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FatGnome
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Icon 1 posted May 28, 2003 11:39      Profile for FatGnome     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stepn virus, anyone know anything about it? It just caused all of the XP machines where I work to start rebooting in an infinate loop. Kinda odd that it only hits the XP machines. Now I know yall are goin to say down with XP but seriously anyone know anything about it? I can't find anything on google, Mckafee or Norton. nor any of many other search engines.

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Icon 1 posted May 28, 2003 19:17      Profile for Tut-an-Geek   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So why do you think it exists?
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Icon 1 posted May 28, 2003 20:11      Profile for GMx     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I heard something about losing internet access when loading the newest Windoze patch.Haven't heard about the virus, but then I don't keep up on them. I've never had one.
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Icon 1 posted May 29, 2003 00:25      Profile for MistecMcetsiM     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My friend and both had a problem where our drive letters became switched. The computer was looking for windows on drive C, but since the letter names were switched, it was looking for an operating system on a cd-rom drive. It's a nasty little virus, and it might be what you're talking about, except that my friend has a windows 98 machine. Maybe it has to do with computers connecting through a LAN or through some sort of direct internet connection. The reason I say that is that I believe I contracted my copy of the virus from my friend through AOL. Best of luck fixing the problem in any event.

Symptoms: If you can't load windows (you can't if you have this problem), try getting at least into DOS with a boot disk. If you notice that when you're hunting and pecking through your D drive you find the Windows folder and winddows/system and such, it may be that a virus has switched your drive letters. My friend's roommate came up with the epiphany of simply switching the IDE cables that go the cd-rom and the hard-drive. It worked, and now my friend is back on his cpu.

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neotatsu
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Icon 1 posted May 29, 2003 01:26      Profile for neotatsu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hmm, my problem is it won't even boot system BIOS or anything.. I think it may be hardware issues that I'm having, but basically, I turn it on and it tries loading, accesses the cd drive, and then just stops, leaving me with a blank screen.. I'm gonna try the idea to switch the IDE cables of the hard drive and cd drive to see if it's just that virus mentioned above... It may be, considering the machine is one my parents bought from TINY computers (prebuilt-ickyness), and you can't get the thing to boot into DOS, and you can't really access the actual BIOS, it takes you to a shell program that allows you to manipulate things indirectly.. *sigh* I miss the good 'ol days [ohwell]

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Icon 1 posted May 29, 2003 08:36            Edit/Delete Post 
Let's see - a virus is capable of switching drive letters (which only exist within Windows), but not under Windows as it affects the machine prior to Windows booting?

Sounds like something affected the BIOS there, causing the IDE channels to get reversed. Tho that does sound a bit odd to me - can you reverse IDE channels like that?


As for this shell program - do you mean that the BIOS' interface is a little unusual, or what?

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Icon 1 posted May 29, 2003 17:44      Profile for Tut-an-Geek   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Welllll, neo...
Got a floppy drive?
Does the light stay on?
(If so, then it's quite obvious, your floppy is plugged in upside down, this can happen with IDE too, if your cables aren't polarized)
Try reseating the RAM and video card.
Take out the drives, (unplug their cables from the mobo) try to get to bios at least
Reset the BIOS - 2 ways - 1: unplug power, take out the BIOS/clock battery. 2: Unplug the power, find the jumper for the battery, you should be able to find it near the battery, change the state of the jumper, then change it back

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neotatsu
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Icon 1 posted May 30, 2003 00:06      Profile for neotatsu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by uilleann:
As for this shell program - do you mean that the BIOS' interface is a little unusual, or what?

Damnit all, I knew it was going to happen... forgot to copy the post before I submitted, and it got erased.. Oh well, I'll just say the quote from my friend (with his A+ cert, among several others) "Now that is the wierdest fucking thing I've ever seen.."

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Originally posted by ilovemydualg4:
Welllll, neo...
Got a floppy drive?
Does the light stay on?
(If so, then it's quite obvious, your floppy is plugged in upside down, this can happen with IDE too, if your cables aren't polarized)
Try reseating the RAM and video card.
Take out the drives, (unplug their cables from the mobo) try to get to bios at least
Reset the BIOS - 2 ways - 1: unplug power, take out the BIOS/clock battery. 2: Unplug the power, find the jumper for the battery, you should be able to find it near the battery, change the state of the jumper, then change it back

As for my response to you (which was fairly long, actually), it can be shortened to "Damn, you've got some great skills for a mac man [Razz] ", and then there's the fact that I don't think it's the floppy drive, unless it just suddenly decided to complain (I never use me floppy drive, actually...), heh..

The other suggestion is right spiffy, I never thought to unplug the drives and attempt to access the BIOS, meh..

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll get right on trying them.. sometime... soon... maybe... Meh, I admit it, I'm a master procrastinator, but I'll get to it, you'll see [Wink]

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Icon 1 posted May 30, 2003 00:25            Edit/Delete Post 
the one my PC used to pull was corrosion or dirt build up on the CD-ROM drive connector - the IDE cable is shared by the CD-ROM drive and the hard disc, and this would cause IDE to go offline on some boots, so the machine would fail to find the hard disc at all. Took me a while to figure that one out - just needed the CD-ROM drive unplugging and reconnecting.

The same happened to my 80s micro - dirt build up on connectors on some of the mod circuitry - it would switch on with no BASIC interpreter EPROM to be found and wouldn't do anything (its OS has no UI, so BASIC provides that).

I personally can't imagine you disconnecting and reconnecting the floppy drive cables to work on the drives, but it's conceivable that you had to remove the wires to get to something else, like how you've got to disconnect everything in a StarMax tower to get to the BIOS battery to replace it (and a dead BIOS battery means one totally dead machine).

What have you done to it recently, anything? Or has this fault just appeared from thin air?

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Icon 1 posted May 30, 2003 00:42      Profile for neotatsu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by uilleann:
the one my PC used to pull was corrosion or dirt build up on the CD-ROM drive connector - the IDE cable is shared by the CD-ROM drive and the hard disc, and this would cause IDE to go offline on some boots, so the machine would fail to find the hard disc at all. Took me a while to figure that one out - just needed the CD-ROM drive unplugging and reconnecting.

The same happened to my 80s micro - dirt build up on connectors on some of the mod circuitry - it would switch on with no BASIC interpreter EPROM to be found and wouldn't do anything (its OS has no UI, so BASIC provides that).

I personally can't imagine you disconnecting and reconnecting the floppy drive cables to work on the drives, but it's conceivable that you had to remove the wires to get to something else, like how you've got to disconnect everything in a StarMax tower to get to the BIOS battery to replace it (and a dead BIOS battery means one totally dead machine).

What have you done to it recently, anything? Or has this fault just appeared from thin air?

I've had issues with my harddrive for a while, though I susspect it's the same dust buildup problem you encountered, now that I think about it.. I should check it again, me hard drive and cd drive share the same IDE as well.. I usually would just unhook the hard drive and plug it back in and it'd be fine (it wouldn't recognize the drive as existing, same problem as you described..)

I did have to move around the cables a bit to get to the ram slots to upgrade a little while ago, but it was fine..> Though, come to think of it, this *particular* problem came about when I had to remove the ram I'd installed untill I could get a proper cooling system, heh, and I mean, the very next day.. *sigh* Don't I feel stupid again [Wink] *cough* Well, anywho, once I try things out (I never actually managed to unhook the CD drive the first time around, it requires a complete dismantaling of the case, as does removing the video card, which is why I never tried taking that out and puting it back in, heh, lazy [Razz] ) *sigh* Lots of fun hardware finagling ahead of me, it's going to be a good weekend for the geeking in my room [Cool]

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neotatsu
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Icon 1 posted May 30, 2003 22:57      Profile for neotatsu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok, I figured the problem.. After much hassle (dumbass techs that built it glued all the IDE cables into place, and glued the processor fan on), I finaly got everything out to see if I could at least boot the CMOS, which, I have determined the problem to be a bad video card.. Me buddo is gonna bring over a few parts and we're going to test everything out in a couple days.. Hopefully it's just the video card, not anything else as well (o.o)

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Icon 1 posted May 31, 2003 01:53            Edit/Delete Post 
Ah. Explains the blank screen ;-)
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Icon 1 posted May 31, 2003 03:30      Profile for neotatsu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by uilleann:
Ah. Explains the blank screen ;-)

Aye, heh, but it still could've been many other things..

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Icon 1 posted May 31, 2003 03:36      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post 
Hey every one one of my coworkers just had a simular problem, (blue screen) no boot, he can boot from a DOS disk but he cannot find his C drive his bios sees it as the logical size but he cannot open or list. The repair disks report that the drive data is unrecoverable, could it be that some thing has erased the title tracks?

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Neo: If you just need a cheapo video card, I'd reccommend looking on http://www.pricewatch.com/
From a six dollars shipped RADEON VE to a $38
GeForce4 MX 440 4x 64MB and more, they have a LOT of lowwwww listings

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TheMoMan:
And the file system of drive C is something that DOS can actually read?

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Icon 1 posted May 31, 2003 21:23      Profile for Lex   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
try fdisk?

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neotatsu
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Icon 1 posted May 31, 2003 23:55      Profile for neotatsu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Originally posted by ilovemydualg4:
Neo: If you just need a cheapo video card, I'd reccommend looking on http://www.pricewatch.com/
From a six dollars shipped RADEON VE to a $38
GeForce4 MX 440 4x 64MB and more, they have a LOT of lowwwww listings

Already knew that, G4, but I plan to wait and use one of my friend's cheapo cards to make sure that's the only problem, first [Wink]

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