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MacManKrisK

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My job (I'm a 3rd shift (midnights) stockboy at a regional superstore chain called Meijer) is really starting to affect me, I think.

I was inches from handing in my pricegun and ID badge and walking out the door tonight. It's always "work harder," "you're not moving fast enough," "you need to get more done." I tell them that I'm doing my absolute best, and I am, damnit! and all I get in response is "well, we need you to do better." What the fuck do they expect from me for $6/hr anyway?

I've been having headaches lately, and they're pressure headaches, not sinus related, just general pressure in my head. I think my blood pressure has gone up (which would explain the headaches). I'm starting to exhibit the early signs of depression. I'm sleeping a lot, over 60 hours a week. I skipped my physics class Wednesday night to come home and sleep before work, and I slept for 10 hours Tuesday night, so I shouldn't have been tired. Some nights I simply can't get to sleep. I've been having nightmares about work, I wake up from them and think I'm still at work and feel in a state of panic until I look around and realize I'm in my apartment.

This is starting to affect my school work too. My general pissed off "fuckitall" attitude toward work has started to seep into my classwork too and I've been skipping assignments and classes. And it's not that I don't like my classes, I really actually do, I just don't feel "up" to going. This is really catastrophic, and it makes me scared when I realize how good I've been doing in school and how easially I could fuck it up because of job stress.

I've been edgy and easially excitable lately (just ask Steph), my paranoia has returned, all the exhibitions of my "Type A" tendancies have returned in full force and I don't like them one bit. I'm trapped in this job because I can't quit until I find a new job (I'm really barely making ends meet on $6/hr and have no savings to fall back on) and because I'm working nights and going to school (or sleeping) during the day, I don't have time to look for a better job.

If I only had the special blend of courage and stupidity needed to just up and quit, I think I'd feel better. Just thinking about quitting makes me feel relaxed and more at ease, that is until I remember that I CAN'T and that I'M STUCK doing this.

What can I do?! (Besides pulling a Milton...)

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Icon 1 posted November 03, 2005 06:13      Profile for CommanderShroom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
MMKK,

You really have only two options.

1.) Quit and find another job

or

2.) Suck it up.

Bad solutions in which neither one really is what you want. But sometimes we have to make certain detestable short term decisions to reach long term goals.

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Forget option #2. If a $6/hr job has *that* adverse of an affect on you, it's time to QUIT and walk.
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Forget option #2. If a $6/hr job has *that* adverse of an affect on you, it's time to QUIT and walk.

Agreed. There's got to be better jobs than that around, even if it involves selling your soul and telemarketing, or something [Wink]

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Let's put it this way: what is worse from your point of view? Getting into debth, or risking your school (and probably soon, personnal) life?

I know I would *run* away from such a job. By the way, the absolute best job for a student and geek is working in a bookshop. For the same pay, you'll get to meet lot of different people, and have access to lot of things to read when the business is slow! (Well, that's my opinion, anyway.)

But as much as you don't like that work, be sure to stay civil when you do quit. You never know, you could need a recommendation letter from them at some point.

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Icon 1 posted November 03, 2005 09:33      Profile for Sxeptomaniac   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
If you decide to move on, here's hoping you can find a job soon where they aren't trying to make you work contrary to your natural strengths. [thumbsup]

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Icon 1 posted November 03, 2005 12:48      Profile for Grummash     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
FWIW, I think you should ditch the job as soon as you can and stay in school.

School with eventually lead to the career you want, but your present job will ruin your health and take that career away from you. I wish you well and I hope you can make some changes soon.

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My solution is much more drastic but it involves a rifle and possibly the cops...

I am just kidding. Stick with it until the first opprotunity arises to quit. After that, run out the door and never look back.

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I will be getting a $900 check in the mail sometime around the 15th of this month (for computer tech services). If I havn't found the time to job hunt by then, I may quit Meijer specifically with the intention of using the time freed to find other employment.

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quote:
Originally posted by MacManKrisK:
I will be getting a $900 check in the mail sometime around the 15th of this month (for computer tech services). If I havn't found the time to job hunt by then, I may quit Meijer specifically with the intention of using the time freed to find other employment.

Have you looked into financial aid and loans yet? I know you said you don't want to take out loans, but if you take out a loan ever, for anything, in your whole life, school is probably the most worthwhile. Additionally, flunking out of school isn't going to get you anywhere fast. You might also be eligible for work study on campus. Go talk to the financial aid office. Their job is to help you find a way to pay for school

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quote:
I will be getting a $900 check in the mail sometime around the 15th of this month (for computer tech services). If I havn't found the time to job hunt by then, I may quit Meijer specifically with the intention of using the time freed to find other employment.

MMKK - see, you have an excellent plan already...Good Luck [Smile]

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American Education Services is a good resource to research state and federal aid. My loans were bought by AES from PHEAA (my state agency), and they've been really good about deferment and forbearance. Plus, the interest rate is really low. I'm thinking you can even apply online. Just make sure you file your FAFSA. That's a must when applying for any kind of state or federal aid (and even for some scholarship programs).

Even more info about all of your financial options can be found at FinAid! The SmartStudent® Guide to Financial Aid. Definitely check out this one.

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You are now reading the words of the happiest unemployed man ever!

Yes, I quit this morning. I didn't walk off my shift, I waited until my shift was over, and I was polite, but honest about it. My two main points were: this is affecting my schooling, and I can't continute to be told that my best isn't good enough every night.

*sigh* I feel so much better now without that hanging over my head, like the chinese water torture... drip.... drip.... drip....

I know that things might be rocky for a while in the money department, but I can manage that, I managed before I found a job. I have enough foodstuffs in my apartment to feed on for 3 months or more (thanks to my mom and future-mom-in-law), not a lot of variety, but a lot of sustanance!

It may seem like a very illogical thing to do, and in some ways it was. I really should've waited for that magical check from lands far away before doing this, but I also know myself well and realize that the longer I put it off the longer I would continue to put it off. I'm like Dante from Clerks, I have a tendancy to settle for "good enough" for so long that it becomes the routine that I stick with.

As I mentioned before, my attitude and outlook on life were being poisioned, I was turning negative and sour, and that's just not the person I want to be, and I'll stop at nothing to keep myself from turning into that.

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w00t w00t [Applause] [Applause] [Applause]

Way to go, MMKK [Big Grin] I know that this must have been a hard decision to make, but I doubt you will ever regret it.
It is difficult when money is a struggle, but your family won't let you starve... and now you can concentrate on getting back on top of your school work and also take a little R&R for the sake of your health.
When you are rested and ready to look for a new job, I hope you find one where you will be treated with a bit of respect.
Well Done that man!

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Congrats!

Now, you have one more thing to do to complete the healing process. Take Steph on a nice walk a day you would have been working, at the time you would have left for work, and celebrate your new found freedom. That should get rid of headaches for good.

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Excellent! [Applause]

As someone who stayed too long in a couple of jobs I really hated, I know how good it feels when you finally quit. Enjoy, you've earned it.

Stereo's idea sounds like a good one, celebrate your new-found freedom.

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Thank you guys for the support. It really means a lot to me. [Smile]

Stereo: I think that's a wonderful idea, however, I don't know if walking around the city between the hours of 2300 and 0730 would be particularly advisable, especially since it's starting to turn cold here. Maybe I can just invite Steph to spend the night instead...

I need to go study for my math and psychology exams! Two exams, one Monday.... it's craziness, I tell ya'! [crazy]

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Glad you could be more mature than I have been in the past by waiting til the end of your shift. [Big Grin] Sometimes things like these happen so that better things can come. [Smile]
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I have left more than one job that I realised was destroying me...

Some I left the "correct and polite way" told them what was happening and why, and some I just lost it and basically told em to shove it...

Either way the money worries and so on were nothing compared to the relief of not having to turn up the next day...

In the end it usually works out for the best... because if staying is too soul destroying to bear it will poison your life and relationships too in the longer term.

Take a week or so to enjoy it and then look for another more suitable job.

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quote:
Originally posted by MacManKrisK:

I need to go study for my math and psychology exams! Two exams, one Monday.... it's craziness, I tell ya'! [crazy]

That happened to me once. Except it was Thursday, and the exams were organic chemistry and physics. One happened at 8, the other at 2. Yeah, that was fun...

Just try not to end up taking 3 finals in 36 hours. THat really blows. It happened to me and all my friends our junior year. We weren't necessarily taking the same finals, but our schedules all stacked up the same and at some point in those 36 hours we all sat down and cried together. It was horrible.

Good luck!

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Oy...2 exams in one day - lucky! I think one semester I might have actually had 4! I know I've definitely done 3 in one day, with another one or two in the following days. Life sucks sometimes. [Smile]
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Hello macmankrisk, I'm late as usual, but I just wanted to say that I am glad that this worked out for you. Sometimes it is possible to walk from a job, and sometimes there are other circumstances keeping you locked in. good luck
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Another good resource is Access Group, they are non for profit, and have pretty good payment terms. Always use Federal Loans if at all possible, they have the most flexible rates/conditions.

When you get out of school look into a Federal Consolidation Loan.

4.70% in school
5.30% out of school /repayment

If you drop below half time for your school, you automatically enter repayment if you do not request a forbearance/deferment. Then the loans become immediately due and payable.

I'm going to Grad School for Computer Science in Jan, so I read this over quite a bit. Try to pay the unsubsized interest while in school, since they add it to the balance if you don't.

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Is it really up to 5.30% now? And I thought 2.78% was too high of a rate.
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quote:
Originally posted by dp004i:
Is it really up to 5.30% now? And I thought 2.78% was too high of a rate.

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cheap/20030701a1.asp

4.7% in school, and 6 months after
5.3% in repayment

The Federal Consolidated Loan is the weigthed average of the 2 interest rates, i.e. 4.7 & 5.3

Here's a weighted average formula.
http://www.beyondtechnology.com/tips011.shtml

"If a student consolidates their loans before they enter repayment, the interest rate used is the lower in-school interest rate . Thus, although the rounding up of the weighted average can potentially cost the student as much as 0.13%, a student who consolidates before entering repayment can save as much as 0.6%, a substantial net savings. (The in-school interest rate is 1.7% plus the 91-day treasury bill rate from the last auction in May."

Source: http://www.finaid.org/loans/consolidation.phtml

They use the weighted average of the loans

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