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Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on November 15, 2005, 21:13:
 
How do you pluralize Bloody Mary? Do you ever have less than two panini?

...Just a few questions inspired by ads at work. I'll add more questions as I think of them, but right now I really need to know the answer to the Bloody Mary question.
 
Posted by Cap'n Vic (Member # 1477) on November 15, 2005, 21:17:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
How do you pluralize Bloody Mary?

"Make it a double, barkeep"

*rimshot

/here all week, try the veal and tip your waitresses
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on November 15, 2005, 21:40:
 
Bloody Mary is a proper name, so I'd just add an "s".
 
Posted by quantumfluff (Member # 450) on November 15, 2005, 21:41:
 
Bloody Marys.

What's the singular of data?
 
Posted by TMBWITW,PB (Member # 1734) on November 15, 2005, 22:08:
 
datum
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on November 16, 2005, 01:28:
 
Why is is so hard to convince my boss that if you have fewer than two criteria, but more than none, it's a criterion?
 
Posted by Tom- geeking around (Member # 2876) on November 16, 2005, 01:42:
 
Oh man, you guys in here really have the goodest grammar I have seen on the internet..

Thomas
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on November 16, 2005, 01:51:
 
quote:
you guys in here really have the goodest grammar I have seen on the internet..
Shouldn't that be the bestest? [Razz]
 
Posted by maximile (Member # 3446) on November 16, 2005, 02:10:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:
Why is is so hard to convince my boss that if you have fewer than two criteria, but more than none, it's a criterion?

Heh... that's one of my favourite things too...

There's a section in Schott's Original Miscellany about pluralising some compound terms... I can't remember many, but I know it's 'Doctors Who' rather than 'Doctor Whos'. And, of course, 'passers by' rather than 'passer byes'.
 
Posted by RScottV (Member # 3540) on November 16, 2005, 06:41:
 
quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
I know it's 'Doctors Who' rather than 'Doctor Whos'. And, of course, 'passers by' rather than 'passer byes'.

This is true except when it is "Dr. Whos."

 -
 
Posted by Ugh, MightyClub (Member # 3112) on November 16, 2005, 07:01:
 
Is pluralization different in Americanese than it is in English though? Either way, "two Bloodies Mary" just doesn't sound right to me.

Anyway, sometimes it's better to reconstruct the whole sentence than to use obscure rules to get something like "Are both Doctors Who's TARDISes blue?" It's longer but more clear to ask, "Did both the first and fifth Doctor Who have a blue TARDIS?" At least I think so. So there. [Wink]
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on November 16, 2005, 07:35:
 
quote:
Is pluralization different in Americanese than it is in English though? Either way, "two Bloodies Mary" just doesn't sound right to me.
Yes, we spell it the proper way - "pluralisation" [Big Grin]

But seriously, the thing about pluralising compound terms is to decide whether the compound can be split into a noun and an adjective, and if so, then pluralise only the noun. For example, if a soldier had to appear before a Court martial on several different occasions, he would have been present at several Court-s martial. (hyphen for illustrative purposes only [Wink] )

With the Bloody Mary example , if you refer to the historical figure, then Bloody is the adjective and Mary is the noun, therefore, had there been more than one of her, we would say "Bloody Marys". With the Drink, both words together form the noun, so "Bloody Marys" still applies.

Doctor Who complicates matters slightly, but only becasue he is fictional. If we treat him as though he was real, his various incarnations should be described as the Doctors Who. However, if we were refering to collectible figurines, then you could ask how many Doctor Whos a person had acquired.

Clear as mud. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on November 16, 2005, 07:53:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:


Doctor Who complicates matters slightly, but only becasue he is fictional. If we treat him as though he was real, his various incarnations should be described as the Doctors Who. However, if we were refering to collectible figurines, then you could ask how many Doctor Whos a person had acquired.

Clear as mud. [Big Grin]

Thanks heavens we're not dealing with several physicians and their (English) kit. You know,
"Doctors whose..." Or worse, physicians that had acquired a collection of Doctor Whos, as in,

"Doctors whose Doctor Whos..." [Big Grin]

Okay. I think I'm done now. TGIF
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on November 16, 2005, 09:21:
 
Garlicguy - are you thinking of four medical brothers, family name 'Who', all trying do decide ownership of their childhood collection of action figures? If so, the issue is:

Amongst the Doctors Who, whose Doctor Whos belong to whom, and should the Doctors Whos belong to whichever of the Doctors Who claims them first?
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on November 16, 2005, 09:24:
 
Danged if I know?? [Confused]
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on November 16, 2005, 09:27:
 
I think it should be Bloody Mary's. [Wink]

Please don't kill me, I'm only kidding. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on November 16, 2005, 09:52:
 
quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
I think it should be Bloody Mary's. [Wink]

Please don't kill me, I'm only kidding. [Big Grin]

Maybe we should work at pluralising dragon(s) and man (men) and their friends and toys?
 
Posted by Ugh, MightyClub (Member # 3112) on November 16, 2005, 12:35:
 
I think we should just give up an all have some Bloody Marys [crazy]
 
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on November 16, 2005, 12:38:
 
Not to mention parliaments of owls, knots of toads, murders of rooks, gaggles of geese, etc.

[evil]
 
Posted by maximile (Member # 3446) on November 16, 2005, 12:45:
 
So what's the collective noun for geek? Any ideas or suggestions?
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on November 16, 2005, 12:50:
 
Quick grammar question:
"followup," "follow-up," or "follow up?"

From an e-mail in my draft folder:
"I'm CCing you on this as a follow-up about foobarbaz."

dict seems to put the most weight behind "follow-up," but does seems to offer 'followup' as an option.

Google Fight also backs 'follow-up'
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=follow-up&word2=%22follow+up%22
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=follow-up&word2=%22followup%22
 
Posted by The Famous Druid (Member # 1769) on November 16, 2005, 12:51:
 
quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
So what's the collective noun for geek? Any ideas or suggestions?

A gaggle of geeks?

Or a directory of technophiles?
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on November 16, 2005, 13:04:
 
hi dragonman97

'Follow-up' is the noun, as per your example:" I'm CCing you on this as a follow-up about foobarbaz."

However, 'follow up' is the phrasal verb, as in 'please follow up any initial suggestions with a more detailed proposal later'.

'Followup', as far as I am aware, isn't a word, but I am open to correction....

Hope this helps. [Smile]

maximile - how about a "spectacle" of geeks? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Stormtalon (Member # 1163) on November 16, 2005, 13:07:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
So what's the collective noun for geek? Any ideas or suggestions?

A gaggle of geeks?

Or a directory of technophiles?

Pshaw. It's obviously a .tar of geeks.

[Big Grin]

Stormtalon
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on November 16, 2005, 15:08:
 
Grummash: Thanks!

Stormalon: Shouldn't that be a 'tarball of geeks?' =P
 
Posted by Serenak (Member # 2950) on November 16, 2005, 15:51:
 
How about a grid of geeks?

Or maybe a cluster of geeks?

I would offer an array of geeks; but that has obvious grounds for grammatical confusion so has to be ruled out on grounds of common sense. Network of geeks falls at the same fence too in my eyes.

I suppose an argument of geeks could viably be put forward but for reasons of public relations I think that might be best avoided. (actually I thought it was already an argument of politicians but cannot find any verification that this is actually a real collective noun...
 
Posted by Sxeptomaniac (Member # 3698) on November 16, 2005, 17:05:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
So what's the collective noun for geek? Any ideas or suggestions?

A gaggle of geeks?

How about altering that slightly to a google of geeks? [crazy]
 
Posted by Ugh, MightyClub (Member # 3112) on November 16, 2005, 20:02:
 
Another important question is where you keep the cluster of geeks. My guess is in a geek farm.
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on November 16, 2005, 20:27:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
Do you ever have less than two panini?

Late response...sure - I'm usually not that hungry when I go to Cafe Europa in the city...but I don't know what it's actually called. =P
 
Posted by Rhonwyyn (Member # 2854) on November 16, 2005, 21:58:
 
Hehe. Clever, dman. [Wink]

But a bit of a "duh" moment for me: 'tis "fewer than two," not "less than two." [blush]

Darn those express lanes! [Razz]
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on November 16, 2005, 22:12:
 
My boss has actually complained at stores that have such signs up...and they've changed them!
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on November 17, 2005, 07:15:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
How about altering that slightly to a google of geeks? [crazy]

I second that idea, it really fits.
 
Posted by Grummash (Member # 4289) on November 17, 2005, 07:34:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
How about altering that slightly to a google of geeks?

A google of geeks might be ok, but a googol of geeks might be a bit much [Razz]
 
Posted by garlicguy (Member # 3166) on November 17, 2005, 07:47:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Grummash:
quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
How about altering that slightly to a google of geeks?

A google of geeks might be ok, but a googol of geeks might be a bit much [Razz]
It is a bit perplexing.
 
Posted by Maggs (Member # 4682) on December 15, 2005, 09:27:
 
quote:
Originally posted by The Famous Druid:
quote:
Originally posted by maximile:
So what's the collective noun for geek? Any ideas or suggestions?

A gaggle of geeks?

Or a directory of technophiles?

You mean a gaggle of geese [Wink]
 
Posted by dragonman97 (Member # 780) on December 15, 2005, 10:37:
 
Okay, Maggs...I've seen this a number of times and held my tongue, but you've been posting enough that I should finally say it.

Please, please stop necroposting. If a thread hasn't been touched for awhile, and isn't active, "me too" replies are usually not that welcome.
 


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