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Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on December 03, 2010, 17:14:
 
my beloved G3 Pismo PowerBook died tonight, we think. Even if it's not completely dead, we're going to buy a new laptop. Our budget is $500. What can we expect to get for that price, and where could we find it? Links, recommendations, sales offers, etc., appreciated.

(of course i want an apple, but i'm open open to other systems.)
 
Posted by DoctorWho (Member # 392) on December 03, 2010, 17:39:
 
Try here.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on December 03, 2010, 18:27:
 
quote:
Originally posted by DoctorWho:
Try here.

the link didn't work for me, but then i'm reading on my nokia. What search parameters did you use?
 
Posted by MacManKrisK (Member # 955) on December 03, 2010, 19:07:
 
Oooh! I can answer that! Keywords: "Apple Laptop" Price: "$400-$500"
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on December 03, 2010, 21:21:
 
A super quick Google search found me these...

http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?count=5&action=showcat&cat=Computers%3EMac%3EApple+Laptops%3EiBook

http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?count=5&action=showcat&cat=Computers%3EMac%3EApple+Laptops%3EMacBook

(MacBook 2.1 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 1GB | 120GB | ComboDrive | Airport | BT | 13.3 inch screen, part # MB402LL | $629.99)

Used Mac dealers...
http://lowendmac.com/dealers/index.shtml

http://www.powermax.com/preowned_macs

I should see if my Mom wants to sell her iBook. [Smile]
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on December 03, 2010, 21:32:
 
Or just settle for a ~$300 PC laptop that will be brand new and last you a good many years.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on December 03, 2010, 21:36:
 
Thanks, guys. I looked at the search results. I think I'm gonna try getting something on eBay. I placed a bid on a MacBook, but of course the reserve wasn't met, so I'll wait a few days and see what the bid gets up to.

In the meantime, we're using Jonathan's iBook G4, from which we can't print. So we're online, but I can't print out my crochet patterns and baking recipes. [ohwell]

I was wondering, how do I find out if an HDD I have in the PowerBook would fit into a MacBook?
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on December 04, 2010, 04:47:
 
____ Laptops, I thought that someone got a new one every time they sat down.

____ Portable computers: Observations of an old man.

____ Not all new bargains are, they may be factory refurbs. If you are shopping at a store that uses a [Smile] . Look at the model number they some times have OEMs place a special code in the model number (WM) of their products.

____ Some of the Win. boxes can not be booted from a thumb drive, it depends on what expense the manufacturer put into the BIOS chip. That also means that a boot floppy, or ISO in a USB CDdrive will not boot that machine.

____ It all goes back to how much are you willing to spend. "If you are buying oats purely on price I can offer some pretested oats."
 
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on December 04, 2010, 16:23:
 
Rhonwyyn what symptoms of "deadness"? My FiL's 12" G4 white iBook (1.4GHz - last of breed) stopped turning on the other day - he was freaked (he has come to love that little Mac) so went onto UK ebay and picked up another identical one for £165 plus postage and is amazingly pleased with it... he sent me the old "broken" one to see if it could be fixed, sure would not respond to the power on switch using battery or AC - suddenly remembered an old trick for laptops that refuse to recognise the power on button and took out the battery and AC feed and left it 5 mins. Replaced battery and "Boom" as SJ would say - it lives!!!! - shut it off and did the ctrl-alt-shfit and power button, then restarted a second time making sure to do the Cmd(Apple)-Alt-P-R to zap the PRAM and since then it hasn't missed a beat as I tested it by letting it run for various periods performing either restarts or shutdown/reboots.

In my opinion if you want an Apple get an Apple - even if it means a second user Apple vs a new Windows one... sure you can buy some cheap Windows PC laptops, but if you want an Apple it will always feel second best. If you can stretch to a white MacBook I would advise you to do so - but avoid the Core Duo models, they were v 1.0 efforts and have all the bugs that were mostly removed in the much superior Core2Duo ones. All the Pros are of course lovely - but the increased features have never seemed worth the extra premium in price for home users to me.

Of course the bonus of any intel based Mac - you can use Virtual Box, Parallels or VMware Fusion to run Linux or Windows virtual machines inside your OS X - personally I use Virtual Box because it is free and does everything I require (the other two cost money but do have some abilities VB can't match... but not enough to tempt me thankyouverymuchindeed [Wink] )
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on December 04, 2010, 16:48:
 
I've fixed 'dead' laptops several times by opening the case, checking all the connectors are tight, then closing it up again.

It only takes one connector working a little loose to 'kill' a laptop.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on December 05, 2010, 01:53:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
I've fixed 'dead' laptops several times by opening the case, checking all the connectors are tight, then closing it up again.

It only takes one connector working a little loose to 'kill' a laptop.

My dad offered to solder the connector, but at this point, i just want a faster computer. The pismo's been a great workhorse, but i think it's timeto retire it.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on December 05, 2010, 08:12:
 
TFD just meant to verify that all the connectors are 'snapped in.' Soldering connections in a computer, if you don't know *everything* about how it's wired...is a pretty risky maneuver.
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on December 05, 2010, 09:50:
 
My Pismo was dead once because I didn't push the processor down hard enough on the board after adding a new harddrive. If yours just died for without reason, like dropping or opening it up, and the battery is still OK, I doubt it's a loose connection, but then again, ya never know.

But yeah, it's time you got a newer Mac. Go for an Intel chip, not G3 or G4 (like Serenak says... Core2Duo ones)
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on December 05, 2010, 18:10:
 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
TFD just meant to verify that all the connectors are 'snapped in.' Soldering connections in a computer, if you don't know *everything* about how it's wired...is a pretty risky maneuver.

Correct.

I've **never** taken a soldering iron to the inside of any computer. In my hands, a soldering iron is a dangerous weapon, I might as well use a large hammer.

quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
If yours just died for without reason, like dropping or opening it up, and the battery is still OK, I doubt it's a loose connection

Connectors on desktop computers usually stay put, but laptops are getting moved all the time, every time you pick them up the case flexes just a little, and thousands of those little flexes can add up to a millimetre shift that breaks a connection.

My hardware skills are very limited, but the 'tweak the connectors' trick works about half the time.
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on December 05, 2010, 21:13:
 
Welp, I bit the bullet. $500 + $10 s/h for a 13" MacBook Core 2 (Santa Rosa). The black edition. We'll see how it all works out!

EDIT: Snaggy, thanks for the link to Low End Macs! That's how I came across the listing for the MacBook. Thank you so much!!
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on December 05, 2010, 21:32:
 
Awesome :-)
 


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