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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2014 09:03      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Re-purpose that old Dish, Some of you may have an old DirecTV or Dish Network Dish no longer in use. Or you may see one at a rummage sale.

I get my Internet Via a Cell phone Contract into a special Cell-Phone that is also a WiFi router. We live just out side the good coverage area our signal is marginal at best. I saw an old Dish set out for the trash pickup, so I did. We get our TV via one of these dishes so I had some familiarity with how they worked.

So I rubber banded the special receiver to the horn on the dish, and slowly scanned the direction to the tower. WOW what an increase. the signal indicator went from one Bar to full. I changed modes and fine tuned to get the best over all performance. FIVE BARS on 4GLTE that is a lot better than two bars on 1X.

Okay I had to go to Speed Test

Ping=42 ms
Download=5.5Mbps
Upload=5.5Mbps

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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2014 14:09      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
cool!

I have one of those giant original aluminum satellite dishes, from a previous owner, if you need it. [Big Grin]

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TheMoMan
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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2014 19:49      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Snaggy I do not need that much gain, however if you took it apart and then went to a metal recycler it would probably be worth your effort.

I have two of the big ones one a four footer and a six footer. The six footer is going to be re-purposed into a Sat tracker once I get the servo amps working correctly.

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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2014 22:07      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well done MoMan.
While a home-brew rig made of chewing gum and coffee cans would have earned more Geek Points, yours is probably much more practical.
Now, got any ideas on an antenna that will pull in a Digital TV signal through the tangle of new tall buildings that are blocking my line of sight to the mountain where the transmitters are located?

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2014 09:11      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
TFD are there any buildings on past you that could be used as reflectors? Have you considered an amplifier?

Any good lawyers that would take your case as a class action against the building owners.

Last idea a really tall tower, billed back to the owners of the obstruction.

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Methinks the last idea would be nixed by NIMBY-ism. I'm sure the owners just expect everyone to pay for cable. [Razz]

Similarly, I feel pretty bad for some folks who live on the West Side, who previously had unobstructed views of the Hudson in fairly short buildings, but who are now blocked by huge buildings recently erected in what used to be no-man's-land. :/

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Update on the re-purpose, Heat the enemy of electronics reared its ugly head. Now the unit did not let out it's smoke however it got warm enough to stop working. So with the magic smoke still inside the device, and after a reset I have it back inside the house in the shade where it is happy again, however I am not.

Next try is to put the Jetpack in front of a bigger dish in side a piece of PVC pipe with a cooling fan blowing air through the pipe.

Of course the problem happened during a down load of Android for X86. I thought that, that would be fun to play with.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheMoMan:
Update on the re-purpose, Heat the enemy of electronics reared its ugly head.

So, is the heat from the electronics, or have you put your delicate electronics at the focal point of a big solar collector?

If the latter, a cheap shade cloth from a garden supplies store should do the trick.

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Icon 1 posted June 03, 2014 08:01      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
TFD, I am going to suggest a little of both. The Dish its self was pointed almost due North in a very clear area of the yard. The JetPack was mounted where the LNBs would have been mounted. This made them subject to rain, So I covered the wall wart and the RX/TX Jetpack with a plastic zip lock bag. So when I could not get any data I went to investigate. The device was very warm to touch. I pulled the unit and its wall wart and brought them into the house popped them into the freezer for a quick cool down as I pounded my head about being so dumb.

I then removed the battery and did a reset button push and reassembled the device.

The idea to protect the device from rain removed all cooling air flow, Internal heat and solar were probably at fault.

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Icon 1 posted June 03, 2014 13:26      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
PS to the last post, I finally got the x86 Android ISO downloaded and burned a Live CD. The two computers I have tried the ISO in have both not booted to operate. So I may have a Coaster.

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Yikes, quick cool in the freezer for electronics could cause bigger problems if things contract at different rates.

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Icon 1 posted June 03, 2014 15:57      Profile for TheMoMan         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Uhg, at the point I put it in the freezer it was nonfunctional, so if bricked when would the damage have happened? I did not drop it into Liquid N2 just in to a freezer. I only wanted to take about forty degrees off.

I do have some ham friends that play with near space balloons their payloads have had the batteries freeze, and thaw upon decent, yes circuits in those devices have failed from extreme exposure. They often build circuits using the design called dead bug ugly, there is no circuit board.

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