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The Famous Druid

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Icon 1 posted July 28, 2011 18:15      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
...that an angry mob makes a lousy support base.

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Icon 1 posted July 28, 2011 19:45      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Weird to see the GOP so disorganized. Usually that's my side's job...

I predict a new Speaker of the House come next November. Now, some of you might remind me that the public has a short attention span and even shorter memory, and you're right, but whatever the outcome is to this crisis, the games played will only be repeated the next time important legislation needs to be passed. Such as the 2012 Federal Budget (anyone want to open up a pool on whether or not that will get passed before April 2012?)...

Sigh. The most frustrating part is this whole "crisis" is completely self-inflicted. It didn't have to happen. At all. Those turkeys on the Hill had warning and they had time. They did nothing but waste it. In fact, it wasn't until Wall Street really started sounding off that elements of the GOP were even willing to admit that defaulting would be a bad thing (no wonder we had a financial crisis - the entire Baby Boomer generation seems to think they're too cool to pay bills :roll:).

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CommanderShroom
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Icon 1 posted July 29, 2011 15:41      Profile for CommanderShroom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Such as the 2012 Federal Budget (anyone want to open up a pool on whether or not that will get passed before April 2012?)...

I would, but I really don't like the odds.

I am not really surprised to see this happening to the Republicans. The Tea Party's base ideals do not match with the rank and file. It really was only a matter of time before things got ugly. Too bad it has to get ugly over staying solvent.

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quote:
Originally posted by CommanderShroom:
I am not really surprised to see this happening to the Republicans. The Tea Party's base ideals do not match with the rank and file. It really was only a matter of time before things got ugly. Too bad it has to get ugly over staying solvent. [/QB]

True, the Tea Party is closer to Randroid libertarianism for the most part. They are also extremely inflexible. It's gotten closer to a religious fight than political; the Tea Party has their strict dogma, which they believe all Republicans must follow, or they will be labeled as being not true followers (AKA RINO). Heck, some Tea Party types have been claiming that some Republican candidates have been liberals attempting to deceive Tea Partiers, because they don't follow the "correct" faith. Sounds like an accusation of heresy to me.

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Xanthine

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Icon 1 posted July 29, 2011 18:28      Profile for Xanthine     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by CommanderShroom:
Too bad it has to get ugly over staying solvent.

Seriously. Since when was it conservative to NOT pay your bills?

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The Famous Druid

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
Since when was it conservative to NOT pay your bills?

Xanthine, you're not old enough to remember a conservative administration that practiced what was even half-way financially responsible.

The last Republican president to actually pay off debt was Eisenhower.

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quote:
Originally posted by Xanthine:
quote:
Originally posted by CommanderShroom:
Too bad it has to get ugly over staying solvent.

Seriously. Since when was it conservative to NOT pay your bills?
But don't you see? They desperately want to pay their bills, it's only those pesky Democrats that keep saying NO to their wish to have endless tax cuts and no revenue increases to cover their tab. [Wink]

This is superbly fscked up, and they should be ashamed of themselves. [Frown]
I mean, seriously, running the country into the ground, just to prove that they're 'better' than the President, is really disgusting. I hope they're trounced in 2012.

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My only hope now is that Obama will have the balls to invoke the 14th amendment and raise the damn thing himself. He hasn't made any moves to do so, but maybe he's letting Congress prove how thoroughly reckless and inept it is first.

My daddy taught me to pay my bills and live within my means. The nation, as a whole, has been breaking that second rule since Reagan took office. It would be nice, though, if we could continue following the first.

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Another political hypocrisy is when people demand government stay out of their business but at the same time regulate sexuality and make getting birth control difficult. Some Politicians have been saying that free birth control would send the wrong message to women. If these politicians followed their rhetoric, they would grant that women have control over their sexual choices, and that the government should not be in the business of passing judgement on those choices.
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