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They should just stash her body away in a back room for 3 days and she'll be fine.

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Anyone else find it sort of odd her death gets 2 sentences in the whole article?

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quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus:
Anyone else find it sort of odd her death gets 2 sentences in the whole article?

How long does it take to say someone died?

The thing I found disturbing was this quote
from an audience member

"I mean, there were times when you felt like it was too much. But I dare anybody not to believe after watching it."

Listen very carefully people, It's a fscking movie. If you can become a 'believer' based on a movie, then I'm off to join the Jedi.

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I refuse to see it. I still have nightmares, some 25+ years later, from doing the Stations of the Cross. Former or current Catholic Schoolers will know what I mean.**shudder**

EDIT: Good point, TFD

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Have no fear!

She's really just been unconcious. In three days, she'll come back, say some stuff, and live in India.

Too bad the Budda's life was'nt bloody enough to be mass-commercialized. [shake head]

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Buddha
Muhammad
Moses

That leaves Hinduism as a major world religion unrepresented in film. Of course, there may be one that I just didn't find.

I don't think the reason The Passion was so commercialized was because of the blood. I think it was because of Mel Gibson directing.

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Keeanau Reeves?!

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Keeanau Reeves as Siddhartha?

Keeanau Reeves as the infinite, perfect, the celestial?

I hate the taste of bile.

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quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
Buddha
Muhammad
Moses

That leaves Hinduism as a major world religion unrepresented in film. Of course, there may be one that I just didn't find.

I don't think the reason The Passion was so commercialized was because of the blood. I think it was because of Mel Gibson directing.

/me finds it hard to believe there's a single aspect of Hindu faith that hasn't been turned into a Bollywood musical.

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Oh goody, another potential religious flamewar [Wink]

Did anyone else think "WTF" to what that Mormon dude said? Can't watch a movie without the Bishop's approval? God wouldn't want him to be watching an R rated movie about His Son (but apparently inspiring an R rated book was just fine). Talk about legalistic [shake head]

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Listen very carefully people, It's a fscking movie. If you can become a 'believer' based on a movie, then I'm off to join the Jedi.
Good point, TFD, but the Star Wars movies don't claim to be anything other than fiction. I'd agree that making a decision to become a Christian purely based on the movie would be a pretty strange move. But if it causes one to be interested enough to check it out in more detail, then I don't see a problem with that.

Edit: I haven't seen it yet, but even the movies I have seen depicting the crucifixion have been pretty disturbing (wonder if they got it right in this one , and put the nails through the wrists. Nails through the hands wouldn't be enough to support the crucifixee's body weight.). I have to wonder whether Mel's deliberately upped the violence for shock value.

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quote:
Originally posted by csk:
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Listen very carefully people, It's a fscking movie. If you can become a 'believer' based on a movie, then I'm off to join the Jedi.
Good point, TFD, but the Star Wars movies don't claim to be anything other than fiction.
And 'Passion' is 5% Bible, 20% Gibson, and 75% the dreams of some 18th Century nun.

The sad thing is, Hollywood twists 'true' stories in all sorts of ways to make a better movie, then stupid people see the movie, and think what they see on screen is 'Truth'.

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quote:
Originally posted by csk:
I haven't seen it yet, but even the movies I have seen depicting the crucifixion have been pretty disturbing (wonder if they got it right in this one , and put the nails through the wrists. Nails through the hands wouldn't be enough to support the crucifixee's body weight.). I have to wonder whether Mel's deliberately upped the violence for shock value.

Saw it yesterday. They put the nails through the hands, not the wrists, but there was something under the feet providing support. (Which I thought was a really odd move since isn't the point for them to suffocate?)

I thought the film was very good, and very intense. There was only one thing I would have changed from an artistic point of view. I'll let you guess until after you've seen it yourself.

As far as Mel upping the violence, I'm not sure how violent they actually were. Remember that Rome is known for bloodlust (and the wine, the aquaduct, the roads, sanitation, education, order, and public 'ealth [Wink] ) so they probably were pretty close to the movie's depiction. The part that really disturbed me was the flogging. Getting skin ripped off is no fun, I'm sure. [weep]

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quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
quote:
Originally posted by csk:
I haven't seen it yet, but even the movies I have seen depicting the crucifixion have been pretty disturbing (wonder if they got it right in this one , and put the nails through the wrists. Nails through the hands wouldn't be enough to support the crucifixee's body weight.). I have to wonder whether Mel's deliberately upped the violence for shock value.

Saw it yesterday. They put the nails through the hands, not the wrists, but there was something under the feet providing support. (Which I thought was a really odd move since isn't the point for them to suffocate?)
Yep, that's right, AFAIK. The crucifixee has to push up to breathe, but due to the nails in feet thing, that becomes very painful after a while. It also explains why the Romans would break the legs of anyone that was taking a bit too long to die, since they then wouldn't be able to push up to breathe. I find it strange that Mel was a stickler for historical accuracy in some areas (wanting the whole thing in Aramaic with no subtitles), but he seems to have missed the boat on this one. Hmmm...

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Getting skin ripped off is no fun
It's really not.

The blow comes, you don't even feel.
flesh below, how it looks like snow,
And then blood flows like water on the keel.

Whoa. [Eek!] spontanious poetry.

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quote:
Originally posted by TMBWITW,PB:
I don't think the reason The Passion was so commercialized was because of the blood. I think it was because of Mel Gibson directing.

The hype machine was helped by his anti-semitic-holocaust-denying jackass of a father. Any publicity is good publicity. I like what Fark has come to call the movie: The Jesus Chainsaw Massacre. [Big Grin]
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Hehe GMx..

How about "Oh my God, they killed Jesus! The bastards!"

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quote:
Originally posted by csk:
Hehe GMx..

How about "Oh my God, they killed Jesus! The bastards!"

Now you've gone and spoiled the movie for me !

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by csk:
Hehe GMx..

How about "Oh my God, they killed Jesus! The bastards!"

Now you've gone and spoiled the movie for me !
I dunno, I heard that there's some sort of plot twist at the end.

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quote:
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Hehe GMx..

How about "Oh my God, they killed Jesus! The bastards!"

Now you've gone and spoiled the movie for me !
I dunno, I heard that there's some sort of plot twist at the end.
Probably some typical Hollywood ending where everyone gets to live eternally ever after....


btw - have you heard if they're planning a sequel?

I can see it now ...
"Passion II - this time he's really cross!"

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Yeah, doesn't he get sent back, kinda like Gandalf in TTT?

Damn Gibson for ripping off Tolkien! [Razz]

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Heh [Big Grin]

And for today's verging on blasphemous joke...

Why was Jesus so popular with women?

Because he was hung like (extend both arms horizontally) this!

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No, I don't think there's any surprise ending - I'm pretty sure it's just...
/me makes gesture of thumb going across throat...*choking noise*...etc.
I read an article in the local paper today about it, and it said that it was about "the last 12 hours of Christ's life." Well, unless I'm really bad at math, 12 is not equal to 84 (12 last hrs, + 72 "I'm not dead yet, really, I'm feeling better" hours).

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Dman, this double post can keep you company in hell.

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Such a devout dragon. Keep it up and you'll be spending eternity in Dis with TFD's perpuntual motion machine. [Smile]

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