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Cap'n Vic

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Icon 5 posted March 03, 2005 12:48      Profile for Cap'n Vic     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Was do y'all think is going to be the outcome of his trial?

Lynching or OJ-like acquittal?

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It's hard to tell. he's got so many people on the gravy train, his family especially, I think they'll do anything to get him off. So expect lots of dirt about the accusers to be thrown. Personally, I've never thought of him as any kind of genius. His music is bland and trite, the arrangements and playing all done by people with more talent than he could ever have, ie. Quincy Jones.

As for his freakish appearance-anyone can look like they want, but I think it's a shame his apparent mental problems made him turn himself into a freakish monster when he was actually a quite handsome person before the surgery. Of course this was all done with the help of greedy surgeons who would do anything for the money, without thinking of the patient's welfare just so they could add another big celeb to the roster of the patients for their advertisements.

I hope they do find him guilty just so that he doesn't do what he did to anymore children. It may seem premature to say that, but it's happened before and he got out of that one. His arrogance that seems to say that because he's thinks he's some kind of genius (King of Pop? You've got to be shitting me!) he can do what ever he wants.

Of course everyone is presumed innocent, but this case seems to come down whichever team of lawyers plays the game best (but isn't that the judical system anyway?).

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Leaving aside my own opinions of Jacko ....

From what little I've read, the defence team seem to be doing a pretty good hatchet job on the reputation of the prosecution witnesses, which may create 'reasonable doubt' in the minds of the jurors.

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Cap'n Vic

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Icon 1 posted March 03, 2005 13:14      Profile for Cap'n Vic     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
There is something seriously wrong when a 46 year old man sleeps with a 9 year old boy.

Even more wrong is the fact that the parents allowed their kids to go there overnight [shake head]

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Icon 1 posted March 03, 2005 15:01      Profile for garlicguy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
And since our greedia (rhymes with media) driven culture worships not only money but especially those celebrities in music, sports and acting who have done the best job of amassing obscene amounts of it, Mr. Jackson is a hero and idol of our young people.

Imagine, a whole world full of Michael Jackson wannabes, most of whom are willing to overlook his heinous behaviors because, after all, he's a big *star* with a 2,800 acre ranch and lots and lots of money.

Talk about messed up priorities! [Mad]

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I'm thinking that Jacko will get Johnnie Cochran to invoke the Chewbacca Defense...

Failing that, if he's convicted, I'd recommend that he serve his time in a psychiatric hospital. The man^H^H^Hwoman^H^H^H^H^Hwhatever the hell Jacko is obviously has some issues that need resolving.

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Icon 1 posted March 03, 2005 19:03      Profile for Serenak     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
This is a hard one to call

If Jacko did as accused then then he is a perv of the worst sort and should be locked away...

But in his defense, he would be an easy target for money grabbing litigation...

Due process of law I guess... Is he a perv? Or is he being blackmailed? His previous paying off of an earlier accuser can't look good... But the man/woman/doll's weird life and desire to f**k up his own appearance isn't a relevant point...

If he genuinely slept with a young boy but only in a "Peter Pan" "Milk and Cookies" context then he is no more guilty than me, Cap'n Vic, Ronwhyyn, csk, etc. and despite maybe needing psychiatric help regarding his inability to "grow up" is just a sad person who has never been able to face up to reality....

Alternatively he is a rich and powerful celebrity who has leveraged that position to have access to young children whom he can then corrupt/exploit through alcohol, pr0n and money to abuse and exploit - in which case he is evil (or menatlly abberant) and need to be punished (or at least treated as dangerous)

I can't really decide... But isn't that what "trial by your peers" is for?

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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2005 12:58      Profile for MTB Babe   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Wasn't he accused and acquitted before?
I think he has less support now than he ever has, and will probably be tossed in the pen. [Geek]

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quote:
Originally posted by MTB Babe:
I think he has less support now than he ever has, and will probably be tossed in the pen.

Indeed.

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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2005 22:28      Profile for ewomack   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The previous case was settled out of court (with a payout in the multi-millions). So "acquitted" isn't really the right word. But he wasn't indicted. And that previous payout (was it in 1993?) probably represents the most damning evidence against his character. If the accusers didn't have SOMETHING big that time, doubtless the payout wouldnt've happened. People aren't in the habit of paying out good money for flimsy evidence.

Whether or not he goes to prison, his story will always be a sad one. Like other self-destructive celebrities (Elvis and, according to Arthur Miller, Marilyn Monroe) his story will ultimately be read as a tragedy for himself and those who came in contact with him. Yet another symbol of what an unbridled lust for fame can do to a person.

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Icon 1 posted March 04, 2005 22:43      Profile for csk     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by ewomack:
The previous case was settled out of court (with a payout in the multi-millions). So "acquitted" isn't really the right word. But he wasn't indicted. And that previous payout (was it in 1993?) probably represents the most damning evidence against his character. If the accusers didn't have SOMETHING big that time, doubtless the payout wouldnt've happened. People aren't in the habit of paying out good money for flimsy evidence.

I don't understand the mindset of the people that accused him in that case. If you believe that your child was sexually molested by someone, would you take a financial payment and drop the case, or would you take it to court and try and get that someone in jail? I can't comprehend that someone would chose option A.

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Icon 1 posted March 05, 2005 08:13      Profile for TMBWITW,PB     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Probably what was going through everyone's head was this:

Jackson & co., we don't to go through a long, drawn out trial that will damage our reputation and not go away ever.

Parents of kid, we don't have enough evidence to convict so we'll take the money and hope punitive damages are enough to keep it from happening again.

Assuming of course, that the parents actually did believe their child had been molested. Otherwise they were probably thinking that they had enough evidence to make it embarrasing for him and wanted a cash payout.

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I still think it could go either way.

My biggest question is what he will do when it is over IF he is acquitted. Will he still have some more sleep overs a few months down the road or even a year from now? eewwwww

Seriously what is going to stop him from continuing this craziness? I just can't wait to see what happens. Unfortunate for the prosecution, the witnesses keep having holes punched due to past lies and holes in stories. *shrugs* oh well...

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quote:
Originally posted by Destiny Eternity:
...My biggest question is what he will do when it is over IF he is acquitted...

Maybe he'll go golfing with O.J. and then have a sleep over with him.

That way they can compare notes.

[Roll Eyes]

In all seriousness, let's hope he is not aquitted.

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I hope that he doesn't get put into jail. You know, the whole "learned a lesson" philosophy.

Lesson 1: Do not have sex with a child.

Lesson 2: Do not let your children sleep over with a grown man, no matter how famous he is.

Lesson 3: It is probably not a good idea to pay someone millions to shut up.

Lesson 4: Do not hang a baby out of a balcony where a reporter can see you.

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Michael Jackson Is Dead [Big Grin]
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The paying out of the young child from '93 could work in Wacko Jacko's favour though, citing it as a cash grab for this new family who's hoping to be settled out of court in an effort to make some money.

I think he did it. That boy's all screwy.

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quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Michael Jackson Is Dead [Big Grin]

I wish!
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quote:
Originally posted by GMx:
Michael Jackson Is Dead [Big Grin]

Netcraft confirms it!

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Yeah, I'm with csk... Just because MJ quote-bought off-unquote the previous accusers, doesn't mean that he's guilty. It just means he didn't want a trial. Which is fair enough, this trial is going to put him further into debt than that out-of-court settlement did.

Indeed, if he was really guilty (as opposed to some people thinking they could make a quick buck), I cannot imagine they would accept an out-of-court settlement... They would have at least *tried* to jail him.

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While down visiting family this weekend, I happened to pass by "The Courthouse" in Santa Maria on the way to the public pool to do some laps with my younger brother. What a circus. Fences and barricades all over the place, and a lineup of news-vans in the parking lot. Good thing it was Saturday.

I'm just getting sick of being assaulted with every detail of the case. I've been turning on the local news in the morning when getting ready for work, and they have to break every single day just to show Jackson arriving at the courthouse "live". I have to switch to East-coast news to avoid it. [ohwell]

Additionally, my brother told me he recently ran into a couple from the UK on vacation in the area for the trial. (at least we Americans don't have the monopoly on this idiotic obsession) [shake head]

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quote:
Originally posted by Sxeptomaniac:
my brother told me he recently ran into a couple from the UK on vacation in the area for the trial. (at least we Americans don't have the monopoly on this idiotic obsession) [shake head]

Ah, but idiotic obsessions are a cherished English tradition.
After all, they are the people who coined the phrase "sad git".

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