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Mr. Geek 2U
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Icon 1 posted March 20, 2014 01:59      Profile for Mr. Geek 2U     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hello! Hello! Hello!

It has been many moons since my last confession, so please forgive me.

I will confess that for the first time everrrrrr I bought a Generation 1 Mac of any Mac product. Heck, I won't install a new OS until it gets to 10.X.2. I think until x.x.2 I am just tech service fodder. This was a big steparooni.

It is also the first time everrrr I bought a brand new desktop. And what is so cool is it looks maaaahhh-velous on the desktop. Mac cube, I hardly knew thee -- well never knew that Edsel Ford!

This is a pretty base kind'a model, with the 3.7 quad core processor and the dual 300 GPUs. This is for photography and not 4K video. Plus I read that the processors are upgradable. I did, however upgrade the hard drive because I neverrrrr heard anybody say, "Boy, I wish I bought a smaller soldered-on hard drive for my Mac."

So here is what I think after 1 month and 1 week of dealing with this beast.

First thing off if you get one. And you absolutely, positively have to do this when you do get one or those NSA spooks that piss off Google will come to your house in a pre-dawn raid and take your geek card. It has happened already. Really!

So here is what you do: Before you ever leave your lilly pad, clean up a bit. At least clear last-week's pizza boxes and Chinese food cartons off the coffee table. You need to set some mood here. Get the candles out, set the dimmer. Maybe set the iPod, CD player (or if you are too hipster/geeky for your beanie, the turntable) to Barry White, or Marvin Gaye, I kinda like New Age for this. or if you march to the beat of a different sound track, ABBA.

Some words to the wise here, before playing Barry White DO NOT watch the South Park episode where they kill off Chef, I will say it kills the mood. As for watching "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" before playing ABBA, what you do with your Mac Pro in the privacy of your own pad is up to you.

So you got the place set up. Either Apple has emailed you that today is the day! Ta-Da! Or you picked one up at the Genius Bar and brought her home (you sly dog you).

Now, unbox the Mac Pro. Leave the box and wrappings in another room. You want this to be a pure experience. Kinda like when you imagine you met The Woz a month before Steve Jobs did and it was you who changed the world.

Now take your new Mac Pro, set it on the coffee table then sit down on the couch and just stare at it for a minute. No more than a minute or you'll start thinking, "Oh great, all I need is a monkey throwing a bone into the air." No, there is something better.

You reach behind her back, you find the clasp of paradise and give it that magic flick of your fingers and viola! I will swear in my entire life I've never seen any more than a half dozen, maybe a dozen women undressed who look as good as this computer with its clothes off (and all of them were Mrs. Geek 2 Me!). In fact, it's even more beautiful than when my next-door neighbor came home with a 1964 Pontiac GTO "Bobacat", drool.

Really, beauty is much more than skin deep. This may be one of the few objects d'art you can stare at for two hours straight while not living in Colorado or a medical marijuana state. MacManKrisK, excepted.

Now for a bit of performance. There is (or hopefully was with 10.9.1) an instructional error in the migration assistant. I can accept, as I often do, that I am a complete idiot and should have known what to do, but even the Apple tech guy kinda went "Holy Crap!" when I told him the instruction was missing. He may have been humoring the village idiot, though. Mrs. Geek 2 Me does that a lot.

Short of instructions I must have hit the wrong key. You know when you hit the wrong couple of keys and all the sudden Terminal shows up and indicates you've just launched a full-scale nuclear attack on the Crimea? Fortunately, this was a couple of Saturdays ago, the missiles were diverted and fell harmlessly into the Malacca Straight. Close call, huh?


Whatever happened, I could not transfer the contents of my Time Machine drive to my new computer. Mind you I'm upgrading from from a 2007 MBP, so it's been a while. And up until that night Time Machine was nothing more than a blinking green light on a spare hard drive.

I had to use Carbon Copy Cloner.

If you ever create shareware and charge for it, do not use cartoon images of pigs, bacon and frying pans. The pun gets old about 5 seconds before you see it.

The nasty thing is I may have created a "ghost partition" but more about that later.

I tried the thing out on Aperture and operation was seamless. I could have a dozen adjustment bricks open and the adjustments occurred instantly as I moved sliders. It would have beach balled the 2.4 ghz MBP and made the 2.66 ghz Mac Mini cry that it was cold, and tired and wanted to go home. And ... crash.

Then I tried FCP Studio 6. I got into some #McConnelling. It was fast, but not as fast as expected. Then again I don't know if FCP Studio 6 is optimized for this kind of system. I don't do much video anymore, not since I was a broadcast producer. But, it worked and it was nice to discover some lost skills. Compressor worked in a matter of minutes.

As for Photoshop. No opinion. Seems OK with huge. 30+ layer photo files (big time macro focus stacking). I hate Adobe, I had to change all my bank accounts. You'd think a company that has been around that long and is clinging to the cloud for life support would be more careful. If you are not a pro, one word: Pixelmator.

As for programs like Word, Pages, Numbers, etc. The computer doesn't really seem faster, although all the other computers I own seem a lot, lot, lot slowerrrrr. Duh!

Well now, if any of you know anything about invisible hard drive partitions, call Apple. Oh, and if Kevin and Nathan at Apple Tech Support are reading this, hey guys, been a lovely couple of days and long into the nights. C'mon over some time, we'll BBQ.

I even called the Scooby Doo crew to see if the smart girl with the glasses would unmask the ghost and discover it was just a mean old man. But she reminded me that at over six decades of age, I was that old man. Durn meddling kids, anyway.

Whatever it is, we could not delete delete the ghost partition, nor could we make it, the only recognizable partition, any larger. On a 500 GB SSD, my partition was only showing 399 GB. You know, when you spend an extra $300 for 250 GB of extra drive, it would be peachy if that extra 100 GB were available.

So you know what time it is, don't you?

It's erase the drive and start all over time! Whooooo-Hooooo! if that works I will let you know. If it does not, you will hear me scream all the way to my near off-grid cabin in the Ozarks because I may have a bum drive.

Well that is the news from Lake Wobegone.

Have a great day!

Mr. Geek 2 U.

My friends call me Skippy

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Mr. Geek 2U, I remember my first iMac, a Bondi Blue V: A/B Same speed as the A but most of the specs of the B. It was fast enough that when we used a LAN to Fly Chuck Yeagers Air Combat, that the slower Macs had better graphics.

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Icon 1 posted March 20, 2014 22:30      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Oh for the good old days when It Just Works™ was a boast, and not an ironic taunt.

As for the SSD not being the full 500 G, that might be a feature, not a bug.

Some SSDs are formatted to ~80% of their full capacity, the other 20% is used for 'load balancing' (SSD wears out eventually, smart controllers will re-map worn out sectors to the 'unused' space, greatly extending the working life of the drive)

If you watch 'The History Of NASA' backwards, it's about a space agency that has no manned spaceflight capability, then does low-orbit flights, then lands on the Moon.

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Icon 1 posted March 21, 2014 00:50      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Mr. Geek 2U: Wow...what a tale! Well done, sir!

For the copying thing - I use SuperDuper (vs. CCC). It seems to me like you may have captured the 'outer partition' vs. the 'inner partition' - and it's attempted to copy the drive verbatim like it was from one like disk to another. I'm not really sure what the solution is - I'd try comparing the partition tables in Disk Utility to see if they match perfectly (they shouldn't if it was done right).

I have a different disk copying question that perhaps the fine folks here know the answer to - how does disk copying work/not work if you use FileVault2? I'll be perfectly honest - I haven't searched for the answer yet...it's on my todo list. My next laptop is likely to be a MacBook Air, and with SSD, I don't want to ever have non-encrypted data on it. (It's nearly impossible to properly erase SSD.) However, it occurs to me that my backup strategy of using SuperDuper may positively go to hell if I do that. Maybe something could be made to work with Time Machine, but that would require me to use Time Machine. (I like my wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey stuff to be accompanied by a sonic screwdriver, not my files & operating system. For my data, predictability is key.)

I don't really know what I'd do with a Mac Pro's horsepower, mind you - maybe stuff with VMs, but I usually have other resources to muck about with for that (and I'm dabbling with AWS' Free Tier right now). Still, if you've got it, flaunt it. [Wink]

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Mr. Druid,

I was sure afraid that was the case for a while. Why else would they call them SSDs? It's like WMDs and SDIs and other very bad stuff.

Then I thought of my new good friends Kevin and Nathan at Apple Tech Support, and I would not think they would make me erase and install just to tell me, "Oh, we forgot, that's just the ways those drives are. Sorrr-eeee!"

I say Kevin and Nathan and I got to be good friends after two days on the phone and they would not do that to me. Mrs. Geek 2 Me says it is Stockholm Syndrome.

Well, I did it. Just a little Command R, erase, double-check the partition and reload. And right now I have my 100 Gs back! For Free! It's like a tax cut, only with Gigabytes. La-de-dah! So there was a ghost partition just like Boot Camp was trying to tell me.

And that is the dark place in this saga. I need to use the Microsoft operating system for a client, and I have not used any of that software since 1984. I hope I have not forgotten those MS-DOS commands! I am not looking forward to that, furrrr-shurrrre!

Thank you for your help and have a great day!

Mr. Geek 2U

My friends call me Skippy

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Mr. Geek 2U
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Icon 1 posted March 21, 2014 01:32      Profile for Mr. Geek 2U     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Originally posted by dragonman97:

I have a different disk copying question that perhaps the fine folks here know the answer to - how does disk copying work/not work if you use FileVault2? I'll be perfectly honest - I haven't searched for the answer yet...it's on my todo list.

Mr. Dragon,

Thank you for the kind words. And yes, something was hiding a partition and that is fixed now.

But I will be darned about that question. Somewhere in my great migration odyssey I remember a check box for file vault. Like, "Check here if you are transferring File Vault Files."

And thank you for the file transfer software tip. If that software does not have pigs and bacon and frying pans then it must be pretty good.

Have a great day!

Mr. Geek 2U

My friends call me Skippy

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