could be confused by a whale. How the hell does a device that pings an active radio transponder get a response from a whale? Whales just magically return pings at 37.5 kHz?
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on April 05, 2014, 17:24:
 
Well I have heard two freqs mentioned in the news. The gear a Hydrophone. Special Microphone for under water. A real high gain Amplifier, Noise filters to block out the tow ships noise, and other circuits. Any part of the circuit could especially the Amplifier do a freq. Double In fact I have several Transmitters that use those circuits, they look like amplifiers. So a dolphin, Porpoise or whale could make a chirp that could pass the Mic. and then double in the amplifier and appear in the right place on the spectrum analyzer. However the fundamental would also show unless the bandwidth of the spectrum analyzer is too narrow.

One Chirp does not prove anything, however they did post the location so that other ships could sail to that position.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on April 06, 2014, 07:21:
 
OMG. are you FREAKING POOPING ME. The gear that the Chinese are using is simpler than the Fish locator I have on my deck boat!

Then the OZ ship a few hundred Clicks away claims to have heard a ping.

NBC News.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 06, 2014, 19:41:
 
Has anyone else thought that the plane may have been heading for Perth -- with nefarious intent?
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on April 06, 2014, 22:25:
 
spungo: hmmm, I thought they might be heading for Perth, but didn't think about the nefarious angle. chilling
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 06, 2014, 23:10:
 
I imagine Perth is quite vulnerable amongst Oz cities, if you come in low over the Indian Ocean below radar.
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on April 07, 2014, 00:49:
 
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
I imagine Perth is quite vulnerable amongst Oz cities, if you come in low over the Indian Ocean below radar.

That bit of ocean is actually very closely watched, part of our multi-billion-dollar effort to keep a few dozen refugee boats per year from arriving on our hallowed shores.

You'd have a much better chance of sneaking in on the East coast, we're not so paranoid about our Pacific neighbors.

But I really doubt if it was a flying-bomb operation, if that was the plan, wouldn't it be easier to hijack a plane that was already destined for Australia?
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 07, 2014, 10:31:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:

But I really doubt if it was a flying-bomb operation, if that was the plan, wouldn't it be easier to hijack a plane that was already destined for Australia?

Well, if you're gonna use common sense... ;-)
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on April 07, 2014, 11:03:
 
The course flown is troubling me, was it on auto pilot? I doubt that, was it just trimmed and flying along?

If on auto pilot when fuel ran out the auto pilot would pull back on the yoke, the plane would nose up until the wings stalled and it stated a tail spin backward until tail fist into the waters surface that is what destroyed the pingers on the AF 447

If trimmed out correctly it would almost do a Sully landing, maybe that is why there is no debris?
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 07, 2014, 14:52:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:

If trimmed out correctly it would almost do a Sully landing, maybe that is why there is no debris?

That's almost worse, floating around in life jackets waiting for a shark to eat you, no land for a thousand miles, no one knows you're there. If you're lucky you get to die from thirst.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 07, 2014, 15:21:
 
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:

If trimmed out correctly it would almost do a Sully landing, maybe that is why there is no debris?

That's almost worse, floating around in life jackets waiting for a shark to eat you, no land for a thousand miles, no one knows you're there. If you're lucky you get to die from thirst.
And if you're unlucky...cannibalism takes hold?

I think in that scenario, there would also be a fricking plane in the ocean, which might show up in the satellite imagery - unless it sunk before the pictures were taken? Still, the clusters of people in life jackets ought to have showed up. I know there's a lot of ocean to review, but such things should stand out in some way from lots and lots of blue.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on April 07, 2014, 16:01:
 
I was postulating a Payne Stewart flight, no one in control. The plane bellies in and sinks with little damage.
 
Posted by spungo (Member # 1089) on April 07, 2014, 16:03:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
I was postulating a Payne Stewart flight, no one in control. The plane bellies in and sinks with little damage.

Sounds about the most likely. A zombie plane. I wonder if you can still 'hear' the ELT in a submerged-but-intact plane. Wouldn't the fuselage make a Faraday cage?
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on April 07, 2014, 18:07:
 
Interesting thought, however I think the B-777 is a fibreglass composite air plane. Depending on how much Carbon fibre was used in the Epoxy how stealthy it may have been. It definitely needs the transponders, to show up on ATC. Radar.
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on April 07, 2014, 21:14:
 
quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:

But I really doubt if it was a flying-bomb operation, if that was the plan, wouldn't it be easier to hijack a plane that was already destined for Australia?

Well, if you're gonna use common sense... ;-)
Workmate correctly pointed out that the ideal would have been a plane flying *out* of Oz, so it had full fuel tanks,
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on April 08, 2014, 02:54:
 
Schneier said some time ago that said plot won't happen again - once was enough to wake us up to the threat and prevent it in the future. Reinforced cockpit doors and an aware cabin full of passengers will almost certainly eliminate such a re-occurrence.

MH370 is its own beast - a wildly different mystery. It was probably mechanical - if it was deliberate, it was a pretty fscking pointless move. Although, typing that makes me think of an episode of Luther that involved a decidedly evil plot by a deranged fsckwit. Still, that guy make sure people knew about him - absolutely no one has stepped forward and claimed responsibility for this disappearance, which makes for one rather pitiful bogeyman.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on April 08, 2014, 07:44:
 
This is the flight path that the mother ship wanted him to fly so that there would not be any of those nasty hydrocarbon fuels left on board as they went out of the atmosphere.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on April 30, 2014, 07:40:
 
Who moved the Hay Stack?

Time

Science and Math Fight!
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on June 18, 2014, 12:42:
 
After re-examining the Imersat Data?

The new calculations show the most probable location as 36.02 South 88.57 East. Use your favourite mapping program and zoom out a long way, to see that it is a long way from any where.

That is one big hay stack.
 
Posted by Ashitaka (Member # 4924) on June 18, 2014, 15:12:
 
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
After re-examining the Imersat Data?

The new calculations show the most probable location as 36.02 South 88.57 East. Use your favourite mapping program and zoom out a long way, to see that it is a long way from any where.

That is one big hay stack.

I think they will find it in about 50 years.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on June 18, 2014, 22:12:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ashitaka:
quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
After re-examining the Imersat Data?

The new calculations show the most probable location as 36.02 South 88.57 East. Use your favourite mapping program and zoom out a long way, to see that it is a long way from any where.

That is one big hay stack.

I think they will find it in about 50 years.
...or as soon as the NSA thinks there's some valuable intel down there. [Wink]
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on June 19, 2014, 11:04:
 
Not really new info but, it came up while I was searching for fish cameras.

The Guardian.
 


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