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Ugh, MightyClub
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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2011 14:27      Profile for Ugh, MightyClub     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Just saw today that the feds are about to trial emergency alerts via text message in two cities: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/10/us/10safety.html?partner=rss&emc=rss. Complete with obligatory awful acronym.

To participate your cellphone must have a special chip. Brilliant, way to use existing technology!

Anyway, I bring this up because I remember the subject being broached a few weeks back when the tornados ripped through the southern US.

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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2011 16:44      Profile for dragonman97   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
That's pure nonsense. The towers know where I am, and my number. Pretty much every cell phone/mobile can receive a text message. (Even my way old AT&T TDMA Ericsson phone back in 2000 could only receive messages.) So long as I won't be billed for it (VZW gouges me), I'm all for legitimate, non-spammy messages in emergency situations (such as serious weather situations or genuine nat'l sec. matters).

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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2011 17:05      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
It requires a 'special chip'?

WTF???

The system here just uses the location info the phone system already keeps (as Dman alluded to) combned with a database of customers and addresses.

The database is used to send alerts to everyone whose address is in the relevant area (even if they're not home at the time), and the dynamic location info is used to send alerts to anyone else who just happens to be passing through.

No special chips, no phone software upgrades, and no playing the frakkin' national anthem when there's a message from the Prime Minister.

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2011 04:48      Profile for Ugh, MightyClub     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well, in their defense, there was some mention of having the message pop up and possibly make noise regardless of your general alert settings. But you could probably handle that with software/firmware, too.

I'm glad they're finally doing this, but the caveats are pretty ridiculous.

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Requiring a new chip is also a great way to obsolete existing cell phones and drive the a market for new equipment. Cell providers are going to love this.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ugh, MightyClub:
Well, in their defense, there was some mention of having the message pop up and possibly make noise regardless of your general alert settings. But you could probably handle that with software/firmware, too.

I'm glad they're finally doing this, but the caveats are pretty ridiculous.

Yeah...it's /probably/ something with TPM to make sure it's legit and to act accordingly (like you said), but FFS, there's no reason not to send 'the rest of us' a "TURN YOUR RADIO ON" message, lest someone doubt the provenance of the message.

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Ugh, MightyClub
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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2011 13:36      Profile for Ugh, MightyClub     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by GrumpySteen:
Requiring a new chip is also a great way to obsolete existing cell phones and drive the a market for new equipment. Cell providers are going to love this.

Yup, and I'm sure no one from the cellphone industry had anything to do with the suggestion that a new, special chip would improve the solution [Roll Eyes]

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