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The Famous Druid

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Icon 1 posted January 05, 2005 12:09      Profile for The Famous Druid     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
edge.org got 120 very clever people together, and asked them a question, What do you believe is true even though you cannot prove it?

Their answers range across a broad spectrum, from "I am convinced, but cannot prove, that time does not exist" to "Interspecies coevolution of languages on the Northwest Coast."

Thought provoking stuff.

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Mac D
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Icon 1 posted January 05, 2005 12:20      Profile for Mac D     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Stop, Your going to make my head hurt. [crazy]

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Icon 14 posted January 05, 2005 23:24      Profile for Snaggy   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
That was so cool, I believe I loved it.

Now to prove it. [Smile]

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neotatsu
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Icon 1 posted January 06, 2005 16:54      Profile for neotatsu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
What I believe is true, but cannot prove?

Hmm.. The only things that springs to mind, was brought to me care of Douglas Adams, and Kevin Smith.

First, holistics. The theory which states that, untill a phenomenon is observed, it dosn't exist... How would you know wether the cat in the box is dead or not untill you observe it? And how would you know it was there before you observed it? Perplexing, and quite fun to think about, really... I love Douglas Adams, comically and philosophically genius.

Second, belief, or ideas? In the movie Dogma, Kevin Smith puts forth the idea that "It's not *what* you believe, it's *that* you believe.." I thoroughly despise indoctrination of faith, though I don't condemn it. To each their own, as it's said... But, personally, I believe what I feel is true, and, as such, to me it is truth. What other people believe to be true may be true for them, but not to me.. In the end, unless there is concrete proof beyond a reasonable doubt, it's all a matter of opinion.

That being said, hearing what other people have to say on absolutely any subject intrigues me, so long as they aren't trying to force me to believe it.

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Rhonwyyn

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Icon 1 posted January 06, 2005 19:04      Profile for Rhonwyyn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Umm, Neo, hate to break it to you, but Erwin Schrodinger existed before Adams came on the scene. The concept of the cat in the box isn't a new idea from Adams. Schrodinger posited that if you put a cat into a box with a killing device activated by the decay of a radioactive particle, unless you look in the box you won't be able to know whether the cat is dead or alive. He applied that to particles: we can never know where they are, only where they have been or where they have gone because as one poet it put it, "The act of observing disturbs the observed."

I wonder what everything2.com has to say about Schrodinger's Cat Paradox?

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Icon 1 posted January 06, 2005 19:10      Profile for csk     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Rhonwyyn:
I wonder what everything2.com has to say about Schrodinger's Cat Paradox?

Quite a lot, actually.

And if the cat is on heat and making the experiment difficult, you might want to look here first (advice not for the squeamish)

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Rhonwyyn

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Icon 1 posted January 06, 2005 19:28      Profile for Rhonwyyn   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
My favorite explanation of Schrodinger's Cat Paradox. [Big Grin]

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neotatsu
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Icon 3 posted January 07, 2005 10:54      Profile for neotatsu     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Yes, I know it was not an idea created by Adams, but, it was one I hadn't studied before I read his works.... Plus, I've way too many things happening inside my head to try and take the time to look up the name of the physicist who did originally come up with the theory, as I promptly forget half the things I intend to do, and alot of those seem incredibly important, and thus, it's very frustrating.

For instance, right now I have no farkin clue what I was about to do, but am intensly aware of the fact that I just spent the last hour and a half thinking about how to go about it, and waiting for the opportunity to get on the computer to do it... I have no BLOODY clue as to what it was, or how I decided to do it.

It's rather irritating... I rather wanna scream... Or jab a pen into someone or somethings eye socket, potentially even my own.. I assume that's abnormal.. Wanting to jab a pen into someone or something's eye socket that is.. I've been craving to do that particular activity for a couple days actually... In fact, I spent ten minutes before getting on the comp biting my tongue, and pulling my tongue ring with my teeth, intermitently punching the wall, in an effort to relieve some of my lability...

On a side note, labile is an incredibly spiffy word, that I think everyone should use alot more often. Just, be careful in how you use it around someone who is, in fact, labile [Razz]

*laughing at the memory of the lady in the hospital yelling and throwing things when someone called her that* [crazy] [crazy]

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