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Snaggy

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Icon 9 posted September 26, 2004 21:27      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
This is, imho, pretty sick.

A fistula is a man-made surgical opening in the side of a cow that is covered with a round piece of clear plastic. The fistula allows students to insert their hands and other foreign materials into the cow's rumen to study the digestive/ruminating process.

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Interesting, here's a view of someone who doesn't mind fistulations of cows...

Not surprisingly, some people object to the idea of holes being cut into the sides of cows, so I’m here to dispel some myths.  First it does not hurt: their pain receptors are primarily in the skin, so once the incision is made, there is no more discomfort, and of course the surgery is performed under anesthesia.  Second, it extends the life of the cow: most production dairy cows are sent to slaughter by 4 or 5 years in the US, while these fistulated cows are essentially allowed to live out their lives in a cushy vet teaching hospital, and often make it to 10 years.  They will never be slaughtered because they’re more valuable with the fistula in than as a dairy cow.  Once they are too old, or sick, they are euthanized and most of the time end up as a specimen in an anatomy lab to continue their careers as teaching instruments.  And I can speak from experience that they are treated with respect.  The cow I had my hand in today did not seem to have any problem with the students coming in and feeling her rumen, and there were a lot of students. 

Ok, right. [shake head]

Another view, disagreeing.


I'm really glad I gave up meat a long long time ago, on a farm far far away.

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Icon 1 posted September 26, 2004 22:03      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hmm, it's 0600 in England right now - I almost fear what will come to be in another few hours [Wink] .

/me refrains from making any jokes this matter...

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Icon 1 posted September 27, 2004 03:22      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I think it was this film which had a scene where there was a human who'd had the same thing done to him, as a result of an accident. Robert Downey Jr's character (a doctor) takes the cover off, and holds the mans beating heart in his hand.

Grossed me out.

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quote:
Originally posted by dragonman97:
Hmm, it's 0600 in England right now - I almost fear what will come to be in another few hours [Wink] .

/me refrains from making any jokes this matter...

mwahahahaha! we have caught up now! Unfortunately Spungo seems to be taking time off from posting here (or I am missing all his posts) so I will try to fill the void as it were (budumtsh,I'm here all week)

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Fistulating isn't all that impressive. Chicks do it in movies all the time to eachother. [crazy]
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The university where I attended Governor's School for the Agricultural Sciences boasted a few fistulated cows. We scholars donned gloves and inserted our hands into the stomachs (rumen, I think) "just for fun," but the researchers suppervising the cows actually do it for a variety of reasons. The easy access to the cows' stomachs gave them the chance to study capacity, pH, microbial activity, and even remove the stomach contents, study them, then replace them in the respective cow. Researchers are able to create better (more nutritious and healthy) food for cows this way. They're also able to test a plethora of other things that impact cows' and even humans' health.

The fistulae had a rubber ring that kept the hole in place (kinda like some earrings nowadays, but that's another story!) and a tight-fighting, sanitary rubber plug to keep the stomach protected from outside air and contaminants.

Probably shouldn't tell y'all that we performed rectal palpations at Govvie's school, either? Or watched a bull sperm donor (for In vitro fertilization) mount another bull used as the "teaser" animal? (Female cows are too fragile to use as teasers so they use the stronger bulls.)

Thoroughly grossed out yet? [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Fistulating isn't all that impressive. Chicks do it in movies all the time to eachother. [crazy]

Chicks? I didn't know you had such a penchant for poultry porn.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
quote:
Originally posted by drunkennewfiemidget:
Fistulating isn't all that impressive. Chicks do it in movies all the time to eachother. [crazy]

Chicks? I didn't know you had such a penchant for poultry porn.
What can I say, watching chicks get it on with other chicks just gets my gaggle going.
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You're a quack.

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Icon 2 posted October 22, 2004 09:36      Profile for klynn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Groan...

::throwing candy corn at DNF and Cap'n:: (well, it is almost Halloween after all...yummy corniness for everyone!)

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Icon 1 posted October 22, 2004 09:40      Profile for spungo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Yup. I'm afraid bad puns are an affliction of this place... it's best not to gander at it.

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quote:
Originally posted by spungo:
Yup. I'm afraid bad puns are an affliction of this place... it's best not to gander at it.

It's a mallardy we can never quite cure.

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Icon 1 posted October 22, 2004 12:30      Profile for CommanderShroom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
And don't get your feathers in a ruffle over some of the puns here, they can get quite fowl.

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As long as we all take a tern otherwise it can get nesty.


/me hangs head in shame for such a poor effort

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quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
As long as we all take a tern otherwise it can get nesty.


/me hangs head in shame for such a poor effort

You deserve to be ostrich-sized for such a bad pun.

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There is egg all over my face

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I definitely won't be emu-lating your behaviour.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cap'n Vic:
As long as we all take a tern otherwise it can get nesty.


/me hangs head in shame for such a poor effort

Yeah, otherwise we'd not have fair game.

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