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Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on June 13, 2007, 09:22:
 
Anyone know anything about cell phones? [Confused]

Mine is a Motorola V710, and it won't charge. I've tried it with a new battery, same thing. The phone works fine, it just won't charge the battery. I also tried a different charger, but no luck.

I'm just going to hunt down the manual to see if it can help, (edit: it couldn't) but I thought I'd ask out here in case anyone has had a similar issue.

Basically, my question is, are cell phones junk when they break?
[cry baby]
 
Posted by zesovietrussian (Member # 1177) on June 13, 2007, 09:43:
 
The cell's busted, and the 29th is only a few days away. How convenient [Wink]
 
Posted by BooBooKitty (Member # 5566) on June 13, 2007, 09:45:
 
Usually it's cheaper to replace the phone than it is to get it fixed. Go for a Sony Ericsson. ;-)
 
Posted by business attire (Member # 6102) on June 13, 2007, 10:05:
 
always check the power supply, then any connections.

sounds simple but...
all necessary light switches on?
use multiple sockets?
check the battery terminals for cleanliness?

I once swore my new monitor was completely dead... until my brother plugged it in.
 
Posted by TheMoMan (Member # 1659) on June 13, 2007, 10:27:
 
Snaggy _____________________ Have you tried a car charger? One of my wall warts stopped charging the phones.

I have found that half the charger is in the phone the other unit is just the source, if it will not charge a known good battery, its landfill material.

I will probably get flak on this but I have had good luck with Motorola, however your mileage may vary. The local carriers here in the woods all recommend Moto, so the call is yours. Also once the unit is old enough to need new batteries, if I bought new batteries then the phone died.
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on June 13, 2007, 10:36:
 
yep. quadruple checked all power supplies, connections, cleaned them, poked them, prodded them, and I tried a car charger. no dice.

I'm going to go into the shop and borrow a battery, then reset the thing, but I'm assuming I'll have walk out with a new phone.

rant: I really just want a super simple phone that's just a phone with big buttons and no features and no annoying "helpful" alarms that always seem to go off at 4 am. [Mad]
 
Posted by -ct- (Member # 209) on June 13, 2007, 10:59:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
....
Basically, my question is, are cell phones junk when they break?
[cry baby]

yes


(we're assuming you plugged the wall-wart into the wall and checked the voltages coming off the connector, and they're good, right?)


(ooooh, palindrome post count [crazy] )
 
Posted by business attire (Member # 6102) on June 13, 2007, 11:06:
 
no way! not junk!

Paperweight, anybody? Or something to chuck at the cat when she's clawing the couch?
 
Posted by iWanToUseaMac (Member # 4993) on June 13, 2007, 11:31:
 
Believe it or not, my mom still uses one of these, quite reliable phones are them.
Nokia FTW! (until the 29th)
 
Posted by maximile (Member # 3446) on June 13, 2007, 12:13:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:
rant: I really just want a super simple phone that's just a phone with big buttons and no features and no annoying "helpful" alarms that always seem to go off at 4 am. [Mad]

I know the feeling. I'm hoping that an iPhone mini will come along to fill that gap in my life.
 
Posted by CommanderShroom (Member # 2097) on June 13, 2007, 12:31:
 
Snaggy,

If the V710 has that odd little flat charger plug, I can tell you what may have happened.

More than likely the bottom plug on the phone has probably broken loose from the board, or worse yet, the plastic has cracked internally not allowing it to make a decent connection. I have seen it happen to a lot of that style. The Nextels a previous company gave us were infamous for it.
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on June 13, 2007, 13:30:
 
Weird. Now the phone is coming to life every now and then, when no one is touching it or even around it... it plays it's creepy little song and works for a minute or so, then dies again...

OMG! IT'S THE UN-DEAD PHONE!
 
Posted by fs (Member # 1181) on June 13, 2007, 13:47:
 
Snaggy, do you have one of the plans that lets you get a new phone every couple years? Conveniently enough, my dad's phones always die just as that kicks in (he's pretty hard on them).
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on June 13, 2007, 14:15:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Snaggy:


OMG! IT'S THE UN-DEAD PHONE!

Quick! Baptize the damned thing! It's the only sure way to save its soul... and yours too.

Well, probably... [blush]
 
Posted by ASM65816 (Member # 712) on June 13, 2007, 19:06:
 
quote:
Mine is a Motorola V710, and it won't charge.
Some people don't seem to like it.     [Eek!]

quote:
Motorola V710 Phone (Verizon Wireless)
 

Pure Garbage, August 27, 2006 (rated: 1 out of 5)
    By  Gadgetman

The V710 mobile phone is complete garbage in just about every respect. STAY AWAY FROM THIS ONE!

I have never witnessed such poor quality control in my life. I have had this thing for 2 long years and can't wait to get rid of it! I will never buy another Motorola product.
 

Poor quality control on this phone, May 30, 2006 (rated: 1 out of 5)
    By Trojanmedicine

I bought the phone more than a year ago primarily because of its attractive appearance and blue-tooth options. 1 year later, and after my third replacement, i finally gave up on the phone and didn't even want a free replacement. i'll list below some of it's fatal faults which seem to be consistent with other posters:
  1. The camera phone takes exceptionally poor-quality pictures
  2. The battery life is unacceptably poor
  3. The inlet to the phone malfunctions so half the time you're fighting with the phone to charge it
  4. It's heavy as a rock
  5. Initially, the phone keys rubbed against the screen scratching it.
  6. The border around the camera lens was poorly glued on that it fell of on the second day I had it.
  7. I had it replaced twice because the screen went dead the first time; the second time the inlet to the charger got loose and i was unable to charge it.

Each time i went in to verizon, i was made to feel it was my fault for the poorly built POS. one time they pointed out a scratch on the phone implying it was my fault and that i must've dropped it. I had phones in the past, dropped them 100x more than this puppy and none gave me problems. In the end, after my third replaced phone went dead, I simply gave up and bought a differnt model.

The only Pro to this phone is the recption. Great voice quality and reception but when everything else is falling appart, it's not worth it.

http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-V710-Phone-Verizon-Wireless/dp/customer-reviews/B0002W2H2K


 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on June 13, 2007, 20:26:
 
yeah i don't like this phone too much, mainly from a software point of view though. This is the first cell phoned I've owned, I'm not sure if the software end of things gets any better. I find it way too hard to navigate the menus, or find what I want.

The reception on it is *excellent* and it does feel good in the hand.

- camera is awful, but I never used it though, since you can't just connect to the computer to transfer pictures, you had to pay for email transfer. The bluetooth options are crippled here, so I could never connect it to my Mac. [Mad]

- they are right about the charging connector... it sucks. Obviously. [Razz]

Sure wish an iPhone was an option. yeah maximile, an iPhone mini/nano would rock.
 
Posted by zesovietrussian (Member # 1177) on June 13, 2007, 21:57:
 
Take a look at Treo 700p if you're looking for a replacement - it has better functionality than the iPhone (though doesn't look anywhere near as cool,) and you can easily find a used one for well under $200 nowadays. If you have unlimited data on your plan, there's a neat little app called PDANet that lets you tether to your laptop at no extra charge.
 
Posted by fs (Member # 1181) on June 14, 2007, 02:41:
 
quote:
Originally posted by iWanToUseaMac:
Believe it or not, my mom still uses one of these, quite reliable phones are them.
Nokia FTW! (until the 29th)

Our on-call phone was one of those. It was indestructible. I dropped it down two flights of concrete stairs and slammed it in a fire door and it still worked. (Accidently!)

Maswan has a Sony Ericsson Cybershot. It looks nice, I haven't used it though. You could ask him what he thinks of it in IRC though.
 
Posted by Callipygous (Member # 2071) on June 14, 2007, 02:46:
 
Motorola 'phones are living proof that you can gild a turd, and not only that, but you can sell them afterwards in large numbers. Their software is possibly the worst in the industry, and they are have a very poor record for reliability. Only get one if you are on a contract and so can return them when they break down.

My advice Snaggy is to throw it away, and get a Sony Ericsson or a Nokia. You can get a second hand Sony Ericsson K750i for very little cash, and it's a fairly robust little 'phone which has good software, bluetooth and works fine with iSync, and a good camera too if those fripperies matter to you. It does look boring though. When you buy a 'phone it is always worth getting it not only unlocked so it works on all networks, but debranded as well so you remove all the alterations and restrictions to the software made by the networks too.
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on June 14, 2007, 04:11:
 
Callipygous wrote:
proof that you can gild a turd, and not only that, but you can sell them afterwards in large numbers.

Especially in Japan
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on June 14, 2007, 04:30:
 
Oooh ! What a give-away ! [Wink]


Maybe I'm not a proper geek, but I'd pay good money for a phone that's just a phone.

No crappy unusable web-browser.
No crappy unusable diary.
No crappy blurry lo-res camera.
No crappy unusable mp3 player.
No half-arsed attempt at playing videos.
No silly beepy-games.
No currency conversions, horoscope, or biorhythms.

Just.
A.
Phone.
 
Posted by -ct- (Member # 209) on June 14, 2007, 04:51:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Oooh ! What a give-away ! [Wink]


Maybe I'm not a proper geek, but I'd pay good money for a phone that's just a phone.

No crappy unusable web-browser.
No crappy unusable diary.
No crappy blurry lo-res camera.
No crappy unusable mp3 player.
No half-arsed attempt at playing videos.
No silly beepy-games.
No currency conversions, horoscope, or biorhythms.

Just.
A.
Phone.

and it has to flip open
AND it has to give the star trek "beedeepebbeep" noise when you do
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on June 14, 2007, 07:46:
 
So TFD...you mean to say you like my kickass phone, then?
http://images.google.com/images?q=lg%20vx3100

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Sxeptomaniac (Member # 3698) on June 14, 2007, 10:21:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Callipygous:
Motorola 'phones are living proof that you can gild a turd, and not only that, but you can sell them afterwards in large numbers. Their software is possibly the worst in the industry, and they are have a very poor record for reliability. Only get one if you are on a contract and so can return them when they break down.

My advice Snaggy is to throw it away, and get a Sony Ericsson or a Nokia.

Seconded on the Motorolas. We used to have Motorolas here at work, and those are the first cellphones I used with any regularity. They were durable enough, but the menus were completely counterintuitive.

I would add LG to your list of good phone manufacturers. The first time I used one I was amazed at how easy it was, and the two I've owned have been fairly durable.
 
Posted by WinterSolstice (Member # 934) on June 14, 2007, 10:53:
 
My 3 favorite phones ever have been Ericssons. I haven't liked any since the Sony/Ericsson stuff, though.

I have a Motorola SLVR now that has been a wonderful phone - the only issue is that a telco-pushed flash update (as in, I woke up one morning and my phone said "Please restart the phone to complete the flash upgrade" or some such) broke the support for ordinary chargers.

Now the damn thing requires Motorola brand chargers - it actually complains about the HP and RIM Blackberry chargers.

Oh, actually, and Motorola has the stupidest address book in history. One entry per person? Who only has one entry?
 
Posted by mistersaxon (Member # 6816) on June 14, 2007, 14:31:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:

I would add LG to your list of good phone manufacturers. The first time I used one I was amazed at how easy it was, and the two I've owned have been fairly durable.

YMMV but I have to say the "chocolate phone" by LG is actually crap. It would be more use if it really were chocolate because then you could eat it. It has many faults including poor reception, a complete inability to just shut the fsck up when you are in a meeting, the touch interface is fluffy and imprecise and battery life is poor. LG generally know their way around a circuit board so this may be a triumph of form over function for them, but approach with caution.

Like others here I'd say Nokia if you just want a phone that works, or I might add Sony Ericsson if you want a shiny toy you can talk into. If you want a PDA (and don't mind Windows Mobile) then HTC seem to have a knack for good design in a mash-up convergence kind of way.
 
Posted by Sxeptomaniac (Member # 3698) on June 14, 2007, 14:51:
 
quote:
Originally posted by mistersaxon:
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:

I would add LG to your list of good phone manufacturers. The first time I used one I was amazed at how easy it was, and the two I've owned have been fairly durable.

YMMV but I have to say the "chocolate phone" by LG is actually crap. It would be more use if it really were chocolate because then you could eat it. It has many faults including poor reception, a complete inability to just shut the fsck up when you are in a meeting, the touch interface is fluffy and imprecise and battery life is poor. LG generally know their way around a circuit board so this may be a triumph of form over function for them, but approach with caution.
I agree with that. I took one look at the Chocolate and knew it was lousy design. The company usually makes good phones, though.
 
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on June 14, 2007, 15:16:
 
I have a Siemens A65 (IIRC)

I got it from Virgin here in the UK (on a pay as you go deal)

It is not a bad phone - and a phone is all it is (i think it might have some crap WAP functions, but I have never even looked at them)

It doesn't play music or games, it has no camera or built in FM radio.

The interface is not bad - though nothing has ever lived up to my first Alcatel like this (ok mine was a subtle silver not leery orange...) That phone was so good I had one, my wife had one and everyone I showed it to wanted one... (yes it looks crap and clunky now, but at the time it was near cutting edge and the interface was just so "obvious" - something phones seem to have lost somewhere...)
 
Posted by iWanToUseaMac (Member # 4993) on June 14, 2007, 16:53:
 
Mine is Kyocera Phantom, quite simple, quite fun!
Contact managing is pretty good, you can use icons to differentiate between home, office and mobile phone numbers, set private numbers and also use avatars. Tools are OK, calculator, calendar, timer... the only bad one is the tip calculator, I can't use quantities higher than 4 digits [ohwell]
Games are great: Tetris and Brick Attack.
Best Feat: Doodler, a drawing program, is so fun to use with its 4 greyscale palette.
Voice calling is another nice feat but it sometimes fail, not enough memory for it.
Major Drawback: It suffers from "BSoD", mostly when charging.

There are other features I haven't tried, like the browser and PC connectivity, but I don't need it ATM, leave it to Smartphones.

But anyway, I don't regret preferring it over the Nokia 2200 [Smile]
 
Posted by Stibbons (Member # 2515) on June 15, 2007, 01:01:
 
I'm not sure why Moto are getting such a kicking - my V235 works fine despite the bashing I give it - though I do now use my Xda about town or when I'm not somewhere it will be damaged/nicked.

Sony Ericsson is odd - I used to have a K700i which had some damn smart features, but the thing started going wrong so quickly that I was glad when I fell down a cliff on it! [ohwell]
 
Posted by Steen (Member # 170) on June 15, 2007, 04:15:
 
The one my company provides is an LG VX4650. It's an ugly little phone with almost no extra features, but quite durable. Our sales people and myself beat the snot out of the poor things and they keep working. The battery life is good, too.
 
Posted by Tominfla (Member # 6767) on June 16, 2007, 01:16:
 
I agree with the Motorola rep. They are awful. The Razr series is probably one of the worst phones out there. And Verizon cripples the software so much you can hardly do anything with it. The phone I have is an E815, not a cheap phone but it works with iSync and is pretty good by Motorola standards. I don't care for the interface, and I am lucky enough to be able to take pictures with it and still send them to my email without being charged for it.

What is it with charging for everything anyway? It's like, you pay enough for the service and the phone, now you have to be nickle and dimed to death.

Makes me want to go back to land line. The only inconvenience would be that I would not have a phone in the car in case of emergency.
 
Posted by Bibo (Member # 1959) on June 16, 2007, 08:30:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tominfla:
....Makes me want to go back to land line. The only inconvenience would be that I would not have a phone in the car in case of emergency.

Get a pre-paid one from Virgin Mobile (they use the Sprint Network), the phones are about $30 and you can pay as little as $20 every 90 days and the unused minutes roll over. It's a very economical choice for an emergency phone. I used one for 2 years.
 
Posted by Maggs (Member # 4682) on June 17, 2007, 18:21:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
Oooh ! What a give-away ! [Wink]


Maybe I'm not a proper geek, but I'd pay good money for a phone that's just a phone.

No crappy unusable web-browser.
No crappy unusable diary.
No crappy blurry lo-res camera.
No crappy unusable mp3 player.
No half-arsed attempt at playing videos.
No silly beepy-games.
No currency conversions, horoscope, or biorhythms.

Just.
A.
Phone.

I'm with you on that, less is more, in my game. Less crap to break, more chance of it lasting longer.
 
Posted by zesovietrussian (Member # 1177) on June 17, 2007, 19:27:
 
As an added bonus, most prepaid GSM phones can be unlocked and used on any network - why pay your cell provider $150 out-of-contract price for a low-end Nokia when you can get one for $19? Not too sure about CDMA phones though; I don't know about other providers, but I know for a fact that Sprint only activates Sprint-specific phones - if it doesn't have a Sprint logo on it, they won't activate it. Greedy bastids...
 
Posted by Snaggy (Member # 123) on June 19, 2007, 15:04:
 
So I ended up getting an LG, it was the cheapest thing around that would still work in my area.

OH, and last week I decided to take a dip in the ocean. With Nitrozac's cell phone in my pocket. Doh!

So I bought two.
[cry baby]
 
Posted by zesovietrussian (Member # 1177) on June 19, 2007, 15:46:
 
Poor phones, they don't know they only have ten more days to live [evil]
 


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